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Been said before but Anita's signing never made sense at the time and still doesn't.

 

Still think it was with one eye on selling Cabaye that summer of the right offer came in.

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Been said before but Anita's signing never made sense at the time and still doesn't.

 

Still think it was with one eye on selling Cabaye that summer of the right offer came in.

 

Maybe. But now that he has gone he's never looked like filling his boots sadly.

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Anyone remember that John Thompson football fan character in the Fast Show?

 

Oh my god! On the money. :lol:

 

"Soccer!"

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This is an utterly pointless thread at the moment like. Until he's played in a 3 under a competent manager there's no point in really discussing it, everything is hypothetical unless that happens. Until then it's just people going 'he's shit' and other people going 'he'd be good in a 3 under a decent manager' over and over but for the usual boring, horse shit dressed up as knowing better from TCD.

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This is an utterly pointless thread at the moment like. Until he's played in a 3 under a competent manager there's no point in really discussing it, everything is hypothetical unless that happens. Until then it's just people going 'he's shit' and other people going 'he'd be good in a 3 under a decent manager' over and over but for the usual boring, horse shit dressed up as knowing better from TCD.

 

It's not completely hypothetical given we have over 50 games of evidence which suggests he isn't good enough. Quality players have still impressed throughout this tragic era. Vurn hasn't.

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He's had his chances, he's not taken them.

 

while i'm tempted to agree i think we should not forget who he's been getting these chances under, pardew and carver, and the style of play and quality of coaching both display

 

if we get a decent manager playing a decent system in the summer and he still doesn't flourish then aye he's not taken his chances

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He's had his chances, he's not taken them.

 

while i'm tempted to agree i think we should not forget who he's been getting these chances under, pardew and carver, and the style of play and quality of coaching both display

 

if we get a decent manager playing a decent system in the summer and he still doesn't flourish then aye he's not taken his chances

 

The sensible and non dramatic way to look at things. By this point I thought most figured out the Pardew effect was real.

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Anita was given a minimal run and has signed for us when we've been turbo shit. He had a great run which was cut short by that World Class enforcer in Tiote.

 

Santon always ends up being one of better performing defenders when given a run into the side.

 

They've both shown potential and they aren't match winning players though it's not ever in their remit as far as Pardew was concerned. They are part of his don't make mistakes and keep it tight bunch.

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We conceded bucket loads during Anita's supposed "great run".

 

Santon has directly been responsible for more goals conceded than any of our defenders while he was playing. He's never shown the ability to consistently defend well without the LM holding his hand.

A deep-lying CM and fullback should be able to help "keep it tight".

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