Likelylad Posted yesterday at 13:04 Share Posted yesterday at 13:04 11 hours ago, wormy said: The studs on the ankle seems to be what's being ignored by most. I laughed when I saw the decision from the ref's angle. Then I saw the studs on the ankle. At regular speed it doesn't look too bad. And it's still probably harsh relative to most in-game decisions. But that then speaks to the terrible inconsistency of refereeing decisions. Under the laws of the game, it's probably a red. But we'll probably see multiple worse challenges tomorrow that get a yellow or less. Always happy to see an Arsenal persecution complex, though. He seems a good bloke but Ian Wright is all in on that persecution complex along with fans and their manager. All absolutely Insufferable when it comes to poor Arsenal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JLC Posted yesterday at 14:02 Share Posted yesterday at 14:02 He comes across as such a lovely bloke, Ian Wright. But is blind when it comes to Arsenal opinions. Can't detach his emotion, which I get. I'm probably in the minority but when I saw the incident for the first time, I couldn't believe the massive brouhaha that had been created around it. Red for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUFCDoog Posted yesterday at 14:08 Share Posted yesterday at 14:08 Even worse decision made up north in the Rangers game so it's not just here; this one was a lot worse as he even used VAR for about 3 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted yesterday at 14:14 Share Posted yesterday at 14:14 (edited) 6 minutes ago, NUFCDoog said: Even worse decision made up north in the Rangers game so it's not just here; this one was a lot worse as he even used VAR for about 3 minutes. Mental decision but, like Arsenal, it's Rangers so 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Edited yesterday at 14:15 by Groundhog63 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted yesterday at 14:21 Share Posted yesterday at 14:21 I think a factor that made it a red was that it wasn't a genuine attempt for the ball. Effectively, the stamp was not entirely accidental. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted yesterday at 14:31 Share Posted yesterday at 14:31 If that was given against us we would all be demanding an apology and no ban etc. What I found interesting is how quickly Oliver whipped out the red - he didn’t deliberate or take any advice, which supports the violent conduct interpretation. Even though I don’t think it is a red, I am fully behind the potential for it to make teams stop cynically ending counter-attacks that way. It’s cheating but is has become good strategy; it shouldn’t be rewarded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy84 Posted yesterday at 14:33 Share Posted yesterday at 14:33 The outrage about this today Expecting a statement in parliament tomorrow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted yesterday at 14:39 Share Posted yesterday at 14:39 3 minutes ago, Andy84 said: The outrage about this today Expecting a statement in parliament tomorrow "Government to invest £Bs in the Emirates regeneration area as part of their "Levelling Up the North" agenda" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boey_Jarton Posted yesterday at 14:46 Share Posted yesterday at 14:46 Arteta has created this. Similar to Klopp, if a ref makes a borderline decision against his team it's the top sports news story for the next week. It's all intended to pressurise refs from making calls against them in future, whilst often distracting from a poor performance or defeat. From memory, I cannot remember Howe ever going down this route, which he deserves great credit for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 16 minutes ago, SteV said: Let’s just start deducting points from the teams who’s fans keep doing this then. Oh wait, it’s Arsenal and Liverpool fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Inevitable and totally unsurprising that it’s gone too far. Toothpaste won’t go back in the tube either. Media is absolutely reliant on it and VAR has massively aided this speed up in direction too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Stifler said: Let’s just start deducting points from the teams who’s fans keep doing this then. Oh wait, it’s Arsenal and Liverpool fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) Thought it was really good refereeing from Oliver, he saw something that many people miss even after the replays. It's few different orange cards in any case (studs on the shin, no attempt to play the ball and denying an opportunity to score even if it's too far away from their goal) so think red is perfectly fine. Mad how there's any controversy, Arsenal fans are the absolute worst which is some going considering Liverpool fans also exist. Edited 21 hours ago by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 21 minutes ago, SteV said: Maybe the media needs to take a little responsibility and stop describing every decision they don't agree with as the worst decision they've ever seen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago (edited) Media will wring their hands at this but they’re as to blame as those that sent the threats for perpetuating it. I’m old enough to remember them hounding Anders Frisk’s family after that Chelsea/Barcelona game. Edited 21 hours ago by Sima Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: Whats funny? They were doing it a little while back with that goal that was disallowed vs Spurs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Whats funny? They were doing it a little while back with that goal that was disallowed vs Spurs. Just how what's happened has nothing to do with Liverpool but it didn't stop you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: Just how what's happened has nothing to do with Liverpool but it didn't stop you. I don’t get it? Referees are increasingly seeing abuse aimed at them, and lately it’s largely been from the same clubs. The issue isn’t just over yesterday’s game, but over a growing trend. The only way you are going to stop it is by addressing the issue, and that ultimately has to go down to points deduction. You can’t just single out Arsenal fans when Liverpool fans are still abusing a referee from last year, and are actually online at the moment encouraging Arsenal fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Stifler said: I don’t get it? Referees are increasingly seeing abuse aimed at them, and lately it’s largely been from the same clubs. The issue isn’t just over yesterday’s game, but over a growing trend. The only way you are going to stop it is by addressing the issue, and that ultimately has to go down to points deduction. You can’t just single out Arsenal fans when Liverpool fans are still abusing a referee from last year, and are actually online at the moment encouraging Arsenal fans. Not gonna get all generic about Scousers but some of those that are still rattling on about refereeing decisions were egged on by Klopp, tbf Also, see Legoheed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Probably the first Arsenal outrage that I have some sympathy for, I didn’t think it was a red, though some angles I’ve seen since make an argument for it. It’s so tiring how every decision against them has to have an inquiry though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago Just now, Groundhog63 said: Not gonna get all generic about Scousers but some of those that are still rattling on about refereeing decisions were egged on by Klopp, tbf Also, see Legoheed Aye, I’ve already made various posts about how we will look back at his time in English football with a negative view for all the shit he’s left lying around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Kimbo said: Probably the first Arsenal outrage that I have some sympathy for, I didn’t think it was a red, though some angles I’ve seen since make an argument for it. It’s so tiring how every decision against them has to have an inquiry though. It’s all so they get the favourable decisions in future, too. It was that cunt Klopp’s endgame at Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Stifler said: I don’t get it? Referees are increasingly seeing abuse aimed at them, and lately it’s largely been from the same clubs. The issue isn’t just over yesterday’s game, but over a growing trend. The only way you are going to stop it is by addressing the issue, and that ultimately has to go down to points deduction. You can’t just single out Arsenal fans when Liverpool fans are still abusing a referee from last year, and are actually online at the moment encouraging Arsenal fans. Okay so It's a wider problem but you only bring up Liverpool. It's just funny, that's all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago I saw this finally and was wondering what I missed. Glad to come on here and people agree. It's a red for me and I feel bad for the referee getting dog's abuse from all corners for it. Media mostly/all to blame here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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