Mattoon Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 He's priceless, to stick any amount on him is an insult. Surely Pardew would put up a fight for his "magic" man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 As ever, if someone puts up enough cash - Ashley will sell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Of course he has his price for Ashley, £20m would be a great profit for him. Footballing wise it makes no sense and I hope Ben Arfa wants to stay but anyone bids that much he'll probably be gone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7ql4rry4p1qermrvo1_500.jpg According to Dr. Pardew, this is where he's been at fitness wise for the last 6 months. The only club he could pass a medical at is ours so he's going nowhere Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ben Arfa isn't worth 20 million, maybe not even 10. He's had maybe half of a good season since the 2010 World Cup. This isn't any fault of his own, but it is the truth. Even before this, his 2010 Ligue 1 winning campaign with OM was fractured and featured many of the things that typified his time in France: Moments of brilliance, moments of childish nonsense, match-winning/saving performances, clashes with coaches and just people in general, managers unwilling to make him a first XI player. The next year was wasted by De Jong. He was brilliant from December on last season, but once again missed more matches than he played in 2013. We watch every match so we know the boy is special, but who else is paying for this? The only way he leaves this summer is if someone turns his head and the guy forces it through, like he has done at his first two clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Only 2 years left on his contract, so it'll be a nervous summer. If we decide to sell, we should get a lot of moolah for him. MUST keep him though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ben Arfa isn't worth 20 million, maybe not even 10. He's had maybe half of a good season since the 2010 World Cup. This isn't any fault of his own, but it is the truth. Even before this, his 2010 Ligue 1 winning campaign with OM was fractured and featured many of the things that typified his time in France: Moments of brilliance, moments of childish nonsense, match-winning/saving performances, clashes with coaches and just people in general, managers unwilling to make him a first XI player. The next year was wasted by De Jong. He was brilliant from December on last season, but once again missed more matches than he played in 2013. We watch every match so we know the boy is special, but who else is paying for this? The only way he leaves this summer is if someone turns his head and the guy forces it through, like he has done at his first two clubs. Agreed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenham Mag Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I rather keep him for the rest of his contract and try and get him to sign another one. I despise when fans say I'll take such and such for him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think he is a bit overrated on here http://i41.tinypic.com/2zxr3ma.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyPalAl Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Uh-oh. Run. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I thought Mike was on needlessly inflammatory post duty this month? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 So last summer we were asking £25m for all of players (another Pard quote) so we are now taking £5m off this price? £55m wiped off the value of our first 11! Even of a reason to sack him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 So last summer we were asking £25m for all of players (another Pard quote) so we are now taking £5m off this price? £55m wiped off the value of our first 11! £15m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Ben Arfa isn't worth 20 million, maybe not even 10. He's had maybe half of a good season since the 2010 World Cup. This isn't any fault of his own, but it is the truth. Even before this, his 2010 Ligue 1 winning campaign with OM was fractured and featured many of the things that typified his time in France: Moments of brilliance, moments of childish nonsense, match-winning/saving performances, clashes with coaches and just people in general, managers unwilling to make him a first XI player. The next year was wasted by De Jong. He was brilliant from December on last season, but once again missed more matches than he played in 2013. We watch every match so we know the boy is special, but who else is paying for this? The only way he leaves this summer is if someone turns his head and the guy forces it through, like he has done at his first two clubs. Agreed on everything. Don't think any team will be paying £20m. He barely plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think you basically have to fit the team around him. He hasn't really convinced as a No10 playing off a central striker, and when he's out wide he tends to drop deep rather get forward on the end of balls. Forward apex of a midfield diamond may be best, but then all the others have to fit in around that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think you basically have to fit the team around him. He hasn't really convinced as a No10 playing off a central striker, and when he's out wide he tends to drop deep rather get forward on the end of balls. Forward apex of a midfield diamond may be best, but then all the others have to fit in around that. We all know why that is, "Hatem, get back." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 I think you basically have to fit the team around him. He hasn't really convinced as a No10 playing off a central striker, and when he's out wide he tends to drop deep rather get forward on the end of balls. Forward apex of a midfield diamond may be best, but then all the others have to fit in around that. We all know why that is, "Hatem, get back." Well wide players are supposed to help the defence, at least now and then, but I don't think that's the full story. He likes to collect the ball in space and run at the opposition or deliver a forward pass. He's not so inclined to make a forward run in the hope of getting a pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 We need to keep him. He makes our team look far more dangerous when he's playing, and that's even when he's not playing at his best. The one true creative source our squad has with the exception of Marveaux. Can't be selling players like him imo. His injuries are concerning but do think we could have handled them better - playing him vs Fulham set him back and how much focus we had on him in france is open to debate. Hence the weight issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think you basically have to fit the team around him. He hasn't really convinced as a No10 playing off a central striker, and when he's out wide he tends to drop deep rather get forward on the end of balls. Forward apex of a midfield diamond may be best, but then all the others have to fit in around that. We all know why that is, "Hatem, get back." To be fair, the wonderful chap in your avatar told a far more effective wide player to do the same. You can't just allow your FB to get continually exposed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think you basically have to fit the team around him. He hasn't really convinced as a No10 playing off a central striker, and when he's out wide he tends to drop deep rather get forward on the end of balls. Forward apex of a midfield diamond may be best, but then all the others have to fit in around that. We all know why that is, "Hatem, get back." To be fair, the wonderful chap in your avatar told a far more effective wide player to do the same. You can't just allow your FB to get continually exposed. The wonderful chap in my avatar has nothing to do with Ben Arfa dropping deep so I have no idea why you've brought him into it. It was suggested that Ben Arfa plays too deep so I pointed out why he does it, was I wrong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Mick you are blatantly missing the point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Mick you are blatantly missing the point. I must be, what am I missing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 I think you basically have to fit the team around him. He hasn't really convinced as a No10 playing off a central striker, and when he's out wide he tends to drop deep rather get forward on the end of balls. Forward apex of a midfield diamond may be best, but then all the others have to fit in around that. We all know why that is, "Hatem, get back." To be fair, the wonderful chap in your avatar told a far more effective wide player to do the same. You can't just allow your FB to get continually exposed. Spot on. See also recent articles re Robben and Ribery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 We all know what his best position is.... Right side of front 3 in a 433 with freedom to float inside. But with all the supposed targets we have i can't see him playing there too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 28, 2013 Share Posted May 28, 2013 Monaco ready to pay whatever we want apparently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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