David Icke - Son of God Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 My reaction whenever I see Brummie has commented on this thread: http://cdn.head-fi.org/4/42/4290616d_HappyBirthdayBlackKid.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Apparently Rose can be bought next month with Liverpool and qpr sniffing and spuds willing to sell. Best player by a mile according to them effectively walking away for nowt. We should be in for him. Send them over the edge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brummie Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 At least he's honest: http://i.imgur.com/fKIxt.png I'd be interested in your thoughts on him claiming O'Neill left Villa in a better position than when he joined btw. It really depends how you view it. When he came, Ellis still owned the club, we were utterly, utterly skint, and heading for relegation sooner or later, but we were also days away from being bought by a US billionaire, so, in that sense, he had a lot of help, and i think anyone would have struggled not to leave us in a better place. I am not going to rewrite history and pretend finishing 6th three times wasn't nice. It was. The flip side is that MON arrived in 2006, 14 years since the start of the PL. In those 14 years, we'd finished top six in 6 of the years. David O'Leary got us a sixth placed finish, with way less money. Brian Little had us 4th and 5th. Ron Atkinson has us 2nd. Sixth place wasn't special to us, it was good, but not stratospheric, so it was nothing like the sort of achievement it would be, say, to finish sixth with Sunderland, who have been a yo-yo club for most of those years. The problem with MON is that it was all achieved at such a high cost, and on such a short term basis, and with such a limitation to how far it could be stretched. The fact we reached Wembley twice, a CCF and a FAC semi, looks good on paper, and I had two magnificent days out, but the most telling fact of that is that over 180 minutes of football, I think we had at most four shots on goal. We'd peaked, we were never going to get better. re the short term basis, he spent a lot of money. You could say it wasn't "that much" in the wider picture, but that misses the point that so much of what he spent was spent badly. Yes, we did well from Milner, Young and Downing, who he signed, but we also did abysmally on other fronts, like the purchase of two entire defences in successive seasons, 50m on defenders. It was all so scattergun, but he spent enough that it worked. The problem was that, he left us with all those players still on big money deals, and still with years on their contracts. You have to wonder, who would think Emile Heskey on 65k a week on a 3.5 year deal when he's almost 32 is a good idea. Or Beye on 40k a week for three years, aged 32. I think the best way to look at the MON years is to think of it like renting a really opulent house for a few years, spending a fortune, having a bit of luxury, and enjoying yourself. When you move out, you've got nothing left, it was expensive and fun at the time, but it was the building block for nothing. What you should have done was buy a house and give yourself a platform for the future. That was what MON left us with - a massive bill, a lopsided squad replete with players who weren't good enough, but were on big wages. He left because he wouldn't do what managers have to do - wheel and deal, manage their squad. Was that a better place than when he came? well, yes, but look at the state of us before he came. The biggest impact on how we improved over that time was not MON, it was Randy Lerner pumping enormous sums into the club. I look at clubs we competed with over that period, like Tottenham and Everton, and I think how cannily they were / are run, and it reflects terribly on MON's legacy. Spurs spend money, they sell their best players, but they have an overview of what they are trying to do, and they make sure there is some ongoing value to the money they spend. There was none of this in the way MON managed my club, none. The ultimate example of this is that, after four years of spending Champions League transfer money, paying Champions League wages, we now have a squad that looks more Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 All lovely an all but i'm just enjoying the mess the dopey leprechaun is getting himself and them into. Sod the past, loving the now to be honest. A 4-4-2 dinosaur dying on his arse........lovely to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I honestly thought he'd have a good few years at sunderland before the bubble burst, when in reality he had a good month or two and since been terrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 ..this will take time to change...o'neills players are the only ones performing......aj over last few...if he buys quality replacements at 3 per window then its the season after next where we will be where we all want Read more: http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=747269#ixzz2EUkuO2dN hahahahahaha!!!!!11111one ha :lol: :lol: fking hell, always next season has progressed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 The best bit is that all O'Neill sides struggle badly at end of the season which means it'll get worse for the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Loved this one http://www.readytogo.net/smb/showthread.php?t=747124&page=3 - Reply numbers 24-26 Stupid Mackem #1 Quote: Originally Posted by carlitos66 View Post hyped as a saviour....will deliver fuck all.....we need an up and coming manager....none of these relics Agree I've said a few times now we need Lee Clark in The only man capable of turning us around Just hope we haven't burnt our bridges with him. Stupid Mackem #2 Quote: Originally Posted by Boo Boy View Post He will be wearing that T-shirt at the press conference Was only a daft joke. I'd forgive it for the chance of having a top top gaffer in charge. (Forgive the rubbish quoting, but I'm not a member there!) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 How long until Ellis Short gives up? Surely he'll be doubting whether it's advisable to hand the little troll another £20 million to spend in January? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 How long until Ellis Short gives up? Surely he'll be doubting whether it's advisable to hand the little troll another £20 million to spend in January? not long judging by his head in hands shot on tv today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 How long until Ellis Short gives up? Surely he'll be doubting whether it's advisable to hand the little troll another £20 million to spend in January? not long judging by his head in hands shot on tv today Oh my Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 How long until Ellis Short gives up? Surely he'll be doubting whether it's advisable to hand the little troll another £20 million to spend in January? Why is he even involved? He have mackem heritage or something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 How long until Ellis Short gives up? Surely he'll be doubting whether it's advisable to hand the little troll another £20 million to spend in January? not long judging by his head in hands shot on tv today Oh my yep- camera panned the directors box, short was leaning forward hand over face- no shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I've made a huge mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 To be fair we'll probably lose to Chelsea also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 and thats at 0-1! Imagine what he was like at 0-3! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 To be fair we'll probably lose to Chelsea also. aye, and they will have a night of party wanking- and so it goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 How long until Ellis Short gives up? Surely he'll be doubting whether it's advisable to hand the little troll another £20 million to spend in January? Why is he even involved? He have mackem heritage or something? When the economy crashed all the Irish property tycoons involved in Drumaville weren't in a position to bankroll the club so Quinn and the board went on a roadshow around the US to attract investors. The only person who showed an interest was Short. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest teapot Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 There a long way to go yet ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 One of my mackem mates just put on FB 'thank fuck for that, he's finally gone' instantly thought they meant Mon not the scouse off X-factor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest benge23 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 MON looked like he wanted to dropkick that journalist that asked him about self doubt! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ameritoon Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Was a pretty shit question, tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 Right you load of fuckers. while watching Reading i've had an epiphany. If God/Allah/Beelzebub/Dale Winton let Reading win on Tuesday i will ask Mrs Bimpy to marry me on Christmas morning, sacrificing myself at the alter of a lard bucketed temptress. A life of eternal misery just so you lot can have a laugh at the Mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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