Dogawful Officiating

[Kid Icarus]

Where do you all think Pawson ranks in the worst refs of all time? I swear I've only exclusively seen him have terrible games, can't stand him. Usually makes at least one massive and terrible decision per match, a lot of the smaller decisions are wrong, he takes forever to make them, he blows up for nothing one minute, plays on for a blatant free kick the next , gets in the way of play regularly and has an incredibly irritating manner about him. My heart sinks whenever he's reffing us or on VAR because you can bet he's going to ruin the match. 

 

 

Edited 10 hours ago by Kid Icarus

[Bimpy474]

He's terrible, up there with the worst that's for sure.

[Norseman]

He's just bad. I think the worst refs are the ones like pawson.

 

Total guesswork but, he probably thinks if he doesn’t make a big call in a game, he hasn’t done a good job. So he looks for opportunities to make one.

[midds]

Pawson is the cheapest refereeing slut out there, he blows for fucking anything he fancies. There's no consistency from minute to minute, he loves a collapse one minute and ignores it the next, he's like a Dungeons & Dragons 20-sided dice the utter fucking melt that he is

[SteV]

What is the actual point of referees going to the screen for VAR reviews?

 

As far as I’m aware, Oliver is the only ref who’s ever not changed his decision. So one non-change in what’s probably over 100 instances now.

 

Just get the VAR to tell the onfield ref to change his decision and get on with it.

[Kanj]

Pawson is horrendous.  

[Kanj]

Genuinely shocked seeing refs get conned by players hurling themselves to the ground. 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

VAR has actually made diving worse, because now you don’t need to get a pen from the referee in real time. You can just engineer a tiny bit of contact that can be seen on a replay.
 

It’s completely the opposite of what it should be for. 

[gbandit]

It’s been a disaster for football in my opinion. I’m happy with automated offsides and I think violent and reckless things that aren’t picked up by the ref on the field (e.g. VVD’s use of elbows) should be captured by VAR but they’re not. So what purpose is it serving? Giving us a load of contentious decisions that are just as contentious as they were before but taking ages to make a decision on. It’s utter shite 

[BlueStar]

One thing I just remembered from the Palace game, at the start we pushed forward and there was an absolutely clear offside, like miles off even with my black and white specs on.  Linesman didn't bother flagging, presumably cos VAR will check it if we score anyway. Then we get a corner from it.  Palace fans could be justifiably raging if we got a goal from that corner.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

5 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

One thing I just remembered from the Palace game, at the start we pushed forward and there was an absolutely clear offside, like miles off even with my black and white specs on.  Linesman didn't bother flagging, presumably cos VAR will check it if we score anyway. Then we get a corner from it.  Palace fans could be justifiably raging if we got a goal from that corner.

 

Yeah that happens all the time, an offside not given which then results in play continuing in whatever way.

 

I'm not sure if the offside rule was only intended to be used in the event of a goal, or if that's an unintended consequence of the way it works with VAR now. 

[Fak]

4 minutes ago, BlueStar said:

One thing I just remembered from the Palace game, at the start we pushed forward and there was an absolutely clear offside, like miles off even with my black and white specs on.  Linesman didn't bother flagging, presumably cos VAR will check it if we score anyway. Then we get a corner from it.  Palace fans could be justifiably raging if we got a goal from that corner.

 

If the lino thought he was offside he'd have flagged when the attack ended and the ball went out for a corner or goal kick. If he didn't flag then it'll be because he thought he was onside.

 

(I think)

[Yorkie]

1 hour ago, gbandit said:

It’s been a disaster for football in my opinion. I’m happy with automated offsides and I think violent and reckless things that aren’t picked up by the ref on the field (e.g. VVD’s use of elbows) should be captured by VAR but they’re not. So what purpose is it serving? Giving us a load of contentious decisions that are just as contentious as they were before but taking ages to make a decision on. It’s utter shite 

 

I can never get my head around this view... "VAR is shit but I don't mind the bit where it's a total fun sponge."

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I guess it’s how it’s applied. Automated offside can rule out goals in an annoying way, but at least it’s applying the actual rules and doesn’t depend so much on subjective judgement. I’d say it’s the lesser VAR evil, if we have to have VAR at all. 

 

 

Edited 11 minutes ago by AyeDubbleYoo

[gbandit]

5 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I can never get my head around this view... "VAR is shit but I don't mind the bit where it's a total fun sponge."

My lack of issue with them is that they’re immediate, or should be, and they do increase the accuracy of it. Think it’s very hard to argue against this aspect of it

[SteV]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

 

I can never get my head around this view... "VAR is shit but I don't mind the bit where it's a total fun sponge."

Tbf, if they used automated offsides properly and efficiently, it wouldn’t be so bad.

 

Like surely you can just press a button and it says yes or no within 5 seconds. Then the lino gets a buzz in his ear and puts his flag up. Not too much different to how it was, but (hopefully) significantly more accurate.

 

Aye, there’d be a few where it’d require interpretation, like was the player interfering, or has it been played by a defender etc, but we could live with them having to go back and revisit those ones.