Guest neesy111 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 What are their striking options at the moment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Campbell, Wickham, Dong-Won right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 What are their striking options at the moment? Campbell, Noble, Dong-Won, Wickham. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I'll be surprised if they get 15 goals between them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anderson Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Campbell, Wickham, Dong-Won right? That's fucking atrocious. Even Shola would walk into their team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I'll be surprised if they get 15 goals between them. I doubt they will score 10 tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=719631 That's a great thread tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuv Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=719631 That's a great thread tbh. Second post... Sig hard to disagree, and these weren't even the worst of them. __________________ Newcastle United FC's average attendance in 1990-91 season was 16,879 Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=719631#ixzz22lYoWnuT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showpost.php?p=13120901&postcount=153 :clap: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 They both make good points. Football is always going to be the most popular sport because of how accessible it is to watch and play. I can only see it becoming more popular around the world. If other sports (olympic marginalised sports) were as competitive and gained as much coverage throughout the year, I would no doubt watch them more but they'd not overtake football. In spite of all that, I have more respect for most of the athletes at the olympics than the footballers and it shows how much competing and pushing yourself means to these people. When the money bubble eventually bursts in footballer's wages, football will not only be even more popular than it already is, but will be so much more likeable. I can't wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wormy Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 They both make good points. Football is always going to be the most popular sport because of how accessible it is to watch and play. I can only see it becoming more popular around the world. If other sports (olympic marginalised sports) were as competitive and gained as much coverage throughout the year, I would no doubt watch them more but they'd not overtake football. In spite of all that, I have more respect for most of the athletes at the olympics than the footballers and it shows how much competing and pushing yourself means to these people. When the money bubble eventually bursts in footballer's wages, football will not only be even more popular than it already is, but will be so much more likeable. I can't wait Will the cycle not then just continue and as it gets more popular and likeable, the money continues to flow in and gets distributed unfairly again? Or are you expecting a major overhaul with wage caps etc to come into play as soon said bubble bursts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I mean worldwide the sport will become more popular, so in countries which don't love it at the moment. In terms of the money bubble bursting, I expect that to happen and think it is happening to some degree because of the fact that most clubs are in debt and the world is in a financial crisis. I don't know about wage caps but I would welcome them or any other financial constraints in football Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 It is still sentimentality at the end of the day. There is a lot of nobs in football and the money to work ratio is obscene, but where else is the money supposed to go? Also many of our athletes come from massively privileged backgrounds so I don't see how the capitalism argument works when many footballers come from relative poverty? We also have the medal leaders China putting children through ridiculous strain in an effort to clean out the event. Probably more than any other sport football is an opportunity for people from any walk of life to make something of themselves and there's strong evidence of that in probably every squad in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 You can say what you want about footballers, but whether some are terrible people or not, the best are always the ones that use the same methods as the olympic athletes. It's depressing when you think of someone like Ranger getting paid a kings wage, but then you have someone like John Terry, Ryan Giggs, Wayne Rooney, Steven Gerrard who've all been in the news for the wrong reasons, but have achieved a great deal through hard work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The money wouldn't go anywhere if it wasn't being paid to the players, it would stay in the fans' pockets or spent elsewhere. That bit about a lot of the Olympic team being from privileged backgrounds isn't quite right either I don't think. Especially the medal winners anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 The whole thread is a good read btw, probably the best I've seen on there without them tearing into one another. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I think their current status feeds into it a lot mind, you'd have got a similar feeling on here when we went down and Brummie's rants of a similar nature are concurrent with his side struggling. Our current squad is the most likable in bloody yonks, and they can play too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhoywhonder Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Just noticed this from yesterdays paper....pre-season pull out guide, each page has a team's synopsis: Ruling out a swarm of new arrivals on Teesside, Sunderland Chairman Ellis Short says he is focussing on quality, not quantity. Teesside Quality :yao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 A good RTG thread without the words mag cernt amazing! There is a point, football is being ruined by money, and most footballers have been shown up big time by the Olympians. A wage cap would be a good start, maybe it would drive players away to other leagues, but football at the moment isnt sustainable at all (also would EU law allow a wage cap?) I honestly don't really like watching football that much anymore, I watch toon games as its ingrained in me and I'm always bothered by how we get on but take the euros for example I wasn't fussed about watching it in the slightest, yet just a few years ago I'd of watched every second. You see people at the olympics competing every other day in some team sports, and in some cases doing 2/3 races a day in others, yet footballers complain about playing two matches in a week! I still find it ridiculous that you get people who are part time athletes who work "real" jobs then do their sport outside of that who are fitter and stronger than most footballers who are paid insane sums of money to be fit and strong. This probably isnt the best place for this post and we could probably do with a thread on this itself (if there isnt already one!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I fucking hate the cliché that football is "ruined by money". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 I fucking hate the cliché that football is "ruined by money". But it is! Players are paid insane money, tickets are so fucking overpriced, sky paid a stupid ammount for TV rights money which should be invested in to young people playing the game and facilities not on paying some wankers more money in a week than people earn in a year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 If so, football has been ruined for a long time. I agree some of the wages are outrageous, but there's no stopping it. PSG are certainly no worse than the likes of Man City and Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Disagree. It's easier than ever to watch football now, I can legally watch every minute of the Premier League season if I want to. The football on show is the best it has ever been, thanks to the money involved. How does the fact that Ben Arfa earn £40 000 a week make it less enjoyable to watch him play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Football is still great to watch but do wish any club in the league had a shot at winning it, it's telling how hyped everyone gets when wigan or someone beat man u in a game and everyone was very surprised we made 5th that gone are the days of genuine competition throughout the league. Premier league is at least saved by decent tv money distributed more evenly than elsewhere. Disproportionate spending power of certain clubs hasn't ruined football but it's not healthy either, and the bubble football is still on will burst one day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted August 6, 2012 Share Posted August 6, 2012 Its more that they act like little kids moaning at the ref cheating and diving, compared to the olympics where the cheats were disqualified, no moaning at the referee person who comes second congratulates the winner. I'm sure if footballers were on say £500,000 a year or even a million (still shit loads but better than now) they would play the same as they do then the clubs could invest the money back in to their local communities rather than wasting it on players. Its also the attitudes footballers seem to have compared to the olympians who go out try their best and footballers who always seem to have an excuse or blame something/someone else (usually the referee). Hopefully if wages were cut they'd be more down to earth and act less like spoilt brats, both on and off the pitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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