Varadi Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I wonder how much he's damaged his reputation at Sunderland now, he seemed held in huge regard by media after Villa and now still gets talked about, but I suspect like mark hughes will struggle to find a good club willing to employ him Think this will be his last job to be honest - he knows he isn't getting a really big gig anymore and it looks like his heart isn't really in it, think he'll retire once the mackems finally pull the plug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 full of self doubt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 He gave them that (predictable) short term lift when he arrived but he looks hopelessly outdated at the moment with his play. He doesn't look like he has a plan B currently and the players he's brought in like Johnson simply aren't doing it. Once his ability to get the players fighting for the cause goes then he has no back up system wise to fall back on. Looks dead in the water to me but we'll see I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JS Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Mocking Myewnich from a sewper dewper compyewter screen. Mackem hard man. fyp fypyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
healthyaddiction Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Mocking Myewnich from a sewper dewper compyewter screen. Mackem hard man. fyp fyfyp fyfyfyp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 wish I could find the post where I predicted this demise during his honeymoon period, when players were still listening to his blarney. now thats gone- theres nowt left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 I remember a couple of folk on this forum telling me oneill was a genius, just after his villa team had beaten KK's team 4-1 at Villa. We started off ok moving the ball around and I think Duff scored for us. oneill switched villa in the second half to hoofing the ball forward to Harewood and that lanky plank from Norway. It worked, but dont tell me thats fucking genius ffs. Yes the man is a genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Just having a browse through some stats last night, in a non obsessed way you understand. Just how long have they been abysmal, well for most of my lifetime and beyond. But more recently, there was that horrendous run that got Bruce the sack, and now the equally bad run of O'neil. We all realise that new managers can have a galvanising effect on a club, and have the so called honeymoon period, even the mackems admit that O'neils initial few games were a honeymoon. So, if you take out O'neils first 16 games, where they got 9 wins. The other 51 games(the end of Bruce's reign and the current spell) they have only won 7 games. Yes thats right 7 wins out of 51 games, for a total of 39 points. So what does that say about their club, and their squad, transfer policy, and how Shorts millions have been spent. This period includes the time when they had "the best squad for 20 years", then "set the transfer window alight" nice mind. I said before they appointed oneill they had a chance to make a big change in the clubs future but instead of a new up and coming manager with bright ideas and a transfer policy they went with tired old hasbeen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Just having a browse through some stats last night, in a non obsessed way you understand. Just how long have they been abysmal, well for most of my lifetime and beyond. But more recently, there was that horrendous run that got Bruce the sack, and now the equally bad run of O'neil. We all realise that new managers can have a galvanising effect on a club, and have the so called honeymoon period, even the mackems admit that O'neils initial few games were a honeymoon. So, if you take out O'neils first 16 games, where they got 9 wins. The other 51 games(the end of Bruce's reign and the current spell) they have only won 7 games. Yes thats right 7 wins out of 51 games, for a total of 39 points. So what does that say about their club, and their squad, transfer policy, and how Shorts millions have been spent. This period includes the time when they had "the best squad for 20 years", then "set the transfer window alight" nice mind. I think if you had thrown that kind of money at Carr/pardew we'd be pushing for champions league now, which is probably the cause of most fans frustrations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 they run thier club and fans judge thier club with far too much of an eye on what we do- its doomed to fail as they make the same mistakes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=747368 Kilgallon as DM :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Killgallon :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 how long is clattermong out for? they look fucked in midfield without thier thug. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 how long is clattermong out for? they look fucked in midfield without thier thug. Two months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 how long is clattermong out for? they look fucked in midfield without thier thug. Two months. i think they will be bottom, or second bottom by them. I also think Short is done on spending on it so there may be trouble ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxfree Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Paper talk, but think I read that Short was prepared to back MON with £8m in January. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeloEmre Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Paper talk, but think I read that Short was prepared to back MON with £8m in January. Aiden McGeady it is then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Paper talk, but think I read that Short was prepared to back MON with £8m in January. a) it will be wasted b) nowhere near enough to sort them out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Paper talk, but think I read that Short was prepared to back MON with £8m in January. Aiden McGeady it is then. And play him left back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's so obvious that pretty much everything Brummie said has been the case, it's like MON has 11 favourite players who he will shoehorn into the team regardless of how poor a player is in a different position. After months of Gardner at right back/Colback at left back he's now a huge fan of Larsson in centre midfield because he can't drop him, even though he's absolutely dreadful aside from his set piece delivery Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Yeah even a few mackems on the phone in were saying Larsson only gets a game cos he scored a couple of free kicks early on in MONs reign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuneaton Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It's so obvious that pretty much everything Brummie said has been the case, it's like MON has 11 favourite players who he will shoehorn into the team regardless of how poor a player is in a different position. After months of Gardner at right back/Colback at left back he's now a huge fan of Larsson in centre midfield because he can't drop him, even though he's absolutely dreadful aside from his set piece delivery which is why they struggle at the end of the season with 11 knackered overworked players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Side has 0 creativity. It's like us playing all season without Hatem and Cabaye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superior Acuña Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 It seemed that when we got sounees that was in light of the failure to get 'too manager MON' that many wanted. Makes you wonder now how better it would have been if shepherd had gotten his man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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