Newcastle Fan Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 When he first moved in here he was living in the same building as my mates amd bringing a different girl with him every night, Muslim my ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 When he first moved in here he was living in the same building as my mates amd bringing a different girl with him every night, Muslim my ass love to muslim your ass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 When he first moved in here he was living in the same building as my mates amd bringing a different girl with him every night, Muslim my ass What a lifestyle. Non stop bitches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Until he actually says he won't wear the shirt, I wouldn't worry about it. As the post above suggests, Islam can be flexible like any other religion! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. Exactly, I don't understand the point people are making here. Lying is a sin, murder is a sin, pre-marital sex is a sin, immoral money lending is a sin, gambling is a sin. It is a given that every follower sin pretty much everyday. That doesn't mean you can't turn around and stand up for something based on your moral and religious beliefs. You really wouldn't be able to stand-up for anything if something negative you do means you can't do something positive. I've watched porn but I wouldn't accept any type of job within that market on moral grounds. Probably makes me a hypocrite. But I just couldn't actively and continuously support it through my professional life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. There might well be rumours going round that Cisse likes to snort coke and drink Jack Daniels. If these are true then that would make also make him a massive hypocrite, not to mention a terrible influence to younger toon fans. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 why is everyone having a pop at him? I'm on his side. Fuck Wonga, man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. Exactly, I don't understand the point people are making here. Lying is a sin, murder is a sin, pre-marital sex is a sin, immoral money lending is a sin, gambling is a sin. It is a given that every follower sin pretty much everyday. That doesn't mean you can't turn around and stand up for something based on your moral and religious beliefs. You really wouldn't be able to stand-up for anything if something negative you do means you can't do something positive. I've watched porn but I wouldn't accept any type of job within that market on moral grounds. Probably makes me a hypocrite. But I just couldn't actively and continuously support it through my professional life. Sin only counts if you believe in religion, which i don't and tbh think people who do are stark raving mental. We all do things we shouldn't or don't do things we should do. I suppose the only real gripe is Cisse using his religion to refuse to do something. Yet he does things his religion supposedly also doesn't permit. Because he likes the others things, well so what is what i think. Religion is going to blow this all out of porportion, as religion usually does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. There might well be rumours going round that Cisse likes to snort coke and drink Jack Daniels. If these are true then that would make also make him a massive hypocrite, not to mention a terrible influence to younger toon fans. Well yeah, he may also like sucking donkey cock and fingering granny bumholes, they wouldn't be good examples either would they. Them along with your snorting coke and JD aren't true though tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. There might well be rumours going round that Cisse likes to snort coke and drink Jack Daniels. If these are true then that would make also make him a massive hypocrite, not to mention a terrible influence to younger toon fans. Well yeah, he may also like sucking donkey cock and fingering granny bumholes, they wouldn't be good examples either would they. Them along with your snorting coke and JD aren't true though tbf. and the Wonga stuff is confirmed as genuine right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. There might well be rumours going round that Cisse likes to snort coke and drink Jack Daniels. If these are true then that would make also make him a massive hypocrite, not to mention a terrible influence to younger toon fans. Well yeah, he may also like sucking donkey cock and fingering granny bumholes, they wouldn't be good examples either would they. Them along with your snorting coke and JD aren't true though tbf. and the Wonga stuff is confirmed as genuine right? The Chronicle said so this morning, if you believe them. Actually i wont really believe any of it until Cisse says it himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 doubt VERY much there is any truth in that at all. Which one? Him gambling? Seen plenty of pictures on Twitter of him on the Black Jack tables in Aspers. No not his gambling him refusing to wear a wonga sponsored shirt. Isn't the issue that Muslims do not pay interest on loans or gain interest on savings ? but he had no issue wearing a Virgin Money sponsored shirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 doubt VERY much there is any truth in that at all. Which one? Him gambling? Seen plenty of pictures on Twitter of him on the Black Jack tables in Aspers. No not his gambling him refusing to wear a wonga sponsored shirt. Isn't the issue that Muslims do not pay interest on loans or gain interest on savings ? but he had no issue wearing a Virgin Money sponsored shirt. I was under the impression interest isn't prohibited but it's the extortionate interest that is the problem. Seeing as it's religion and it's all about interpretation, well bollocks to it all tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 What a hypocritical cock end if this is true. However the new deal part slightly touched on there makes me think this could just be a bargaining chip to add with Russian bids because he certainly wouldn't get one based on last seasons performances. The Muslim bank thing is a great idea, rather that than sponsorless, maybe a local or national charity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Be nice if the whole team jumped to his aid and we went sponsorless next season! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 If it's true, he's a hypocrite who is cherry picking and using his religion to do so in what he will and wont do. Just like everyone does with just about everything in life. Were all hypocrites to some extent, or liars if you think you aren't. Couldn't care less me, not one jot. Exactly, I don't understand the point people are making here. Lying is a sin, murder is a sin, pre-marital sex is a sin, immoral money lending is a sin, gambling is a sin. It is a given that every follower sin pretty much everyday. That doesn't mean you can't turn around and stand up for something based on your moral and religious beliefs. You really wouldn't be able to stand-up for anything if something negative you do means you can't do something positive. I've watched porn but I wouldn't accept any type of job within that market on moral grounds. Probably makes me a hypocrite. But I just couldn't actively and continuously support it through my professional life. Sin only counts if you believe in religion, which i don't and tbh think people who do are stark raving mental. We all do things we shouldn't or don't do things we should do. I suppose the only real gripe is Cisse using his religion to refuse to do something. Yet he does things his religion supposedly also doesn't permit. Because he likes the others things, well so what is what i think. Religion is going to blow this all out of porportion, as religion usually does. It would probably be messier if he didn't want to wear it because of non-religious moral reasons bur equally as valid imo. I've turned down approaches from gambling companies and i've had the odd flutter myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir_9 Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Coming from a Muslim background myself - I have serious doubts theres anything into this story. Unless he had no clue the previous two sponsors we had also lend money with interest. Hell Islamic banking isn't predominant in the Muslim world on its own to begin with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 This story sounds like some random rehash of a story that never picked up much steam when the club announced the Wonga deal to be honest. And many discussing the morality of the man, religion etc are wasting their own time as well. Wait for some quotes or a real announcement I guess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 I would've thought it nonsense had the Chronicle not come out with it. I dare say there's something in it, but that's not to say it hasn't been blown out of proportion for the purposes of shit-stirring. There'll be a compromise, I'm sure - I fully believe he likes playing for this club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 The same guy who tweeted congratulating Man Utd on winning the title and then saying one day we'll be there. He loves this place, no doubt in my mind. If there is an issue, there will be a compromise. And fuck Wonga. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Coming from a Muslim background myself - I have serious doubts theres anything into this story. Unless he had no clue the previous two sponsors we had also lend money with interest. Hell Islamic banking isn't predominant in the Muslim world on its own to begin with. This is what I was thinking as well. Technically it might be against Islam but we all know religions have differing levels of importance in people's lives, and they can be interpreted in many many ways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheshire Mag Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Im sure I remember something around here when we signed him that he wasnt a practicing muslim anyway?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted June 9, 2013 Share Posted June 9, 2013 Not sure why people get so wound up about Wonga. You borrow £100 for a week and it costs you about £13. A direct debit fails or you go overdrawn for 1 day and you can be charged £20 for each one by your bank. For sending out an automated letter that probably cost them 10p. In the dark days of my misspent youth I accumulated over £2k worth of bank charges for failed direct debits and going over my overdraft by less than £50. Completey my fault so didnt complain but Managed to reclaim 75% of it a few years back which was fun. Know which one I think is worse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted June 10, 2013 Share Posted June 10, 2013 Newcastle confident of resolving Cisse dispute 8:00am Monday 10th June 2013 in Sport By Scott Wilson NEWCASTLE United officials are confident of resolving a stand-off with Papiss Cisse about the striker's reluctance to wear a strip featuring the logo of new sponsors, Wonga. However, while there is a desire to respect Cisse's Islamic beliefs, it is extremely unlikely that the Senegal international will be allowed to wear his own customised shirt without any Wonga branding next season. Cisse's representatives have informed senior Newcastle officials that sharia law forbids the 28-year-old from representing or advertising a loans company. Sharia rules state that Muslims must not benefit from either lending or receiving money, and Islamic banking institutions do not charge interest in the conventional sense. Neither Cheik Tiote nor Hatem Ben Arfa, who are also practising Muslims, have raised concerns, but Cisse is insistent that he does not feel comfortable being associated with Wonga. The striker is currently on international duty with Senegal, and scored his side's goal in Saturday's 1-1 draw with Angola in a World Cup qualifier. He is expected to remain in Africa on holiday at the end of the international break, and is not due to return to England until the start of July. A meeting will be scheduled for the first week of pre-season training, where the issue of next season's kit will be discussed. The Newcastle hierarchy have previously been willing to accommodate their players' religious requirements, even installing a prayer room at the club's Darsley Park training complex. However, it is understood the issue of Wonga's sponsorship is non-negotiable and individual players will not be allowed to opt out of promoting the club's headline sponsors. Sevilla allowed Freddie Kanoute to wear an unbranded shirt when he objected to the Spanish club's tie-up with gambling website, 888.com, but Newcastle do not want to go down that route. Magpies officials have noted that Cisse was willing to wear the branding of Virgin Money, another finance company that falls foul of Sharia regulations, and never raised ethical concerns about their practices. The club's lawyers will be poring over the fine detail of Cisse's contract to ascertain the degree to which an employee can be forced to adhere to club regulations, even if they contravene religious beliefs. It will be difficult to force Cisse to do something against his wishes, as Alan Pardew will be reluctant to start the new campaign with an unmotivated or hostile player in his ranks. However, it is hoped that a compromise agreement can be reached that will see both parties settle on a mutually acceptable position. The talks about next season's Wonga branding will be part of a wider discussion about Cisse's future, with the striker keen to secure an improved contract, but both Mike Ashley and Derek Llambias reluctant to agree to a new deal. Russian side Anzhi Makhachkala have made a formal inquiry about Cisse's services, although their interest is not believed to be at as advanced a stage as some media outlets have suggested. Nevertheless, the Newcastle hierarchy are fully aware of the mounting uncertainty surrounding their number nine, and will be keen to have the situation resolved one way or another before the start of next season. There is no desire to sell Cisse, but as previous situations have proved, Ashley and Llambias can shift their position quickly once an offer is placed on the table. Meanwhile, Newcastle are monitoring Ivory Coast international Gervinho for the second time in three summers. The Magpies were close to signing Gervinho in 2011, only for the winger to complete an £11m move to Arsenal instead. His two seasons at the Emirates have hardly been a roaring success, and he is expected to leave the Gunners for a reduced fee this summer. Newcastle would be interested in the 26-year-old if the price was right, although Gervinho is understood to prefer a return to France. With a proposed summer trip to South Africa having collapsed, the Magpies are expected to confirm their pre-season plans in the first half of this week. http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/10473248.Newcastle_confident_of_resolving_Cisse_dispute/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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