themanupstairs Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He might as well just stop doing pressers, getting to the point where anything he says gets over analysed on here. I bet if he ignored all questions on transfers he would still get slated by someone We all know what he says is largely bullshit Yep, as with almost every manager in the game. Pardew is the worst manager for this I can remember though. Souness, Allardyce, Kinnear and Roeder were never as bad as Pardew imo. Doesn't help we have an incompetent local paper that doesn't question him properly on transfer issues. Really enjoyed listening to Hughton's interviews. The man always oozed class and dignity, and spoke like a proper football manager. Never allowed what he said in the press to be used as political spin by the tabloids/boardroom/fans/national media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Really? I liked Hughton but his interviews were just as bad as Pardew's at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Very difficult to keep track of what he says when he is contradicting himself from one day to the next. Does he? The main gripe seems to have stemmed from the perceived contradiction that where he states how he'd like us to play but we get shitball on the pitch, or when he took positives out of a window but now calls on more investment in the next window. Fair enough, make him look a bit of a twat, but I have sympathy with how changes in circumstance can have an effect. The rest of it seems to be spiralling off into simply examining to death every off the cuff and often out of context quote, and looking to trip him up as far as I can tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Really? I liked Hughton but his interviews were just as bad as Pardew's at times. Maybe it's revisionism, but I don't seem to remember mistrusting what he said in interviews. He didn't let on to much when it came to the sensitive issues, and always knew how to get out of sticky questions with perfect diction and excellent English. Unlike this chav. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 He "fibbed" on more than one occasion if I'm remembering rightly. However, like others have alluded to in terms of this latest one from Pardew maybe not everything said in press conferences staged in front of the assembled national and local media should be taken as 100% fact all of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 And for the record, I don't believe that Pardew sees it as "lying" to the fans as much as it is part of a deliberate strategic plan to mislead the media to protect transfer dealings. We need to keep remembering how Cisse just came out of the blue, cost a fair wedge, and was exactly the type of player we needed last January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 My main gripe with Pardew's interviews is how he makes it come across as acceptable to play down our chances of achieving anything. I miss the days of listening to a Keegan or Sir Bobby who when they were being interviewed made you believe that dreams could come true. Keegan's interview before the match at Old Trafford in 2008 was fantastic. Iirc he was asked something about how Man Utd should easily beat us and he just said I have told the players nothing has been set in stone and it is upto you to write the headlines out there, so for them to just go out and believe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Worse than Kinnear! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 My main gripe with Pardew's interviews is how he makes it come across as acceptable to play down our chances of achieving anything. I miss the days of listening to a Keegan or Sir Bobby who when they were being interviewed made you believe that dreams could come true. Keegan's interview before the match at Old Trafford in 2008 was fantastic. Iirc he was asked something about how Man Utd should easily beat us and he just said I have told the players nothing has been set in stone and it is upto you to write the headlines out there, so for them to just go out and believe. Hasn't Pardew said stuff like "we're Newcastle Utd, we should be going out to win every game" etc? Obviously Sir Bobby and KK were very special people, not many managers compare to them for motivation and emotion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are shite all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are shite all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. He would get praised for honesty at the very least that way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are shite all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. If a manager says he's bringing in a number of players it might just give some of our current team a kick up the arse that their place might be under threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are shite all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. If a manager says he's bringing in a number of players it might just give some of our current team a kick up the arse that their place might be under threat. Possibly, true. Different players will respond in different ways I suppose. Pardew never seems to use negative motivation though, not sure whether that's good or bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are shite all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. If a manager says he's bringing in a number of players it might just give some of our current team a kick up the arse that their place might be under threat. Its obvious to everyone what areas are open to improvement, the players will know that even 'one or two' could mean their place is gone without having to go overboard. If he said 5 and we got one this place would break down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The worst for me was when he basically said the youngsters we have were shite, after the Bordeaux game. Now many of them haven't exactly been tearing the place to shreds but this is their first proper season in the team, a team that has been off the rails most of the season. Slagging them off in public is not the way to go about it if you ask me and definitely not in the situation we are in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BottledDog Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? fuck me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are shite all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. If a manager says he's bringing in a number of players it might just give some of our current team a kick up the arse that their place might be under threat. Possibly, true. Different players will respond in different ways I suppose. Pardew never seems to use negative motivation though, not sure whether that's good or bad. He might not hammer players in public that often (after Bordauex would be one occasion though ottomh, or maybe Hatems and Rangers darker periods), and rightly so. But I think it's nonsense to suggest he's restricted to motivation through praise alone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 MAY need to bring in ONE or TWO? f*** me Aye much better man management and cost effective to just state we need 5 players to come in.... "We are s**** all over the pitch, we need at least five signings or we're getting relegated". Cheers Alan. If a manager says he's bringing in a number of players it might just give some of our current team a kick up the arse that their place might be under threat. Not saying we need more first teamers. We need Premiership standard squad players as well. I'd say new CB, winger and RB for first team, regardless of what happens with Demba. Plus maybe another full-back and maybe another DM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 We need 3/4 first team players!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Debuchy Sissoko Douglas (for example) And i'd feel a lot better about where we are going. No doubt we'll sell Ba, Santon & one other and bring in zero. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 The worst for me was when he basically said the youngsters we have were shite, after the Bordeaux game. Now many of them haven't exactly been tearing the place to shreds but this is their first proper season in the team, a team that has been off the rails most of the season. Slagging them off in public is not the way to go about it if you ask me and definitely not in the situation we are in. aside from how awful he's been doing with the actual football he's showing signs of cracking with like this mind, it'll get him in the end, it gets them all in the end the madness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuyP Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Debuchy Sissoko Douglas (for example) And i'd feel a lot better about where we are going. No doubt we'll sell Ba, Santon & one other and bring in zero. http://www.footballtop.com/sites/default/files/photos/players/michael_james_williamson.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 2 or 3 signings? New contract for Ba, new contract for Ranger and maybe a youth player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Does anyone think Ba will end up signing a new deal? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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