loki679 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Anyone who is calling for the manager to be sacked at this stage of the season, with the injuries/suspensions and resultant inability to be able to play our better players on the field together consistently, is a moron (and likely under 25). Aye, our only problems are due to injuries and suspensions, christ. Are you under 25, Mick? That might be true if you swapped the two digits around. Maybe. And double it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 That might be true if you swapped the two digits around. Maybe. That’s definitely closer to the truth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 And double it. Please, don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 There are plenty of indications from Pardew's record with other clubs that he has some ability. We're going through a bad patch, but that can happen in football and there's reasons to believe that he can turn it round. What I'm unsure about with Pardew is his ability to deliver a boot up the arse when it's needed. He comes across as a diplomat, and while that may have been fine when he joined the club in difficult circumstances, there are times when the iron fist is needed. Otherwise, he seems a clever and hard-working bloke. I'm sure he understands what's going wrong at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 There are plenty of indications from Pardew's record with other clubs that he has some ability. We're going through a bad patch, but that can happen in football and there's reasons to believe that he can turn it round. What I'm unsure about with Pardew is his ability to deliver a boot up the arse when it's needed. He comes across as a diplomat, and while that may have been fine when he joined the club in difficult circumstances, there are times when the iron fist is needed. Otherwise, he seems a clever and hard-working bloke. I'm sure he understands what's going wrong at the moment. He's done it here with Ben Arfa and Ranger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 There are plenty of indications from Pardew's record with other clubs that he has some ability. We're going through a bad patch, but that can happen in football and there's reasons to believe that he can turn it round. What I'm unsure about with Pardew is his ability to deliver a boot up the arse when it's needed. He comes across as a diplomat, and while that may have been fine when he joined the club in difficult circumstances, there are times when the iron fist is needed. Otherwise, he seems a clever and hard-working bloke. I'm sure he understands what's going wrong at the moment. He's done it here with Ben Arfa and Ranger. Well with Ranger, it's clearly been ineffective so far, and with Ben Arfa, I'd say it's been more a paternal arm-around-the-shoulder. The player who needed the boot was Ba, and I don't think it's happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well with Ranger, it's clearly been ineffective so far, and with Ben Arfa, I'd say it's been more a paternal arm-around-the-shoulder. The player who needed the boot was Ba, and I don't think it's happened. He slagged Ben Arfa off in the press, I don't know what, if anything was said face to face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Anyone who is calling for the manager to be sacked at this stage of the season, with the injuries/suspensions and resultant inability to be able to play our better players on the field together consistently, is a moron (and likely under 25). Sod off , just because some fans inept to see through what is good football and what a good manager is? Does not deviate me from me knowing what is good football. I am in my mid forties and is worried not to see us win something meaningful before i die. We all go through bad times in life and coup with it and when good times are around the corner we try to make it even better and prolong it. My experience tells me , we are in the good cycle now and we need to improve faster or when all the good things end and the cycle peaks we will rubber band the other way. The weakest link in the team now is the manager, if you don't see it that way fine but don't go insulting the those who feel that way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Well with Ranger, it's clearly been ineffective so far, and with Ben Arfa, I'd say it's been more a paternal arm-around-the-shoulder. The player who needed the boot was Ba, and I don't think it's happened. He slagged Ben Arfa off in the press, I don't know what, if anything was said face to face. I wouldn't have said that he 'slagged him off' at all. He gave him the message that he needed to improve some aspects of his game, but it was delivered in a constructive way, with every faith that he could eventually deliver. Where I don't think Pardew was strong enough was with characters who were throwing their weight around ie Ba and Barton. He didn't seem to want to confront them, and instead made all sorts of conciliatory noises in public, I suppose because he rated them as players and wanted to keep them on board. Despite Barton's ability, we've been better off without him, and I think the same may be true of Ba. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Just to add, i want managers to be replaced only at the end of the season if allowable, and would not mind him his stay till the end of the season. However many negative implications occur during the bad cycle, players wanting to leave , fans loosing moral, and tightening if the budget. Its not a wonder why good and rich clubs chop and change managers when they slump, the only difference is they go for recognize ones with track records most of the time. Essentially we are trying to do a Spurs now where we do a slow upgrade with players and Managers and hope to prolong the cycle. One mistake and setback is going take years to correct. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I like this new "You must be geet young if you're questioning the manager's position" thing, it's a proper condescending hoot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I like this new "You must be geet young if you're questioning the manager's position" thing, it's a proper condescending hoot. Get a few more years under your belt, son, and you might understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm 28, go away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm 28, go away. When I was 28 i'd already been supporting us for 30 years. You're 3 years above the cutoff for being allowed to express concerns anyway so shut your gob youngblood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I can say what I want you owld radgie. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 I'm 28, go away. When I was 28 i'd already been supporting us for 30 years. You're 3 years above the cutoff for being allowed to express concerns anyway so shut your gob youngblood. Fuck off back to FIFA and FM, Interpolic. *is 29 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 BRB, I'm just off to the shop for some stickers and a mix-up (Pardew out). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Just to add, i want managers to be replaced only at the end of the season if allowable, and would not mind him his stay till the end of the season. However many negative implications occur during the bad cycle, players wanting to leave , fans loosing moral, and tightening if the budget. everything else aside imo the best thing that could happen to football is a manager transfer window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 BRB, I'm just off to the shop for some stickers and a mix-up (Pardew out). get some cherry lips marra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 BRB, I'm just off to the shop for some stickers and a mix-up (Pardew out). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Use tactics that doesn't allow movement. Or just clueless failing to see the obvious and fix the problem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BONTEMPI Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Has it never dawned on him to pour over the videos of last season when we did so well? I'd probably imagine the plank had them all edited so now it just shows shots of him in the touchline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest malandro Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Is anyone actually saying he should be sacked? I think he's craperage but if we sacked him he'd no doubt be replaced with somebody else who has done nothing to warrant a chance at a club of NUFCs stature. Better the devil crap you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Is anyone actually saying he should be sacked? I think he's craperage but if we sacked him he'd no doubt be replaced with somebody else who has done nothing to warrant a chance at a club of NUFCs stature. Better the devil crap you know. I am, but still unsure somehow as only god knows who we would replace him with. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Is anyone actually saying he should be sacked? I think he's craperage but if we sacked him he'd no doubt be replaced with somebody else who has done nothing to warrant a chance at a club of NUFCs stature. Better the devil crap you know. I am, but still unsure somehow as only god knows who we would replace him with. Joe Kinnea again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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