geordie_b Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 So just like this season Chelsea could get knocked out the CL, drop into the Europa League and then sack off the rest of the league season and ensure they win the Europa? Its a decent idea but only if its coupled with abolishing the Champions League drop out farce. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 So just like this season Chelsea could get knocked out the CL, drop into the Europa League and then sack off the rest of the league season and ensure they win the Europa? Its a decent idea but only if its coupled with abolishing the Champions League drop out farce. Completely agree. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S.S.R. Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Just make one European cup knockout competition from the top 3-5 clubs of each country. No daft mini leagues, no 2nd chances for the knocked out big guns, no clubs sweating on financial meltdown because they finished 5th instead of 4th one season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 They badly need to make the CL smaller IMO, 2 places for each country max. Then those other clubs go into the Europa and make it better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 They badly need to make the CL smaller IMO, 2 places for each country max. Then those other clubs go into the Europa and make it better. Not at all, they just need to reduce the wealth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 They badly need to make the CL smaller IMO, 2 places for each country max. Then those other clubs go into the Europa and make it better. Not at all, they just need to reduce the wealth. Just like how the PL should prop-up a much bigger payment pool for the FA cup imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 UEFA has confirmed winners of the Europa League will qualify for the next season's Champions League from the 2015/16 season onwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zach Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Seems fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 So long as the Champs league dropouts remain, continues to emulate the Champs league group format and even keeps it's rubbish sounding name, the Europa League will remain a joke of competition. How I long for the old UEFA Cup knockouts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 24, 2013 Share Posted May 24, 2013 Came to the conclusion that on the whole, this is a bad move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Think it's pretty inconsequential myself, a lot of teams that won the EL qualified for the CL that season, might work better if they removed all the CL dropouts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Came to the conclusion that on the whole, this is a bad move. Why? It's a step in the right direction imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Came to the conclusion that on the whole, this is a bad move. Why? It's a step in the right direction imo. It devalues the competition even further. The UEFA Cup used to be a prestigious competition that teams were desperate to win and often had line-ups that were as strong or stronger than the European Cup. But the expansion of the CL, the ridiculous changes to the format and the tacky rebranding have all contributed to making it a naffer competition than it was. Then you take into account the lack of prize money in the modern game and you're left with a shell of a competition. They'd be better off improving the actual competition (less bloated format, spread the CL money out) but instead they've tacked on the prize of playing in the real competition that UEFA cares about. They've basically admitted its rubbish rather than trying to fix it, and stuck on an incentive as an easy fix. When WINNING A TROPHY needs an incentive of playing in another competition to make it worthwhile surely that should tell them that they've fucked it up completely somewhere along the way. Over the next few years it status will fall to being no more than a 4th place finish equivalent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 Came to the conclusion that on the whole, this is a bad move. Why? It's a step in the right direction imo. It devalues the competition even further. The UEFA Cup used to be a prestigious competition that teams were desperate to win and often had line-ups that were as strong or stronger than the European Cup. But the expansion of the CL, the ridiculous changes to the format and the tacky rebranding have all contributed to making it a naffer competition than it was. Then you take into account the lack of prize money in the modern game and you're left with a shell of a competition. They'd be better off improving the actual competition (less bloated format, spread the CL money out) but instead they've tacked on the prize of playing in the real competition that UEFA cares about. They've basically admitted its rubbish rather than trying to fix it, and stuck on an incentive as an easy fix. When WINNING A TROPHY needs an incentive of playing in another competition to make it worthwhile surely that should tell them that they've f***ed it up completely somewhere along the way. TBF before the rebranding UEFA was still a pretty shit cup, the rules have been the same for a long long time except it's not knockout phase anymore. I do agree with your sentiment, but it was still the same problem with the UEFA Cup and I think it's an extra incentive to teams, so in my opinion it's a step in the right direction. It's either this with knockout phase or give it up completely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashley17 Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 This makes more sense than winning it and having to go through the whole arduous process again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 This makes more sense than winning it and having to go through the whole arduous process again. See, this is what they should be fixing. The logistical and motivational reasons why it has become an 'arduous process'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 The only problem with the EL, and one that can't be easily fixed, is that the expansion of the CL removed a lot of the allure of the UEFA. As Sewelly said, you only had one great team from every league in the old European Cup, while all the others played in the UEFA which in some ways made it a stronger competition. The EC was imho an easier competition to win, just way harder to qualify for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 They should have stopped widening the funnel of the top teams into the CL really, now the balance has already been tipped too far. Maybe 2 teams per country was the optimum. This is just my opinions anyway, I can get why people think this change is a good idea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 I *do* miss the CWC though. It made winning a domestic cup so much more special. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted May 26, 2013 Share Posted May 26, 2013 They should have stopped widening the funnel of the top teams into the CL really, now the balance has already been tipped too far. Maybe 2 teams per country was the optimum. This is just my opinions anyway, I can get why people think this change is a good idea. It's just a step in the right direction considering they won't make any drastic changes. I don't disagree with you at all otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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