Taylor Swift Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 What about Messi? He's more like Messi than Ronaldo. It's between him and van Persie for the best player in the league. Hazard will get there, and Cazorla is close, too. Yaya is a completely different player so I won't compare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I was talking about watch in a stadium, live. I've never watched Barcelona. I've seen Toure but I'd say Ben Arfa has comfortably more individual talent than him. Its Yaya Toures pace and power which is frightning. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I think Beardsley is the one to emulate, my Dad reckons no-one will ever beat Ginola in his eyes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 He's beaten ginola in mine, no question Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm a huge HBA fan (who isn't?) but you'd have to say he needs to weigh in with 12+goals for a couple of years and/or perform to consistently high standards for another 18 months or so to make NUFC legendary status. Pedro did it over 250 games for us. He delivered consistently, to a very high standard over many games. If HBA continues the way he's started his NUFC career then there's every chance he'll be up there. What a player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm a huge HBA fan (who isn't?) but you'd have to say he needs to weigh in with 12+goals for a couple of years and/or perform to consistently high standards for another 18 months or so to make NUFC legendary status. Pedro did it over 250 games for us. He delivered consistently, to a very high standard over many games. If HBA continues the way he's started his NUFC career then there's every chance he'll be up there. What a player. He also needs to play in the Masters (is it still going?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I'm a huge HBA fan (who isn't?) but you'd have to say he needs to weigh in with 12+goals for a couple of years and/or perform to consistently high standards for another 18 months or so to make NUFC legendary status. Pedro did it over 250 games for us. He delivered consistently, to a very high standard over many games. If HBA continues the way he's started his NUFC career then there's every chance he'll be up there. What a player. He also needs to play in the Masters (is it still going?) If its not, it'll be his job to resurrect it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's hard to remember Ginola now for me, but I absolutely worshipped the bloke as a kid, to the extent that I thought Beardsley to him was like Batty to Beardsley. Completely wrong of course, but he was the player I wanted to be. I was borderline depressed when Dalglish sold him and I hated Ketsbaia for a long time purely because he was number 14. Ben Arfa would be that player now, without question. Objectively, Ben Arfa is a better player than Ginola mind. Ben Arfa in the team that Ginola was in would be absolutely ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MW Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 there's a difference between best player and best player for us. i doubt he will be best player for us as i doubt he will stay as long as beardsley, but he can be the best player that we have had on our books, and I think he is overall, certainly in my time. unfortunately my awareness only began towards the end of beardsley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I might take Beye out of my XI and play a 3-4-3 actually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Pedro's still the best player I've seen due to the consistency he managed to put in for us. However I do actually think Ben Arfa is more talented than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 He's the most talented i have ever seen but as far as contribution goes he's not even close to the likes of Shearer and Beardsley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 The longer he remains under most people's radar the better. In terms of pure dribblers, I aint not never seen no one better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 wish I had a mate like Ben Arfa. Basically anything I didn't think I could do, I'd just give to him and let him do it with ease. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Not many like him around. The goal he scored against Bolton last season, I'm not sure if there are more than 2-3 players in the world capabel of doing that at the highest level. In the Premiership, maybe Hazard, maybe Nani on his day. In the rest of the world, Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar. Can't think of anyone else. And Catts of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Not many like him around. The goal he scored against Bolton last season, I'm not sure if there are more than 2-3 players in the world capabel of doing that at the highest level. In the Premiership, maybe Hazard, maybe Nani on his day. In the rest of the world, Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar. Can't think of anyone else. And Catts of course. Ronaldinho back in his day, who I think is quite similar to him. Ronny is a lot better of course, stronger, insanely skillful and smart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minhosa Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Not many like him around. The goal he scored against Bolton last season, I'm not sure if there are more than 2-3 players in the world capabel of doing that at the highest level. In the Premiership, maybe Hazard, maybe Nani on his day. In the rest of the world, Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar. Can't think of anyone else. And Catts of course. Or Dalian Atkinson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2011/11/26/article-2066482-00E4422C000004B0-884_468x327.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Any player can do it once in a lifetime. HBA did it twice in a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's hard to remember Ginola now for me, but I absolutely worshipped the bloke as a kid, to the extent that I thought Beardsley to him was like Batty to Beardsley. Completely wrong of course, but he was the player I wanted to be. I was borderline depressed when Dalglish sold him and I hated Ketsbaia for a long time purely because he was number 14. Ben Arfa would be that player now, without question. Objectively, Ben Arfa is a better player than Ginola mind. Ben Arfa in the team that Ginola was in would be absolutely ridiculous. We're ok now though, yeah? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's between him and van Persie for the best player in the league. Whoa now. I'm as big an HBA fan as the next ignorant American, but this is getting a bit ridiculous. You are completely discounting Jose Enrique in goal -- the man has a 100% clean sheet rate in all competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Quote from: Kid Icarus on Today at 11:37:37 AM It's hard to remember Ginola now for me, but I absolutely worshipped the bloke as a kid, to the extent that I thought Beardsley to him was like Batty to Beardsley. Completely wrong of course, but he was the player I wanted to be. I was borderline depressed when Dalglish sold him and I hated Ketsbaia for a long time purely because he was number 14. Ben Arfa would be that player now, without question. Objectively, Ben Arfa is a better player than Ginola mind. Ben Arfa in the team that Ginola was in would be absolutely ridiculous. We're ok now though, yeah? We've been okay since you kicked the billboards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Fancied a punt on him for PFA player of the Year, not even in the running: http://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/premier-league/pfa-player-of-the-year Some of the names you can bet on and HBA is not there Damien Duff 3 goals in 5. You'd be buying money. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamie McDonald Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I called he'd be an outstanding signing when he was in the French league. Glad Man Utd didn't get their hands on him! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I called he'd be an outstanding signing when he was in the French league. Glad Man Utd didn't get their hands on him! You've got a real eye for a player, mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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