ChrisMcQuillan Posted Tuesday at 08:22 Share Posted Tuesday at 08:22 1 hour ago, Fak said: Which one was ours Coloccini getting sent off despite not touching Suarez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 09:11 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:11 (edited) You only have to look back as far as this season to see a worse red card decision. If it is club specific. Then it's the Schar red card. Especially if I read it right that the appeals panel is made up of ex-pros? All this talk about malice, intent, endangering an opponent,, excessive force etc. Which one is worse out of the Lewis-Skelly challenge and the Schar one? One is a blatant trip with the ball nowhere near and he has ended up studding him in the leg and down onto his ankle/achilles. The other is a fairly common 'U WOT M8?!' face to face that you get in football every other week. Stupid from Schar to get involved, but even so. Schar's didn't get rescinded. But I'm assuming this one will be. Due to all the hyperbole around it online and all the usual talking heads coming out with outrageous shite like 'it's the worst decision in the Premier League's history' or words to that effect. Fuck me Shearer is a dullard as a pundit. Edited Tuesday at 09:11 by Lush Vlad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tisd09 Posted Tuesday at 09:16 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:16 Ultimately I think it's a yellow but far from the worst decision ever. As mentioned there was no clamour to overturn Schar's card yet the damage from MLS would have been worse. I thought the PGMOL had already backed the decision or am I imagining things. I think given the fuss over it, them backing down now won't look great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted Tuesday at 09:18 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:18 Just now, Tisd09 said: Ultimately I think it's a yellow but far from the worst decision ever. As mentioned there was no clamour to overturn Schar's card yet the damage from MLS would have been worse. I thought the PGMOL had already backed the decision or am I imagining things. I think given the fuss over it, them backing down now won't look great. They have. But apparently if they appeal, it then goes to said panel of ex-pros. I'm sure I read that this morning when I was skimming an article on it. So PGMOL can stand by their man and their decision. But it can still get rescinded on appeal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Tuesday at 09:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:21 The panel is a mice of ex-pro’s and referees though, isn’t it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 09:44 Share Posted Tuesday at 09:44 (edited) They need to create a team of VAR officials that is separate from the on-field refs IMO, and break the assumption that they are there to support the referee. They should be there to spot things the ref has missed and correct mistakes. Things like this clear and obvious thing shouldn’t exist. Look at the video, decide what the right decision is, advise the referee. Should be normalised for the referee to ask for input as well, like in rugby. He should be able to stop the game and say ‘I’m not sure what happened there, please let me know’. Or something like that. Some random ideas but I think VAR is not as good as it should be because it’s operating under these weird conventions of authority and personal relationships. Edited Tuesday at 09:45 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted Tuesday at 10:13 Share Posted Tuesday at 10:13 10 hours ago, alexf said: Heard Micah Richards (known Arsenal fan) earlier on the podcast he does with Lineker and Shearer, literally call it the worst decision in the history of the premier league. Was probably recorded before the Oliver getting abuse news surfaced so he will likely try and walk it back to save face but how absurd and sensationalist is that. Probably wasn't even the most controversial this week across the country. Yeah, watching various shows and fan channels and the reaction has wound me up You've got Arsenal fans saying they never want him to referee their games again, which if they end up getting their way is a far worse decision than to send him off Also the tackle is being massively misrepresented, I'm hearing more about lack of intent and it being a trip and not enough about it being studs on calf/shin and then raked down to his ankle Again, if someone wants to say it's a yellow I have no issue with that but I definitely take issue calling it a scandalous and never a red in a million years etc etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted Tuesday at 11:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 11:32 The whole messaging that Lewis-Skelly is the victim after he deliberately went to foul an opposing player is a pretty damning indictment of where we are with football nowadays. Fine to essentially cheat but heaven forbid the refs potentially getting a decision wrong!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted Tuesday at 12:23 Share Posted Tuesday at 12:23 50 minutes ago, Hhtoon said: The whole messaging that Lewis-Skelly is the victim after he deliberately went to foul an opposing player is a pretty damning indictment of where we are with football nowadays. Fine to essentially cheat but heaven forbid the refs potentially getting a decision wrong!! Was the same with David Coote. Okay for Andy Robertson and Klopp to scream abuse in his face because they perceive he has got a decision wrong but heaven forbid he (rightly) calls Klopp a cunt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted Tuesday at 17:52 Share Posted Tuesday at 17:52 9 hours ago, joeyt said: Just find the whole David Coote situation really sad Ruined his career after someone leaked a video of him at a party years ago, a drug problem and having to hide his sexuality due to fear of abuse. And now probably having to sell his story to the Sun to make up for some lost income. Hope he can move forward with it all now Aye I feel bad for the bloke (with the caveat that I revoke that if it turns out he's been a bit too dodgy in the DMs at any point, I think there were some rumours when it all broke) It should be obvious enough that there were mental health issues there from the very fact that his decision making led him to record videos that could jeopardise his job, as well as snorting coke before games. Those are not generally the actions of someone who is thinking soundly. We tend to hold refs to the same standards as police officers or something. They're just blokes flashing brightly coloured cards at other blokes kicking a ball at the end of the day, regardless of what we as fans think is at stake. Aye there's some professionalism required, but I personally don't think the coke or Klopp comments warrant the massive outrage and explosive coverage that this received. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted Tuesday at 18:01 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:01 18 hours ago, alexf said: Heard Micah Richards (known Arsenal fan) earlier on the podcast he does with Lineker and Shearer, literally call it the worst decision in the history of the premier league. Was probably recorded before the Oliver getting abuse news surfaced so he will likely try and walk it back to save face but how absurd and sensationalist is that. Probably wasn't even the most controversial this week across the country. Yep, 'worst decision in the history of the Premier League' is just a hyperbolic absolute pathetic nonsense. I like Micah as well, but that statement is just utter bilge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted Tuesday at 18:16 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:16 Overturned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginola14 Posted Tuesday at 18:19 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:19 wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted Tuesday at 18:21 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:21 So his 3 match ban has been scrapped. Makes a mockery of both the Premier League, and PGMOL both saying it was the correct call. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted Tuesday at 18:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:24 Like I said, their abuse is now vindicated and they’ve been enabled to do exactly the same next time they feel they’ve been “wronged”. Which won’t be long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted Tuesday at 18:24 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:24 Surprised it has been overturned. I thought it was the wrong decision, but it wasn't outrageous and I don't think it was wrong enough to get overturned if that makes sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiesteve710 Posted Tuesday at 18:25 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:25 Just now, Sima said: Like I said, their abuse is now vindicated and they’ve been enabled to do exactly the same next time they feel they’ve been “wronged”. Which won’t be long. Next team that gets a debatable red card knows the blueprint to follow now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted Tuesday at 18:27 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:27 I mean, the decision was clearly wrong so in that sense it’s correct to overturn it. But the discussion around it has been very unfortunate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted Tuesday at 18:30 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:30 I don’t think it was, it was a cynical attempt to stop the counter with excessive aggression regarding the studs on the calf. Arsenal are such spoilt wankers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEFAFWISP Posted Tuesday at 18:32 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:32 Awful but didn't expect anything else after Arteta's cowardice and Arse pundits acting like the Hand of God happened to a poor old 17 year old. Pathetic all round really even if it was at worst an orange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dembacha Posted Tuesday at 18:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:33 11 hours ago, Fak said: Which one was ours McWhatshisface on Haidara. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted Tuesday at 18:33 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:33 I don't think it was clearly wrong to be honest. It was as soft as they come, but it was still a poor challenge. I've seen worse given and stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dembacha Posted Tuesday at 18:35 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:35 3 minutes ago, Sima said: I don’t think it was, it was a cynical attempt to stop the counter with excessive aggression regarding the studs on the calf. Arsenal are such spoilt wankers. Aye. Remined me of the Allan (everton player) challenge on St Maximin a few years ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bimpy474 Posted Tuesday at 18:41 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:41 Ah well, at least it adds to my utter hatred of Septic Club Number 2. Classless, ignorant, arrogant, spoilt cunts who'll i'll never stop wanting to go extinct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted Tuesday at 18:45 Share Posted Tuesday at 18:45 Wouldn’t be at all surprised if the sun has more on Coote than has been released so far and he’s felt forced to do this interview. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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