AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W on stunning form today. Can't wait till Interpolic gets his gegs on and has a look Until recently I thought it was Wullie and Toon's Taylor who were my main nemeses. Is that a word? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 From the outside it's understandable that people think calling for his sacking is crazy. In normal circumstances everyone would leap to the defence of a manager who was sacked for one bad season after one exceptional one. We would probably be doing the same if another club was in question. That doesn't mean people calling for his head are necessarily wrong, but I can see what it would look like. Of course you understand it, you agree with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 its obvious those that back Pardew lack understanding of the game of football. Not blaming them, all they want is results , thats why Man U have so many fans that don't know a thing about the game. Glory hunters? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W on stunning form today. Can't wait till Interpolic gets his gegs on and has a look Until recently I thought it was Wullie and Toon's Taylor who were my main nemeses. Is that a word? Most people are lucky to get one nemesis, Ian Greedy b******d ! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Tell you what, even though i don't think the guy is dumb, I'm still certain that Jonas will be starting this weekend and that quite frankly is incomprehensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Spine Rip. F, D, F, LP. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 From the outside it's understandable that people think calling for his sacking is crazy. In normal circumstances everyone would leap to the defence of a manager who was sacked for one bad season after one exceptional one. We would probably be doing the same if another club was in question. That doesn't mean people calling for his head are necessarily wrong, but I can see what it would look like. Of course you understand it, you agree with it. Well yeah, in a way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W on stunning form today. Can't wait till Interpolic gets his gegs on and has a look Until recently I thought it was Wullie and Toon's Taylor who were my main nemeses. Is that a word? Most people are lucky to get one nemesis, Ian Greedy b******d ! http://www.broadbenterprise.com/illustration_images/bricktop.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Whey it's true isn't it? Generally we would be slating Liverpool or Sunderland fans if they were after sacking a manager in this manner. Sunderland and Liverpool have rightly sacked more successful managers than Pardew lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W, bless you, I love the way you try to put your pro Pardew view across while trying your hardest to make it look like you are sitting on the fence about it. You have your views and that is fine with me, I just like the way you try to brush it off as you are not bothered either way while trying to defend him. I am pro-Pardew in that I think he has some good attributes and my opinion right now is that I wouldn't sack him for that reason and others not to do with him personally. That's not sitting on the fence, that's a position that it takes a bit of intelligence to understand. Better chat today anyway How utterly condescending, nice one. You go on like that and then you have the gall to moan and say the place has degenerated when people say "I told you so" after a fucking hammering off the mackems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Flash Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Whey it's true isn't it? Generally we would be slating Liverpool or Sunderland fans if they were after sacking a manager in this manner. Sunderland and Liverpool have rightly sacked more successful managers than Pardew lately. Everybody (outside of Liverpool fans) was counting the days till Dalglish went, even though he got them to 2 cup finals (winning 1) and finished 8th. Maybe they should have kept him for stability Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W, bless you, I love the way you try to put your pro Pardew view across while trying your hardest to make it look like you are sitting on the fence about it. You have your views and that is fine with me, I just like the way you try to brush it off as you are not bothered either way while trying to defend him. I am pro-Pardew in that I think he has some good attributes and my opinion right now is that I wouldn't sack him for that reason and others not to do with him personally. That's not sitting on the fence, that's a position that it takes a bit of intelligence to understand. Better chat today anyway How utterly condescending, nice one. You go on like that and then you have the gall to moan and say the place has degenerated when people say "I told you so" after a fucking hammering off the mackems. Well how long should I explain and re-explain the same position? Honestly couldn't think of any other way to put it Obviously some people are ignoring it on purpose, which is fair enough I suppose. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W, bless you, I love the way you try to put your pro Pardew view across while trying your hardest to make it look like you are sitting on the fence about it. You have your views and that is fine with me, I just like the way you try to brush it off as you are not bothered either way while trying to defend him. I am pro-Pardew in that I think he has some good attributes and my opinion right now is that I wouldn't sack him for that reason and others not to do with him personally. That's not sitting on the fence, that's a position that it takes a bit of intelligence to understand. Better chat today anyway How utterly condescending, nice one. You go on like that and then you have the gall to moan and say the place has degenerated when people say "I told you so" after a fucking hammering off the mackems. He thinks he's so fucking clever doesn't he? Its all I got when we last spoke. Idiot, child, stupid, don't understand, then has a nerve to cry when someone calls him gullible. Wonder if he's threatened to walk away from the forum today, that's usually part of the repertoire. Edit: Anyway, I should stay away from this place at the moment because no other views are welcome. I know this but I keep getting sucked back in. Apologies. http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7a39oFagQ1r177ato1_r1_cover.png Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W, bless you, I love the way you try to put your pro Pardew view across while trying your hardest to make it look like you are sitting on the fence about it. You have your views and that is fine with me, I just like the way you try to brush it off as you are not bothered either way while trying to defend him. I am pro-Pardew in that I think he has some good attributes and my opinion right now is that I wouldn't sack him for that reason and others not to do with him personally. That's not sitting on the fence, that's a position that it takes a bit of intelligence to understand. Better chat today anyway How utterly condescending, nice one. You go on like that and then you have the gall to moan and say the place has degenerated when people say "I told you so" after a fucking hammering off the mackems. Well how long should I explain and re-explain the same position? Obviously some people are ignoring it on purpose, which is fair enough I suppose. Why don't you tell us what his good attributes are? You're happy to pour consistent scorn on the opinions of others yet I've never heard you explain exactly what it is about "Pards" that you like so much. I've had my say on tactics, coaching, fitness, the utter shit he talks 100% of the time etc. The floor is yours. Why, in your opinion, is he the man to get NUFC playing exciting and successful football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 N-O rocks. Where else do posters get to have their own personal nemesis'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 That Simon Bird article is thoroughly depressing. Many will completely buy it too. The defence? Journalist cliché bingo and plausible deniability. - "Stability" - as though that ever, in and of itself, helped any club - "Manager of the year" - a largely meaningless accolade - "Ruling himself out of the England job 12 months ago" - meaningless attribute for a manager - Last season - a commendable finish for the club, but not down to Pardew exclusively or even significantly* but most importantly he didn't demonstrate any attributes which will help us progress going forwards - which is the only factor which matters when you're looking at whether to keep him for next season * - argument done to death/won't revisit! - The David Moyes example - just plain irrelevant tripe He has no outstanding managerial attributes, and you'd struggle to argue he has even average attributes in important areas. There is no good reason to keep him or be patient with him based on the evidence available IMO. You may not have faith in who Ashley would appoint next, but I'd rather gamble on an unknown than slowly circle the drain as we will continue with our known quantity of Pardew. [Could you even imagine what would happen if he we were ever to reach a cup final (our only vaguely realistic hope of winning something)? Could you imagine how conservatively he'd play it? How much he'd concentrate on the opposition in advance of the final? How little he'd give them to worry about us? Cisse would be revising the attacking threat of their centre-backs for four out of the five days leading up to the final ] He's not even close to being good enough to match the ambitions of the club,... but then again maybe he does meet the ambitions of the decision-makers and certain fans who will endure and pay for anything they are served up. That was a cracking post btw beren Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 N-O rocks. Where else do posters get to have their own personal nemesis'? Tbh i don't understand why some are taking things so personally but hey ho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 Ian W, bless you, I love the way you try to put your pro Pardew view across while trying your hardest to make it look like you are sitting on the fence about it. You have your views and that is fine with me, I just like the way you try to brush it off as you are not bothered either way while trying to defend him. I am pro-Pardew in that I think he has some good attributes and my opinion right now is that I wouldn't sack him for that reason and others not to do with him personally. That's not sitting on the fence, that's a position that it takes a bit of intelligence to understand. Better chat today anyway How utterly condescending, nice one. You go on like that and then you have the gall to moan and say the place has degenerated when people say "I told you so" after a fucking hammering off the mackems. Well how long should I explain and re-explain the same position? Obviously some people are ignoring it on purpose, which is fair enough I suppose. Why don't you tell us what his good attributes are? You're happy to pour consistent scorn on the opinions of others yet I've never heard you explain exactly what it is about "Pards" that you like so much. I've had my say on tactics, coaching, fitness, the utter shit he talks 100% of the time etc. The floor is yours. Why, in your opinion, is he the man to get NUFC playing exciting and successful football? I don't pour scorn on anyone's opinions, in fact that's exactly what I try not to do. It just gets tiring trying to explain the same position again and again and dispel myths about my views all the time. Sometimes I get dragged into the wrong sort of debate I suppose. I'm not sure it's worth me listing any positive points, but they include stuff like being able to work with the board, being liked by the players, having achieved a decent amount last season, being generally a professional figurehead for the club (less so when under pressure I admit). Also a lack of desire to get back on the managerial merry-go-round. But we have discussed those to death already and I know you'll just laugh at them. I don't necessarily think he will get us playing exciting football, I don't think I've ever argued that. But he might get us playing football that is generally solid but produces enough exciting moments to make a good season. Anyway, in general I think you're a really sound poster but I wish we could have a normal chat without it getting antsy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 N-O rocks. Where else do posters get to have their own personal nemesis'? Tbh i don't understand why some are taking things so personally but hey ho Me neither. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 He's still going to be here next season, isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 N-O rocks. Where else do posters get to have their own personal nemesis'? Tbh i don't understand why some are taking things so personally but hey ho Me neither. Nobody likes an optimist, Ian Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 He's still going to be here next season, isn't he? Probably aye, hopefully that means we've stayed up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 He's still going to be here next season, isn't he? Probably aye, hopefully that means we've stayed up. The only reason i'd definitely keep him is if we went down! Don't think we could do much better tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm not sure it's worth me listing any positive points, but they include stuff like being able to work with the board, being liked by the players, having achieved a decent amount last season, being generally a professional figurehead for the club (less so when under pressure I admit). Pretty much any manager in the entire football league is capable of those things. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 23, 2013 Share Posted April 23, 2013 I'm not sure it's worth me listing any positive points, but they include stuff like being able to work with the board, being liked by the players, having achieved a decent amount last season, being generally a professional figurehead for the club (less so when under pressure I admit). Pretty much any manager in the entire football league is capable of those things. In theory they should be, but in practice definitely not the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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