Vurnon Anita (now playing for RKC Waalwijk)

[Kanj]

It should be Abeid and sissoko central with Abeid deeper and Moussa playing more box to box with De Jong advanced. We actually have a decent front 6 and fullbacks I am happy with. Front three with Cisse through the middle and Cabella and Aarons out wide. Possibly Ayoze roaring with Aarons but I think Ayoze would be best playing as a second striker with cisse and us going 442 but I think what we have available suits 433 even if it means Ayoze getting a bit less playing time. I don't think it will hamper his development if he doesn't start every game.

 

An on-form Aarons + Cabella + De Jong would be perfect ammo for Perez and Cisse.

[Guest Rustin Cohle]

He's garbage. Looked decent vs. Hull but that says more about Hull than it does about Anita.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He's garbage. Looked decent vs. Hull but that says more about Hull than it does about Anita.

 

Non.

[SEMTEX]

Your face is garbage.

[Smal]

ok

[Guest Rustin Cohle]

Your face is garbage.

 

Won't disagree.

[maybe_next_year]

I'm a member of the Anita fan club, but what's the point in playing him when were attempting head tennis in the land of the giants.

[Guest Recoba]

Invisible. Didn't notice he was on the pitch. Off the ball he is atrocious. Really looks like he vodnt give a fuck, or he is clueless about football.

[Twinport53]

Invisible. Didn't notice he was on the pitch. Off the ball he is atrocious. Really looks like he vodnt give a f***, or he is clueless about football.

 

You clearly just follow the football then, try watching how he occupies space and intercepts play. He regularly was the one who cut the ball out right on or even in the box and cleared the ball away, or started a move down the pitch.

 

Again, I would rather Abeid started over him and Colback, but what you have just posted is absolutely nonsensical.

[Guest Rent-A-Quote]

Just back in from the match. I love the trolls/mackems like Recoba and Rustin Cohle who clearly don't understand football.. All you have to do is watch him live and you will appreciate what he does. But they clearly don't go to matches or they wouldn't slag him off.

 

Oh, and he went off and we collapsed in midfield...coincidence?

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I thought he had one of his better games today, he only looks bad when a high ball comes towards him. We just have to accept that. He offered himself off the ball all the time and kept us ticking over well. He's very disciplined as well.

[Ronaldo]

If we're going to play with a front 3 on the counter im not sure what he's going to bring to the table.

 

This is exactly it. He's basically a good footballer but I do think his strengths and weaknesses are all wrong for the PL.

[r0cafella]

If we're going to play with a front 3 on the counter im not sure what he's going to bring to the table.

 

This is exactly it. He's basically a good footballer but I do think his strengths and weaknesses are all wrong for the PL.

Pretty much.

 

The only viable role for him as the anchor in midfield covering attacking central midfielders and marauding fullbacks only problem is he lacks the strength to impose himself in the role.

[loki679]

I'd have him ahead of Colback and Tiote but ultimately i'd hope we're looking to go 4-3-3 with Sissoko, Abeid and De Jong making up the midfield.

[Guest Rent-A-Quote]

Let's just forget we don't play a "front three", so we can pretend Anita doesn't fit in, eh? He's better than Colback and Tiote. The lad saying De Jong will ideally play there...what planet are they on? De Jong is not a central midfielder. De Jong is a number 10 who got played up front in Holland because it's an easier league.

 

So many delusions of grandeur. A front three...HA HA we are the most negative team in the league. We only play on the counter because we're negative in possession...players like Anita let you hold on to the ball and he doesn't hide like Colback the coward.

 

The only real problem people seem to have with Anita is he's not 'big enough' for the prem. Surely it's time we got away from these big cloggers who chop people down like Tiote and played people based on their footballing ability? He done well until he got hooked, for Cisse who did zero. No surpise the midfield got over-ran.

 

For me, it's Anita OR Colback and I'd pick Vurn every time. Vurn and Abeid central midfield pair. Sissoko is too undisciplined to play there and he's off soon anyway. De Jong will take his number 10 role and we'll go back to one up front, with Gouffran and Ameobi on the wings. Proper big lads.

[mrmojorisin75]

Let's just forget we don't play a "front three", so we can pretend Anita doesn't fit in, eh? He's better than Colback and Tiote. The lad saying De Jong will ideally play there...what planet are they on? De Jong is not a central midfielder. De Jong is a number 10 who got played up front in Holland because it's an easier league.

 

So many delusions of grandeur. A front three...HA HA we are the most negative team in the league. We only play on the counter because we're negative in possession...players like Anita let you hold on to the ball and he doesn't hide like Colback the coward.

 

The only real problem people seem to have with Anita is he's not 'big enough' for the prem. Surely it's time we got away from these big cloggers who chop people down like Tiote and played people based on their footballing ability? He done well until he got hooked, for Cisse who did zero. No surpise the midfield got over-ran.

 

For me, it's Anita OR Colback and I'd pick Vurn every time. Vurn and Abeid central midfield pair. Sissoko is too undisciplined to play there and he's off soon anyway. De Jong will take his number 10 role and we'll go back to one up front, with Gouffran and Ameobi on the wings. Proper big lads.

 

[The College Dropout]

You lost me at "doesn't hide". He does it frequently. He's good at helping out full backs but often lets CM runners jog past him. He doesn't make a big effort to show for the ball. His passing is fairly quick and crisp but not enough of them are forward. He doesn't even run forwards with the ball to get us up the pitch. He makes covering the pitch look like such hard work. He has zero presence in midfield. He'll not contest headers from the oppositions goal kicks or clearances giving the other team momentum. He's no better than Jack & Tiote.

 

We are a slow, small and weak team. It's awful to watch.

 

[mozy]

Let's just forget we don't play a "front three", so we can pretend Anita doesn't fit in, eh? He's better than Colback and Tiote. The lad saying De Jong will ideally play there...what planet are they on? De Jong is not a central midfielder. De Jong is a number 10 who got played up front in Holland because it's an easier league.

 

So many delusions of grandeur. A front three...HA HA we are the most negative team in the league. We only play on the counter because we're negative in possession...players like Anita let you hold on to the ball and he doesn't hide like Colback the coward.

 

The only real problem people seem to have with Anita is he's not 'big enough' for the prem. Surely it's time we got away from these big cloggers who chop people down like Tiote and played people based on their footballing ability? He done well until he got hooked, for Cisse who did zero. No surpise the midfield got over-ran.

 

For me, it's Anita OR Colback and I'd pick Vurn every time. Vurn and Abeid central midfield pair. Sissoko is too undisciplined to play there and he's off soon anyway. De Jong will take his number 10 role and we'll go back to one up front, with Gouffran and Ameobi on the wings. Proper big lads.

 

I agree with the majority of what you say, but to me, Anita is basically Joe Allen/Leon Britton. Unless we want to adopt a Swansea of old style of playing Barcelona football without the penetration, then he's not useful. Anita is far too safe with his passing and both him and Colback are guilty of cowardice in posession.

 

Colback's style of defending is to press regardless of who presses with him, while Anita sits and holds off. I'd say that sums them both up, Colback more forward thinking but not always to the benefit of the team, Anita's game is ruled by safety and unambition, and not making the most of his superior technique.

[Guest Rent-A-Quote]

You lost me at "doesn't hide". He does it frequently. He's good at helping out full backs but often lets CM runners jog past him. He doesn't make a big effort to show for the ball. His passing is fairly quick and crisp but not enough of them are forward. He doesn't even run forwards with the ball to get us up the pitch. He makes covering the pitch look like such hard work. He has zero presence in midfield. He'll not contest headers from the oppositions goal kicks or clearances giving the other team momentum. He's no better than Jack & Tiote.

 

We are a slow, small and weak team. It's awful to watch.

 

More strong big lads eh?

 

Well if you kept reading after 'doesn't hide' you will see it was followed by "like Colback the coward."

 

Which he doesn't from where I sit. Now I'll not childishly dismiss your post because it doesn't agree but I'll give you my reasons why, not just cliches.

 

He is told to stay back, it's obvious. There will be times when he shouldn't really take the ball, but he does. Sometimes he loses it, fair enough, but I can't have people saying he hides more than Colback. The same lot usually complain he loses the ball as he's 'weak in possession' how can he have possession if he's a coward who hides? It can't work both ways. The way it is made out like every ball he gets he loses and doesn't complete a pass. He's always on the move trying to create space. Not just hang back and hide behind players like Colback, who unbelievably has been given more license to go forward.

 

I'm sure with more movement in front of him and more license to go forward he would be better.

 

Getting to the point where his weaknesses are 'he doesn't contest goal kicks or punts' and 'no presence' (AKA not tall enough) is just desperation. His job is to get it and to give it to more talented players. If we had more than just Ayoze with good movement, maybe we would see more from him. OR if we defended as a team he wouldn't be hung out to dry as much? Football isn't all about goal kicks and clearances although after 4 years of Pardiola I can forgive you thinking it is.

 

We need to get away from these Cloggers, no surprise they're all English.

[Guest reefatoon]

You lost me at "doesn't hide". He does it frequently. He's good at helping out full backs but often lets CM runners jog past him. He doesn't make a big effort to show for the ball. His passing is fairly quick and crisp but not enough of them are forward. He doesn't even run forwards with the ball to get us up the pitch. He makes covering the pitch look like such hard work. He has zero presence in midfield. He'll not contest headers from the oppositions goal kicks or clearances giving the other team momentum. He's no better than Jack & Tiote.

 

We are a slow, small and weak team. It's awful to watch.

 

More strong big lads eh?

 

Well if you kept reading after 'doesn't hide' you will see it was followed by "like Colback the coward."

 

Which he doesn't from where I sit. Now I'll not childishly dismiss your post because it doesn't agree but I'll give you my reasons why, not just cliches.

 

He is told to stay back, it's obvious. There will be times when he shouldn't really take the ball, but he does. Sometimes he loses it, fair enough, but I can't have people saying he hides more than Colback. The same lot usually complain he loses the ball as he's 'weak in possession' how can he have possession if he's a coward who hides? It can't work both ways. The way it is made out like every ball he gets he loses and doesn't complete a pass. He's always on the move trying to create space. Not just hang back and hide behind players like Colback, who unbelievably has been given more license to go forward.

 

I'm sure with more movement in front of him and more license to go forward he would be better.

 

Getting to the point where his weaknesses are 'he doesn't contest goal kicks or punts' and 'no presence' (AKA not tall enough) is just desperation. His job is to get it and to give it to more talented players. If we had more than just Ayoze with good movement, maybe we would see more from him. OR if we defended as a team he wouldn't be hung out to dry as much? Football isn't all about goal kicks and clearances although after 4 years of Pardiola I can forgive you thinking it is.

 

We need to get away from these Cloggers, no surprise they're all English.

 

Your seat must be facing the wrong way then as he goes missing loads.

[Guest Rent-A-Quote]

Let's just forget we don't play a "front three", so we can pretend Anita doesn't fit in, eh? He's better than Colback and Tiote. The lad saying De Jong will ideally play there...what planet are they on? De Jong is not a central midfielder. De Jong is a number 10 who got played up front in Holland because it's an easier league.

 

So many delusions of grandeur. A front three...HA HA we are the most negative team in the league. We only play on the counter because we're negative in possession...players like Anita let you hold on to the ball and he doesn't hide like Colback the coward.

 

The only real problem people seem to have with Anita is he's not 'big enough' for the prem. Surely it's time we got away from these big cloggers who chop people down like Tiote and played people based on their footballing ability? He done well until he got hooked, for Cisse who did zero. No surpise the midfield got over-ran.

 

For me, it's Anita OR Colback and I'd pick Vurn every time. Vurn and Abeid central midfield pair. Sissoko is too undisciplined to play there and he's off soon anyway. De Jong will take his number 10 role and we'll go back to one up front, with Gouffran and Ameobi on the wings. Proper big lads.

 

I agree with the majority of what you say, but to me, Anita is basically Joe Allen/Leon Britton. Unless we want to adopt a Swansea of old style of playing Barcelona football without the penetration, then he's not useful. Anita is far too safe with his passing and both him and Colback are guilty of cowardice in posession.

 

Colback's style of defending is to press regardless of who presses with him, while Anita sits and holds off. I'd say that sums them both up, Colback more forward thinking but not always to the benefit of the team, Anita's game is ruled by safety and unambition, and not making the most of his superior technique.

 

I would take Joe Allen and Leon Brittan over Tiote and Colback every day of the week. Sorry, but I like the pass and move game. I don't like this punt it up to the lad who can't even hold it up so it bounces back and we have to squabble for it and hit a flukey goal. What you described is pretty much what I think; Anita is more disciplined, Colback just wings it. Both limited but wouldn't you rather the limited player who listens?

 

People need to realise of course I want a player better than Vurn, but at the minute, we're shite and we aren't going to attract central midfielders who do it all (We have one in Abeid, but he was nearly let go to Greece) so for me Vurn is the better long term choice for type of football and discipline.

[Guest Rent-A-Quote]

You lost me at "doesn't hide". He does it frequently. He's good at helping out full backs but often lets CM runners jog past him. He doesn't make a big effort to show for the ball. His passing is fairly quick and crisp but not enough of them are forward. He doesn't even run forwards with the ball to get us up the pitch. He makes covering the pitch look like such hard work. He has zero presence in midfield. He'll not contest headers from the oppositions goal kicks or clearances giving the other team momentum. He's no better than Jack & Tiote.

 

We are a slow, small and weak team. It's awful to watch.

 

More strong big lads eh?

 

Well if you kept reading after 'doesn't hide' you will see it was followed by "like Colback the coward."

 

Which he doesn't from where I sit. Now I'll not childishly dismiss your post because it doesn't agree but I'll give you my reasons why, not just cliches.

 

He is told to stay back, it's obvious. There will be times when he shouldn't really take the ball, but he does. Sometimes he loses it, fair enough, but I can't have people saying he hides more than Colback. The same lot usually complain he loses the ball as he's 'weak in possession' how can he have possession if he's a coward who hides? It can't work both ways. The way it is made out like every ball he gets he loses and doesn't complete a pass. He's always on the move trying to create space. Not just hang back and hide behind players like Colback, who unbelievably has been given more license to go forward.

 

I'm sure with more movement in front of him and more license to go forward he would be better.

 

Getting to the point where his weaknesses are 'he doesn't contest goal kicks or punts' and 'no presence' (AKA not tall enough) is just desperation. His job is to get it and to give it to more talented players. If we had more than just Ayoze with good movement, maybe we would see more from him. OR if we defended as a team he wouldn't be hung out to dry as much? Football isn't all about goal kicks and clearances although after 4 years of Pardiola I can forgive you thinking it is.

 

We need to get away from these Cloggers, no surprise they're all English.

 

Your seat must be facing the wrong way then as he goes missing loads.

 

Like when? When he has went missing and the rest of the team had to carry him? Why wasn't he subbed? Where is your seat?

[Guest reefatoon]

You lost me at "doesn't hide". He does it frequently. He's good at helping out full backs but often lets CM runners jog past him. He doesn't make a big effort to show for the ball. His passing is fairly quick and crisp but not enough of them are forward. He doesn't even run forwards with the ball to get us up the pitch. He makes covering the pitch look like such hard work. He has zero presence in midfield. He'll not contest headers from the oppositions goal kicks or clearances giving the other team momentum. He's no better than Jack & Tiote.

 

We are a slow, small and weak team. It's awful to watch.

 

More strong big lads eh?

 

Well if you kept reading after 'doesn't hide' you will see it was followed by "like Colback the coward."

 

Which he doesn't from where I sit. Now I'll not childishly dismiss your post because it doesn't agree but I'll give you my reasons why, not just cliches.

 

He is told to stay back, it's obvious. There will be times when he shouldn't really take the ball, but he does. Sometimes he loses it, fair enough, but I can't have people saying he hides more than Colback. The same lot usually complain he loses the ball as he's 'weak in possession' how can he have possession if he's a coward who hides? It can't work both ways. The way it is made out like every ball he gets he loses and doesn't complete a pass. He's always on the move trying to create space. Not just hang back and hide behind players like Colback, who unbelievably has been given more license to go forward.

 

I'm sure with more movement in front of him and more license to go forward he would be better.

 

Getting to the point where his weaknesses are 'he doesn't contest goal kicks or punts' and 'no presence' (AKA not tall enough) is just desperation. His job is to get it and to give it to more talented players. If we had more than just Ayoze with good movement, maybe we would see more from him. OR if we defended as a team he wouldn't be hung out to dry as much? Football isn't all about goal kicks and clearances although after 4 years of Pardiola I can forgive you thinking it is.

 

We need to get away from these Cloggers, no surprise they're all English.

 

Your seat must be facing the wrong way then as he goes missing loads.

 

Like when? When he has went missing and the rest of the team had to carry him? Why wasn't he subbed? Where is your seat?

 

He went missing yesterday, like so many other games. it's commendable how much you want to like him, but in all fairness, the lad has shown nothing to stand out and be picked in the first 11.  Just look at Abeid when he came in. He made an instant impact and impressed us all. When Anita comes in, you just don't notice at all, the games just seem to skip by him. I am not one for "cloggers" in either, but the lad just doesn't offer anything.

[The College Dropout]

He goes missing often man. Doesn't show for the ball. Take responsibility.

 

Our team is small and weak. We could do with a lad to hold the ball up a bit up top. And a genuinely powerful defender. I would love if Abeid could be our powerful defensive minded midfielder.

[Parky]

N'Zonzi made both of them look like idiots the whole match. Was everywhere, loads of ball contact and strode forward imperiously at will.