Nobody Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Makes you wonder why Anita goes hiding that often. Despite getting an amazing run of games and with the managers showing great belief in him. Especially after he's done well. He's had a solid number of games this season, often in decent runs and has looked poor. Nee excuse like (until Carver dropped him for Raylor). He's been poor this season no doubt. Tiote hasn't played since December - Anita has been next in line and he didn't really grab his chances. What? No he fucking hasn't He's played in 19 games in all competitions this season, his longest run of games was in January/February when he started five games in a row. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gorgeousgeorge Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Sunday was his best game in a toon shirt but not convinced he's the midfield answer like. Far to lightweight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 He was brilliant Sunday Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 He was brilliant Sunday I propose we form a two-member Vernon Anita fan club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 He was brilliant Sunday I propose we form a two-member Vernon Anita fan club. The club has shown a solid start being unable to spell his name. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Oh yeah, cheers. FWIW I haven't started printing the badges yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Sunday was his best game in a toon shirt but not convinced he's the midfield answer like. Far to lightweight Too lightweight if we are going to get dragged into aerial slugfests with a long ball team, but if we could somehow impose a possession game like the top teams do maybe he could thrive in that environment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Don't think any of the top teams have a Vurnon Anita equivalent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 He'd be brilliant for a team like Swansea, can't see us playing any decent football if we keep employing shite, behind-the-times English managers though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EthiGeordie Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Yes he was brilliant last Sunday but thats doesn't or shouldn't cover up his messed up game time. The clumsy tackle he made with in minutes at Etihad was still fresh in my mind. Overall I was very excited when he sign. I thought he would be he new Seedorf but he is at best squad player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Don't think any of the top teams have a Vurnon Anita equivalent. How big are Barcelona's centre midfielders? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimburst Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Joe Allen's done okay for himself in the role Vurnon plays. Probably less athletic than Anita, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Rakitic & Busquets are no midgets like. Fair to say if you are diminutive you have to excel in other areas. Anita doesn't excel in any areas. So mentioning Barcelona players is hilarious. Anita is to Xavi what Colback is to Scholes. Every great Newcastle United side had athletic, strong central midfielders or at the very least - real ballers (Cabaye). Anita is neither. It's not in our clubs DNA to play "possession" football. We might've dominated possession under SBR or Keegan but that wasn't to win the possession like a Martinez or Rodgers side. You have to play fast, dynamic football to keep the SJP crowd off your back. Forward passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ironically Anita is one of our most dynamic players. Also, I wonder how long a debate can last with everybody making the same arguments? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Glad TCD is here to point out that Anita isn't Xavi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Rakitic & Busquets are no midgets like. Fair to say if you are diminutive you have to excel in other areas. Anita doesn't excel in any areas. So mentioning Barcelona players is hilarious. Anita is to Xavi what Colback is to Scholes. Every great Newcastle United side had athletic, strong central midfielders or at the very least - real ballers (Cabaye). Anita is neither. It's not in our clubs DNA to play "possession" football. We might've dominated possession under SBR or Keegan but that wasn't to win the possession like a Martinez or Rodgers side. You have to play fast, dynamic football to keep the SJP crowd off your back. Forward passes. I did have my doubts about Anita's physical stature for the premier league, but I think the fact he's very quick across the ground helps cover for that. He makes less rash challenges than either Colback or Cabaye did as a result. He might not be the long term answer, but that's not necessarily because he's not big enough. I mean Ryan Taylor's bigger and taller but he's not much of a footballer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Ironically Anita is one of our most dynamic players. Also, I wonder how long a debate can last with everybody making the same arguments? TCD does a decent job of it on a daily basis tbf. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 Big Vern has always had fans on this forum, and certainly some bit of revisionism has gone on about how bad or ineffective he's been for us. The same posters are easily willing to blame the manager(s) and club apathy for other players' poor performances. Our most technically gifted midfielder and would absolutely shine under the right manager with the right vision. Since we have never had that, he's struggled sometimes but more often than not has played well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I stuck up for him for long periods but against Leicester in the FA Cup he didn't resemble a footballer at all. That was the day I eventually gave up on him. He'll never make it in the Premier League - I don't see what attribute he has that ever suggested he could make it here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I stuck up for him for long periods but against Leicester in the FA Cup he didn't resemble a footballer at all. That was the day I eventually gave up on him. He'll never make it in the Premier League - I don't see what attribute he has that ever suggested he could make it here. Did you write off the rest of the team then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andymc1 Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I stuck up for him for long periods but against Leicester in the FA Cup he didn't resemble a footballer at all. That was the day I eventually gave up on him. He'll never make it in the Premier League - I don't see what attribute he has that ever suggested he could make it here. Did you write off the rest of the team then? Nope. I've gave Riviere a few more chances since that day but he appears to be another that will never make it here. Anita has made 78 appearances for NUFC (according to Wiki) - at a guess I reckon you can count on one hand how many decent performances he's put in. I feel a bit sorry for him - having Alan Pardew in charge basically ruled out the chance of him affecting games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 How is he "technically gifted"? Decent first touch and he can move the ball faster than Colback. I've seen more technical ability on the ball from Jermaine Jenas - and he mostly passed it sideways too. "Technique" is such an empty word. Let's be specific. Beckham had great technique as did Xavi but in different ways. Having quick feet is technical as you have to manipulate the accurately at speed. A number of ways of striking a ball is technique. A number of ways of manipulating a ball in a pass/shot. Range of passing. Accurate passes under pressure. There's so much to it. Can't just go around throwing "technically gifted" at any player with a half decent first touch and can pass it decently 10 yards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 I'm not. I'm simply comparing attributes such as his first touch, balance, quickness of feet and passing, ability to accelerate from a stagnant position, winning the ball cleanly, willingness and ability to take players on and actually beat them from time to time, and his dynamism, in comparison to the other wankers we constantly play in his place. In fact, I'm sticking my neck on the line to say he's far more technically gifted than Ryan Taylor, Jonas, Colback or Gouffran, our midfield stalwarts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 How is he "technically gifted"? Decent first touch and he can move the ball faster than Colback. I've seen more technical ability on the ball from Jermaine Jenas - and he mostly passed it sideways too. "Technique" is such an empty word. Let's be specific. Beckham had great technique as did Xavi but in different ways. Having quick feet is technical as you have to manipulate the accurately at speed. A number of ways of striking a ball is technique. A number of ways of manipulating a ball in a pass/shot. Range of passing. Accurate passes under pressure. There's so much to it. Can't just go around throwing "technically gifted" at any player with a half decent first touch and can pass it decently 10 yards. How technically gifted do you have to be as a defensive midfielder? His main role would be to win the ball and move it quickly which he did very well on Sunday. That might also have been helped by us getting forward in numbers for the first time in ages in the second half. It makes pressing the ball a lot easier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 27, 2015 Share Posted May 27, 2015 How is he "technically gifted"? Decent first touch and he can move the ball faster than Colback. I've seen more technical ability on the ball from Jermaine Jenas - and he mostly passed it sideways too. "Technique" is such an empty word. Let's be specific. Beckham had great technique as did Xavi but in different ways. Having quick feet is technical as you have to manipulate the accurately at speed. A number of ways of striking a ball is technique. A number of ways of manipulating a ball in a pass/shot. Range of passing. Accurate passes under pressure. There's so much to it. Can't just go around throwing "technically gifted" at any player with a half decent first touch and can pass it decently 10 yards. How technically gifted do you have to be as a defensive midfielder? His main role would be to win the ball and move it quickly which he did very well on Sunday. That might also have been helped by us getting forward in numbers for the first time in ages in the second half. It makes pressing the ball a lot easier. Pressing. Another attribute I forgot to mention, which the likes of Raylor still haven't grasped the concept of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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