localshop Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why does Pardew call him "Hatam" all the time? The French pronunciation. Oh, I thought it was pronounced "at-em". Did only take French GCSE tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 That was quite handy though because I couldn't remember the burst of pace from Anita that everyone was raving about. Looks a bit nippy! Nah he's from the Caribbean mate. Boom boom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why does Pardew call him "Hatam" all the time? The French pronunciation. Oh, I thought it was pronounced "at-em". Did only take French GCSE tbf. It would be closer to at-am from a French person, Pards is just having a stab at it. The end sound is actually pretty hard to do like a native speaker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why does Pardew call him "Hatam" all the time? The French pronunciation. Oh, I thought it was pronounced "at-em". Did only take French GCSE tbf. Correct. The way Pardew says it sounds a bit daft. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 He should be aiming at 12-15 goals this season and I think he's more than capable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why does Pardew call him "Hatam" all the time? The French pronunciation. it isn't. it's not even a French name Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why does Pardew call him "Hatam" all the time? The French pronunciation. Oh, I thought it was pronounced "at-em". Did only take French GCSE tbf. Correct. The way Pardew says it sounds a bit daft. Like how you mark his pronunciation of “at-em” with a 'correct' as if that was definitely right and Pards is daft. You would think you studied French language at university or at least lived in France for a duration of your life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Remember around 8-9 months ago people saying Pardew couldnt manage flair players? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Maybe HBA told him how his name is pronounced seeing as they, you know, work together daily... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 It's a Muslim name, I think. The H will not be silent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Why does Pardew call him "Hatam" all the time? The French pronunciation. Oh, I thought it was pronounced "at-em". Did only take French GCSE tbf. Correct. The way Pardew says it sounds a bit daft. Like how you mark his pronunciation of “at-em” with a 'correct' as if that was definitely right and Pards is daft. You would think you studied French language at university or at least lived in France for a duration of your life. As pointed out, it's not a French name, but Mr Ben Arfa himself pronounces it "at-em", which is good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Maybe HBA told him how his name is pronounced seeing as they, you know, work together daily... Exactly. If Pards was constantly fucking it up in interviews or in training then I'm sure HBA would have said something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiLvOR Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 HARVEY BEN ARTHUR. The great English prospect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaizero Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 I mate of mine is of Tunisian descent and his middle name is Hatem. I will endevour to find out how he pronounces it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Maybe HBA told him how his name is pronounced seeing as they, you know, work together daily... Exactly. If Pards was constantly fucking it up in interviews or in training then I'm sure HBA would have said something. Type in "Reportage Hatem Ben Arfa Stade 2 29-01-12" on Youtube. Not that it really matters. Not exactly a "Charles Insomnia" moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Listen to Cab's intro vid on his website. Cabs says Hatem in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Cabs says Hatem as it reads, H and an E as they look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Listen to Cab's intro vid on his website. Cabs says Hatem in that. Pards is obviously speaking with a different French accent to Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Listen to Cab's intro vid on his website. Cabs says Hatem in that. Pards is obviously speaking with a different French accent to Cabaye. Ahhh English French, Delboy Trotter style ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Spark Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Cabs says Hatem as it reads, H and an E as they look. Except he doesn't pronounce the H. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Cabs says Hatem as it reads, H and an E as they look. Except he doesn't pronounce the H. Just listened and i thought he did, defo sounded like Ha... rather than a...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Is he the single most gifted footballer to ever play for Newcastle? A better player than Shearer? A more talented player than Gazza? A better brain than Beardo? I know Ben Arfa could do with playing a full season before being mentioned among these players but does it really matter? O'Sullivan is considered the most naturally gifted snooker player, without winning every tournament? Just thought I'd open up a can of worms Peter Beardsley was twice the player Ben Arfa is and I love our Frenchman. Beardsley had it all. In many ways Ben Arfa, given his talent, should be up there as one of the best players in the world but he isn't and that is down to inconsistency and from what Pardew alluded to, perhaps a rather lacklustre approach to training. That and his attitude of course. He is 26 now and should be for France for example what Zidane was, their main man. That's the kind of talent he has. Back to Beardsley, he would be worth 30m or so today. Easily. Beardsley was an extremely hard working player in the mould of say Tevez or Rooney but he was immaculately discplined. He had amazing vision and his dribblibg, sorry but as good as Ben Arfa is, Beardsley was twinkle toes. He was genuinley two footed as well and could score all manner of goals from all over the park. He was an unselfish player too and a real team-player. People say Gazza is the best we have ever produced but do you know what, in terms of general all-round ability and being able to put it to full use, I don't think this region has produced anyone as food as Beardsley. If we had him today, he would make the difference between Europa and CL footy. Shearer was something else as a centre-forward and Gazza of course had it all as a footballer but lacked the mentality, professionalism and discipline that Shearer and Beardsley had. Mind... according to the auld cunts, both Tony Green and Len White were much better than Gazza, Beardsley, Shearer and of course, wor Hatem. Me... Beardsley is the best footballer I've seen in our colours by some distance, with Shearer the best all-rounder in terms of scoring goals, service, all-round team play and all-round game. Ben Arfa as good as he is, needs to up his game by another 30% to reach such heights in our shirt. He needs to do to Spurs and more every game, he has that capability but he is a 1 in 3 type of performer for me which is still good enough. That is why alas, he will never be considered a world-class player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 It's pronounced "Our Lord" haha LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 You've got to remember it wasn't really until around 86-87 when Beardsley really became recognised at international level where he was 25-26, which is how old HBA is now. Pedro was a late developer in that respect, it's frightening to think Ben Arfa could continue to improve further still. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted August 22, 2012 Share Posted August 22, 2012 Maybe HBA told him how his name is pronounced seeing as they, you know, work together daily... Exactly. If Pards was constantly fucking it up in interviews or in training then I'm sure HBA would have said something. Type in "Reportage Hatem Ben Arfa Stade 2 29-01-12" on Youtube. Not that it really matters. Not exactly a "Charles Insomnia" moment Yeah, most likely that there's more than one way to pronounce it. That or Hatem takes pity on Pards' inability to work around the cockney accent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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