BottledDog Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 We haven't beaten any of the six around or above us. We lack any capable fit centerback cover or striker cover you'd have confidence in scoring regularly. You support Chelsea? Just the facts ma'am. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I was actually alluding to the fact that you could level either of those accusations/statements at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Comparing David Luiz/Alex/Ivanovic (whichever isn't playing) to James Perch is genuinely insulting, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Comparing David Luiz/Alex/Ivanovic (whichever isn't playing) to James Perch is genuinely insulting, imo. Well, you've picked their second, third and fourth centre backs and pitted them against our fifth choice (possibly sixth - if rumours re: Santon are to be believed!). That's by the by though. It's more about defending as a unit - even though their personnel on paper may be better than ours. They were absolutely diabolical (and I don't step on Hansen's toes lightly) when they had an injury or two at the back last season. Their first choice centre backs aren't too fantastic either anymore. It's not as big a mismatch as your quote intimates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I pciekd out fit centrebacks who can currently come in and cover (as you had mentioned). Our third choice is James Perch (currently). Theirs is one of those three. They have much better depth than us at all positions. Every single position. However, their side is in disarray and chaos, and results reflect that. I am not initimating that they are playing well as a team ( or that NUFC aren't), I was just refuting the idea that our depth is comparable to the teams around us in the table. They have internationals to cover for very position, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 I pciekd out fit centrebacks who can currently come in and cover (as you had mentioned). Our third choice is James Perch (currently). Theirs is one of those three. They have much better depth than us at all positions. Every single position. However, their side is in disarray and chaos, and results reflect that. I am not initimating that they are playing well as a team ( or that NUFC aren't), I was just refuting the idea that our depth is comparable to the teams around us in the table. They have internationals to cover for very position, ffs. I don't think anyone in their right mind would compare our squad to Chelsea, Man city, Man Utd or Spurs, or claim it would be good enough to cope with European as well as domestic competition. It's probably as good as any other team's squad who are not currently playing in Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Snrub Posted November 28, 2011 Share Posted November 28, 2011 Ivanovic is one of the best RB's in the league, probably second behind Sagna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 I pciekd out fit centrebacks who can currently come in and cover (as you had mentioned). Our third choice is James Perch (currently). Theirs is one of those three. They have much better depth than us at all positions. Every single position. However, their side is in disarray and chaos, and results reflect that. I am not initimating that they are playing well as a team ( or that NUFC aren't), I was just refuting the idea that our depth is comparable to the teams around us in the table. They have internationals to cover for very position, ffs. I don't think anyone in their right mind would compare our squad to Chelsea, Man city, Man Utd or Spurs, or claim it would be good enough to cope with European as well as domestic competition. It's probably as good as any other team's squad who are not currently playing in Europe. James Perch is our third-choice CB at the moment, but that's because we already have two CBs injured (Kadar and Williamson). You could argue it would be very unlucky to have 3 or 4 CBs injured at the same time, and that we could never have a squad good enough to handle that unless we were regularly in the top 4/5. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ivanovic is one of the best RB's in the league, probably second behind Sagna. I'd say Richards is up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bealios Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Slightly off topic, but it is worth mentioning that Alan Smith's contract expiry in June will free up wages for at least 4 "squad" players. I know this ignores transfer fees, but the way that the current regime is operating, I can't see significant transfer fees being expended to boost the squad in any event - it will be overall wages that will determine the size of our playing squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 they'll probably just count it as a reduction in the squad wage bill without the "need" to use the wages he'd freed up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Ivanovic is one of the best RB's in the league, probably second behind Sagna. I'd say Richards is up there. Aye, well he's certainly the best English RB at this point in time imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 The fact that Richards isn't starting at RB for England is insane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sifu Posted November 29, 2011 Share Posted November 29, 2011 Yeah, crazy stuff. Capello is an idiot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not many teams will play these three and hit the woodwork 4 times, have one knocked off the line, and have 3-4 genuine good chances in each of them. Plenty of positives to go forward into these next 4 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not a myth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoranBadlund Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Not many teams will play these three and hit the woodwork 4 times, have one knocked off the line, and have 3-4 genuine good chances in each of them. Plenty of positives to go forward into these next 4 games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 This thread was ridiculous from the off. We'd only lost two first teamers and one of them was fucking Obertan. Defence was always going to be the main problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 We are a central defender and a left back short, otherwise we are probably well enough covered in other areas. A striker would be nice as well though. We are going to miss Ba if he gets injured judging from that display today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 We're 2 or 3 players short, everybody knew this before the season started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eric Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Tempted fate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 cant believe benwell lad's ruined our season ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colocho Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Myth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wally_McFool Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 We haven't beaten any of the six around or above us. We haven't been beaten by anyone below sixth either - (yet. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 cant believe benwell lad's ruined our season ffs Aye, it has somewhat taken a turn for the worse over the weekend Having all 3 senior central defenders knackered is pretty calamatous and I reckon Saturday's referee has a lot to answer for rather than just fate. I will stick by the original point that although no where near a champions league squad we did start the season with as much quality in reserve as any other non-European side and as much as we had in our better teams of years gone by - which was the point, I certainly wasn't saying that we could breeze through a period without our 3 senior centre halfs. Anyway the misfortune we have suffered gives the wrist slitters an opportunity to get back on the board for a bit of long overdue moaning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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