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ah the good old days of PK  you changed my mind ronnie. i do want fat fred back.

 

the thing is nowhe's got nowhere near the financial clout to compete. Ashley does however, but long term he is doing the right thing. It's just not as immediately exciting as those days

 

i remember transfer rumours back in them days were always very exciting to be fair.  nowadays, its like ok he plays in france.

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I still dread the days of under fat Fred though.  Sure we had some success.  But it was still madness.

 

I'd have it back now.

 

Really? They were some good times to be fair,  spunked a lot of money on fatties like kluivert and such but wasn't all bad.

 

Whilst Ashley's plan is far more sustainable long term, it would be decent to see Fat Fred spunking loads of cash on Mourinho/Falcoa etc. But yeah like you say Ashley's is more sustainable. Just nice to be a force at times.

 

I like it that we don't spent silly money for players that are past it or just want to join for money. Also, to only go for players that have the right age seems right to me.

 

Still, think exceptions should be made.

 

For example, I think we should have gone for Berbatov the moment he stated his desire to leave Man Utd. How much was it? 8 million? Top, top player. Can carry a team on his own at times.

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ah the good old days of PK  you changed my mind ronnie. i do want fat fred back.

 

Not trying to change anybody's mind, just Kluivert's a very poor example of what you're trying to convey about the FS era. Kluivert was a very good footballer and getting him was an astute piece of business given his pedigree and what we needed at the time - a replacement for Shearer. He could and should have been a success here.

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ah the good old days of PK  you changed my mind ronnie. i do want fat fred back.

 

Not trying to change anybody's mind, just Kluivert's a very poor example of what you're trying to convey about the FS era. Kluivert was a very good footballer and getting him was an astute piece of business given his pedigree and what we needed at the time - a replacement for Shearer. He could and should have been a success here.

 

i know what you're trying to say Ron, he may not be the best example, but i class him as one of many trophy signings under fat fred. one to please the fans to cover his own ass.  Trophy signings that clearly joined because we were offering the highest wage packet at the time.

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I still dread the days of under fat Fred though.  Sure we had some success.  But it was still madness.

 

I'd have it back now.

 

Really? They were some good times to be fair,  spunked a lot of money on fatties like kluivert and such but wasn't all bad.

 

Whilst Ashley's plan is far more sustainable long term, it would be decent to see Fat Fred spunking loads of cash on Mourinho/Falcoa etc. But yeah like you say Ashley's is more sustainable. Just nice to be a force at times.

 

I like it that we don't spent silly money for players that are past it or just want to join for money. Also, to only go for players that have the right age seems right to me.

 

Still, think exceptions should be made.

 

For example, I think we should have gone for Berbatov the moment he stated his desire to leave Man Utd. How much was it? 8 million? Top, top player. Can carry a team on his own at times.

 

£4.4m, no perceived sell-on fee though ain't it :anguish:

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I still dread the days of under fat Fred though.  Sure we had some success.  But it was still madness.

 

I'd have it back now.

 

Really? They were some good times to be fair,  spunked a lot of money on fatties like kluivert and such but wasn't all bad.

 

Whilst Ashley's plan is far more sustainable long term, it would be decent to see Fat Fred spunking loads of cash on Mourinho/Falcoa etc. But yeah like you say Ashley's is more sustainable. Just nice to be a force at times.

 

I like it that we don't spent silly money for players that are past it or just want to join for money. Also, to only go for players that have the right age seems right to me.

 

Still, think exceptions should be made.

 

For example, I think we should have gone for Berbatov the moment he stated his desire to leave Man Utd. How much was it? 8 million? Top, top player. Can carry a team on his own at times.

 

Can carry a team at times but also a passenger a lot of times.  I like him too, but another player that couldnt look more like a fish out of water under the style of Pardew's team.

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I still dread the days of under fat Fred though.  Sure we had some success.  But it was still madness.

 

I'd have it back now.

 

Really? They were some good times to be fair,  spunked a lot of money on fatties like kluivert and such but wasn't all bad.

 

Whilst Ashley's plan is far more sustainable long term, it would be decent to see Fat Fred spunking loads of cash on Mourinho/Falcoa etc. But yeah like you say Ashley's is more sustainable. Just nice to be a force at times.

 

I like it that we don't spent silly money for players that are past it or just want to join for money. Also, to only go for players that have the right age seems right to me.

 

Still, think exceptions should be made.

 

For example, I think we should have gone for Berbatov the moment he stated his desire to leave Man Utd. How much was it? 8 million? Top, top player. Can carry a team on his own at times.

 

Our record of signing Man Utd players is a poor one tbf.

 

Smith, Butt and Obertan. :scared:

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I still dread the days of under fat Fred though.  Sure we had some success.  But it was still madness.

 

I'd have it back now.

 

Really? They were some good times to be fair,  spunked a lot of money on fatties like kluivert and such but wasn't all bad.

 

Whilst Ashley's plan is far more sustainable long term, it would be decent to see Fat Fred spunking loads of cash on Mourinho/Falcoa etc. But yeah like you say Ashley's is more sustainable. Just nice to be a force at times.

 

I like it that we don't spent silly money for players that are past it or just want to join for money. Also, to only go for players that have the right age seems right to me.

 

Still, think exceptions should be made.

 

For example, I think we should have gone for Berbatov the moment he stated his desire to leave Man Utd. How much was it? 8 million? Top, top player. Can carry a team on his own at times.

 

Our record of signing Man Utd players is a poor one tbf.

 

Smith, Butt and Obertan. :scared:

 

Not to forget everyone's favourite full-back...

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ah the good old days of PK  you changed my mind ronnie. i do want fat fred back.

 

Not trying to change anybody's mind, just Kluivert's a very poor example of what you're trying to convey about the FS era. Kluivert was a very good footballer and getting him was an astute piece of business given his pedigree and what we needed at the time - a replacement for Shearer. He could and should have been a success here.

 

He was overweight, over paid and over here just to top up his pension. Surely just the type of player we didn't need then, and will never be interested in again under the current regime.

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ah the good old days of PK  you changed my mind ronnie. i do want fat fred back.

 

Not trying to change anybody's mind, just Kluivert's a very poor example of what you're trying to convey about the FS era. Kluivert was a very good footballer and getting him was an astute piece of business given his pedigree and what we needed at the time - a replacement for Shearer. He could and should have been a success here.

 

He was overweight, over paid and over here just to top up his pension. Surely just the type of player we didn't need then, and will never be interested in again under the current regime.

 

yep exactly, another pie eater like viduka.

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Agree with Ronaldo regarding Kluivert.

 

So do I, if it wasn't for appointing Souness he could have been brilliant for us.

 

At that stage in Shearer's career, when Kluivert played up front with Bellamy they were just on another planet to what Shearer could do, he was completely immobile.

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At that stage in Shearer's career, when Kluivert played up front with Bellamy they were just on another planet to what Shearer could do, he was completely immobile.

 

And Souness got him (Shearer) to sign another contract just so that he could break the club scoring record.  :lol:

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Bobby Robson was quite happy to sign Kluivert, it would have been interesting to see how he'd have used him, although by then Bobby was losing control of the squad to some degree and Shearer wasn't happy about Kluivert threatening his position much.

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There has been criticism of the tactics. Pardew got rid of the 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 formations that brought them success last season and deployed a more fashionable 4-2-3-1.

The major problem is, it does not seem to work. Mainly because Papiss Cisse – their only fit specialist striker – is not comfortable as a lone frontman and Hatem Ben Arfa, the squad’s only natural No 10, has been injured.

But there are also issues with other players being used out of position, including central midfielder Moussa Sissoko, who has been asked to play in a more attacking role behind Cisse since arriving from Toulouse.

 

From The Luke Edwards article above. There's definitely some journos getting a bit antsy with 4 games to go.

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There has been criticism of the tactics. Pardew got rid of the 4-4-2 and 4-3-3 formations that brought them success last season and deployed a more fashionable 4-2-3-1.

The major problem is, it does not seem to work. Mainly because Papiss Cisse – their only fit specialist striker – is not comfortable as a lone frontman and Hatem Ben Arfa, the squad’s only natural No 10, has been injured.

But there are also issues with other players being used out of position, including central midfielder Moussa Sissoko, who has been asked to play in a more attacking role behind Cisse since arriving from Toulouse.

 

From The Luke Edwards article above. There's definitely some journos getting a bit antsy with 4 games to go.

 

a bit fucking late arent they? these articles should have been up many months ago.

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