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What has happened to Tim Cahill?  Was he always this crap and just overachieved for a few seasons?

 

He's always been fairly average, but used to score more goals. Everton's Kevin Nolan.

 

EDIT: NEIL, is that a fair comment?

 

PALNESE, that's a fair comment yes.

 

Never been the best technically, but nearly every year he's come up with an impressive tally of goals. That knack has faded however the past couple of years. I thought we should've got rid last summer instead of Yak/Beckford - but Moyes selects certain players he likes time and time again.

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Why has Bale started playing anywhere but on the left wing? He's clearly not as effective in other positions.

 

Harry has decided to twiddle just when he shouldn't have.......funny to watch as Tottenham's form implodes though.

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Would like a draw here, I'm getting a bit nervous about Everton catching us, we're seemingly on the slide and they're on the charge as usual...

 

 

???

 

We've got a reasonable run-in, finally got all of our players back (we've not lost with them back). Agree with the comments about Arsenal being 3rd over Spurs, said last week (or before?) that I thought they'd overtake them by the end of March. Hoping we can get a draw on Monday but anything other than a savaging to our GD will be a bonus.

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Would like a draw here, I'm getting a bit nervous about Everton catching us, we're seemingly on the slide and they're on the charge as usual...

 

 

???

 

We've got a reasonable run-in, finally got all of our players back (we've not lost with them back). Agree with the comments about Arsenal being 3rd over Spurs, said last week (or before?) that I thought they'd overtake them by the end of March. Hoping we can get a draw on Monday but anything other than a savaging to our GD will be a bonus.

 

So you think we've played well recently?

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Don't think we've been pulling up trees but we did well enough to pick up points while Tiote and Ba (+ Cisse) were at ACoN and Cabaye suspended for 3 games, since those three (+ Cisse) are back we're now getting a 'settled' starting X/XI for the final run-in.

 

We were woeful for the final 60 minutes against Wolves, but I honestly felt the players took their eye off the ball/foot off the gas as they (and the crowd) felt the game was on course for a x-0 rout....then we had the derby match, where you can never judge a team on it's footballing prowess when the only thing that matters is the result. Saying that, I'll happily take the final 45 minutes as the 'standard' for the rest of our home games this season :thup:

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Glad people have finally picked up Bale being a diver.

 

:clap:

 

The Londer papers this week have been insufferable on this issue. They're always bollocks tbf, but particularly galling this week. Most days there has been an article on it. Trying to save his career by ducking out of dangerous challenges etc

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Don't think we've been pulling up trees but we did well enough to pick up points while Tiote and Ba (+ Cisse) were at ACoN and Cabaye suspended for 3 games, since those three (+ Cisse) are back we're now getting a 'settled' starting X/XI for the final run-in.

 

We were woeful for the final 60 minutes against Wolves, but I honestly felt the players took their eye off the ball/foot off the gas as they (and the crowd) felt the game was on course for a x-0 rout....then we had the derby match, where you can never judge a team on it's footballing prowess when the only thing that matters is the result. Saying that, I'll happily take the final 45 minutes as the 'standard' for the rest of our home games this season :thup:

 

Fair enough, I just don't feel like we've played well for a while but as you say, we did well enough to scrap for points in key players' absence. The Spurs & Fulham defeats have scarred me I think, we can be very easy to get at, and we've only taken 2 points from very two winnable home games. Big ask to get anything on Monday but as you say, few winnablegames coming up. If Everton win today and on Tuesday they're within 4 points of us, closer to us than we will be to 5th..

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Yeah, read something similar and it read like 'I don't dive, I just jump out of the way as I don't want to get touched.' wow...  :lol:

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"Anything other than a savaging to our goal difference will be a bonus"?

 

???

 

We've been neck and neck with them all season and we're supposed to be significantly stronger now than we were prior to January, what an absolutely ridiculous attitude. We beat a stronger Arsenal side with a weaker Newcastle one last season, we should be going there to win, a point's a decent result, a defeat is not good enough because we've shelled too many points at home in games we should be winning.

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"Anything other than a savaging to our goal difference will be a bonus"?

 

???

 

We've been neck and neck with them all season and we're supposed to be stronger now than we were prior to January, what an absolutely ridiculous attitude. We beat a stronger Arsenal side with a weaker Newcastle one last season, we should be going there to win, a point's a decent result, a defeat is not good enough because we've shelled too many points at home in games we should be winning.

 

If only football was as simple as this. We're talking about a team that's just scored 8 goals against Spurs & Milan recently. What we did in our last 3 games against these has no bearing on Monday night. They'll be strong favourites on Monday, and we'll have to play at 100%, with them at around 70% to even stand a chance of a result.

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"Anything other than a savaging to our goal difference will be a bonus"?

 

???

 

We've been neck and neck with them all season and we're supposed to be stronger now than we were prior to January, what an absolutely ridiculous attitude. We beat a stronger Arsenal side with a weaker Newcastle one last season, we should be going there to win, a point's a decent result, a defeat is not good enough because we've shelled too many points at home in games we should be winning.

 

If only football was as simple as this. We're talking about a team that's just scored 8 goals against Spurs & Milan recently. What we did in our last 3 games against these has no bearing on Monday night. They'll be strong favourites on Monday, and we'll have to play at 100%, with them at around 70% to even stand a chance of a result.

 

It has a bearing in that we need to try and recoup the points we've lost unnecessarily in two home games against poor sides. Spurs put 5 past us then couldn't beat Stevenage so I'm not interested in what Arsenal did last week or the week before.

 

Of course they'll be strong favourites. We were strong favourites at 2-0 up against Wolves but we flushed that game down the toilet (and just how embarrassing does that look now?) and we need at least a point on Monday. Our form is dreadful and we need to arrest it, that'll have to be against Arsenal because we were unable to do it against Wolves or the mackems.

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"Anything other than a savaging to our goal difference will be a bonus"?

 

???

 

We've been neck and neck with them all season and we're supposed to be stronger now than we were prior to January, what an absolutely ridiculous attitude. We beat a stronger Arsenal side with a weaker Newcastle one last season, we should be going there to win, a point's a decent result, a defeat is not good enough because we've shelled too many points at home in games we should be winning.

 

Disagree, I think you're massively underestimating an Arsenal side that have spent the first four months of the season overcoming the loss of their most influential player for 5 years (at least when Henry left, they had Cesc to take over the mantle) along with their second most creative player - both players the club didn't want to lose. Coupled with a shocking injury record and a Spurs-favouring media desperate for any anti-Arsenal story they can get their hands on and it's not hard to see why the confidence had been sucked out of them from July/August 2011 onwards.

 

Thankfully they've still had RVP to keep the scoreboard ticking over while they patch up the rest of the side (when was the last time you saw Wenger buy more than one 'significant' player on deadline day?) and get everyone integrated.

 

No surprise to see them start to kick on in the second half of the season.

 

I'd love for us to go and do what we did to Arsenal last season and hold on for a win but we've got better footballers in the team now who fancy playing football, or at least trying to if the manager allows them. I can't see HBA lumping the ball forward to Ameobi to chase down his own flick-ons a la Carroll last year.

 

Think there's been a massive overreaction to their post-Fabregas slump. They're better than Spurs over a season.

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