Mole_Toonfan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Pretty obvious why he said it, if you say you are struggling with cash instead of acting like you are loaded you will be stronger when it comes to negotiations.... Barca are masters of it, i remember in the summer they signed Cesc that they said they only had 30m to spend and gradually brought the price down. I'd rather Pardew say things like money is tight than we brag about how much money we have tbh. Aye, but Barca are Barca and might have said one thing and then done another. We say we're poor and act like it. I know there's a massive difference i was just using it as an example, point is we are more likely to get the likes of Remy for the price we want if we don't get arrogant in the press. I wouldn't take anything from it tbh, means nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Pretty obvious why he said it, if you say you are struggling with cash instead of acting like you are loaded you will be stronger when it comes to negotiations.... Barca are masters of it, i remember in the summer they signed Cesc that they said they only had 30m to spend and gradually brought the price down. I'd rather Pardew say things like money is tight than we brag about how much money we have tbh. Aye, but Barca are Barca and might have said one thing and then done another. We say we're poor and act like it. so true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Tbf it doesn't mean we want to hoof.... For one thing he mentioned pace and no hoofball merchant is pacey..... Odd thing to say. Name a target man around who is quick, Drogba was the only one in recent years and he had much more to his game than your standard target man. Lukaku and Benteke, just off the top off my head. Lukaku is not that quick. Not sure if he's any quicker than Cisse, really. Don't be fooled by his frame! That guy can motor trust me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Just heard Pardew talking on the radio. Given the financial ramifications of going down it would be absurd if they deemed it too expensive to bring in both a striker and centre back this windown. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Just heard Pardew talking on the radio. Given the financial ramifications of going down it would be absurd if they deemed it too expensive to bring in both a striker and centre back this windown. What did he say then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Just heard Pardew talking on the radio. Given the financial ramifications of going down it would be absurd if they deemed it too expensive to bring in both a striker and centre back this windown. He's right but we knew all this in the summer.... why we didn't get a CB and RB at the very very least after finishing 5th was a utter joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/blog/2013/jan/03/alan-pardew-newcastle-manager Why Alan Pardew seems safe despite Newcastle's nightmare season The Magpies have lost nine of their last 11 league games, but there are no calls for the manager's head. There are plenty of good reasons Louise Taylor The Guardian, Thursday 3 January 2013 21.59 GMT Jump to comments (12) As Alan Pardew acknowledges, his Newcastle United side's run of nine defeats in their last 11 Premier League games is "awful" but despite relegation worries and the impending departure of leading scorer Demba Ba to Chelsea, there are no calls for the manager's head on Tyneside, no talk of 'crisis'. Although very much at odds with the club's turbulent image, such understanding is perhaps explained by the healthy stock of plausible answers to almost every question asked of Pardew's regime. Why are fans not protesting? A few boos greeted the final whistle when Newcastle were beaten 2-1 by Everton – on Wednesday but generally supporters recognise that Pardew has been undone by a series of injuries to key players including Hatem Ben Arfa and Yohan Cabaye. Allied to a lack of necessary investment last summer and Europa League-induced fatigue, it is a toxic mix. "Our fans are more knowledgeable than they're given credit for," says Pardew. "They've been very patient and we appreciate that. When you look at the teams we're putting out and the team we could put out they're a million miles apart. We're in an unprecedented year in terms of the blows we've taken. I think you start getting questions asked if you get injury after injury in training, but we haven't had that. We've had injuries in games where people are stretched." What about Pardew's ego? In his younger days the current LMA manager of the year could be a bit brash and full of himself, but he really does seem to have changed. These days his ego is well disguised, his words carefully measured and he works assiduously on the training pitch, devoting hours to meticulously detailed coaching and individual chats. He is virtually the only manager to have handled Ben Arfa successfully and the majority of an extremely diverse, multinational and multicultural squad respect and like him. Are there enough British players in the dressing room? There have possibly been times recently when the Spanish-speaking captain Fabricio Coloccini has struggled to make himself fully heard in a predominantly French-speaking dressing room dominated by Cabaye and the departing Ba. Overall, though, morale appears surprisingly good. Local boys Shola Ameobi and Steven Taylor are powerful, positive influences, the squad enjoy regular international theme days and Newcastle's Muslim players are comfortable with praying at a training ground far less laddish than in previous eras. "Everyone's working hard for each other and it's just little things that are going wrong," says the goalkeeper, Tim Krul. "Last year everything went for us, this year we're getting smacked in the face. We're in a massive battle now but the manager has shown trust in us; that trust is very important to us and we want to repay him." Why are they playing so many long balls and how can Mathieu Debuchy fit in? Pardew's mantra last season was "rhythmic passing" but this autumn Newcastle hit more long passes than any other Premier League side. It is partly explained by the fact that, since August, Cabaye and Cheik Tioté - now away at the Africa Cup of Nations - have barely played together in a central midfield they once controlled and deliveries from defence have often been poor. Pardew trusts the France right-back, a £5.5m arrival from Lille, will rectify matters. "Debuchy will improve our distribution," he says. "It was a difficult conversation to explain our situation to him. He thought we were going to be top eight but he understands that if we can get our best team out, there's no doubt we've got a great side." Is Pardew's eight-year contract keeping him in a job? No. It is understood that dismissal would guarantee Newcastle's manager one year's salary but Derek Llambias, the club's managing director, has said he is "entitled to a bad season" and there is an acknowledgement that the squad was not bolstered adequately last summer. "Money's tight here," says Pardew who really needs a new centre half as well as Ba's attacking successor. "But of course Mike [Ashley, the club's owner] has been supportive – and he has to be even more supportive in this window to find the extra money we need to replace Demba." Even so, Pardew will not want to test Ashley's patience by losing forthcoming games against Norwich City, Reading and Aston Villa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Good read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It is understood that dismissal would guarantee Newcastle's manager one year's salary That bit in particular is interesting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Just noticed, it's Louise Taylor though.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
binnsy Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 that must be one of the best things Louise Taylor has ever written! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Louise clearly gagging for a piece of Pards. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It is understood that dismissal would guarantee Newcastle's manager one year's salary That bit in particular is interesting. It was interesting about two weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 It is understood that dismissal would guarantee Newcastle's manager one year's salary That bit in particular is interesting. It was interesting about two weeks ago Oh fuck, I've been Giggsed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 the bit in that article about long ball is utter bullshit, as if debuchy is the key that suddenly turns us into a passing team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Eggenberger Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Thats what he told cabaye "with you, everything changes" http://www.hoofball.co.nz/Images/DSC05539_websize.JPG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/289496/Alan-Pardew-needs-to-sort-out-player-war-before-Newcaslte-blow-up-warns-Malcolm-Macdonald/ ALAN PARDEW NEEDS TO SORT OUT PLAYER WAR BEFORE NEWCASLTE BLOW UP WARNS MALCOLM MACDONALD Macdonald said: “I’m just telling it as I see it and it’s like a slow-motion car crash before my eyes. “There’s no communication on the pitch. Players aren’t looking out for each other. There’s no team spirit. “Okay, people who disagree will say Newcastle played well against Man City. Yes, they did and got beaten 3-1. “You can play all the best football you want and still get relegated. If Newcastle don’t snap themselves out of this dreadful situation my worry is that they will get relegated. “They must put arguments aside and go about the job in a professional way. Put the club and the supporters first and not their squabbles. “Newcastle have Man United, Arsenal and Everton coming up – three of the top six. If they don’t buck up their ideas by the time January comes around they’ll be looking to bring in players. “But they are not going to get the quality they need because players will look at the league table and say, ‘I’m not joining you, you’re going down’. “It’s like a disease eating away at the club and it’s spreading like wildfire. “It’s a nightmare. Excuses are being made without people pin-pointing what’s really gone wrong. “It seems to me as if there’s a battle going on between the French and Spanish - speaking players. “I’m seeing things on the pitch which don’t add up. I saw Gutierrez come in from wide left into centre midfield and stand by Cabaye as if he was man-to-man marking. “Cabaye gestured to get back to the left and Gutierrez ignored him. So Cabaye just shrugged his shoulders and went out to play on the left. “That was the first indication that something was seriously wrong. “I’m just seeing people not getting on. “You don’t have to like each other. But you go out on that pitch and treat everyone the same. “When you have a dressing room situation, the first things to suffer are results and performances. And Newcastle’s have been dreadful. “One or two players are looking around thinking, ‘What the hell is going on?’ “Ben Arfa looks like he’s getting sick and tired of it all. He’s not joining either camp but is obviously upset with the situation. “The divide is complicated but it’s cutting the cake into slices. It’s totally damaging. “The manager has got to sit down with the players and get it sorted. But he’s got one hell of a situation on his hands. “How do you mend it? You need people wanting to work together. Just one look at the table tells you how serious it is. It’s there for all to see.” Some interesting stuff , am I putting that on the wrong topic ? Spoke to someone in my local this evening who knows Steve Harper. Harper basically told him similar to MacDonald's quotes above - French and Spanish speakers not getting on, and Ba just does whatever the f*** he wants. Also reckoned the French in our sqaud were really unhappy that Debuchy didn't arrive. In a corner of Newcastle United's training ground canteen four players sit playing cards, seemingly oblivious to the world around them. For Jonás Gutiérrez, Fabricio Coloccini, Xisco and Davide Santon shuffling, dealing and trumping forms a regular post-lunch ritual, a chance to temporarily forget about the team's poor form and share a few jokes in Spanish. "Davide's Italian but our languages are not so different and we understand each other," says Gutiérrez in near flawless English. "It's not like French – we have a lot of French speakers in our dressing room but I don't really understand a word. It doesn't matter though because I talk to most of the lads in English – except Xisco; he only speaks Spanish." That's from the Jonas article. Kind of goes with what MacDonald was saying. Xisco has never done anything but none of the other 3 are performing well at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 If you look at the latest poll figures on here, those who have either voted that they are losing faith with Pardew or that they never had much in the first place, together come to 81%.... That is massively at odds with Taylor's assertion that the fans are basically happy with the manager. The truth is that most fans are resigned to the fact that Ashley is always going to be hesitant to strengthen the side WHEN MOST NEEDED, and that they know that he is unlikely to get the type of manager we need, hence no protest because it wouldn't achieve anything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 internet people on here vs. the average fan is something totally different if you ask me like, work with kid who's been going to the match since was 3 and he's got nothing bad to say about pardew whatsoever like, all the blame is on the part of injuries and ashley beggars belief like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Tbf it doesn't mean we want to hoof.... For one thing he mentioned pace and no hoofball merchant is pacey..... Odd thing to say. Name a target man around who is quick, Drogba was the only one in recent years and he had much more to his game than your standard target man. Lukaku and Benteke, just off the top off my head. Lukaku is not that quick. Not sure if he's any quicker than Cisse, really. Don't be fooled by his frame! That guy can motor trust me. I watched WBA play Fulham the other night and whilst they lost, they caused Fulham all sorts of problems in the second half, and Lukaku was behind much of this with his mobility and holding of the ball. It was a game well worth watching and tons better than most of the rubbish we have served up this season because WBA ran so well off the ball that they always had plenty of attacking options. Berbatov had a great game for Fulham too, basically down to him that they won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Not my favourite person at the moment and frankly I've just about had enough of him, but Christ he looked so bloody handsome in his presser yesterday afternoon. A very good looking man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yorkie Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I do subconsciously root for a manager if they're well dressed on the touchline. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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