David28 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Any post match quotes? "It was a magnificent effort," Pardew said. "It was important to our fans and we showed how important it is to us. An hour with 10 men, we couldn't hold on to the lead, if we did it would have been one of the greatest victories here ever. "We were the better team before the sending off. At first, I didn't think it was that bad, but looking at it again, I can't have too many complaints." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Obertan for Hatem was f***ing daft, Ba was blatantly flagging after some hard, hard graft on his own and needed to go off. I presume the idea was for Obertan to use his pace to exploit their high-line. Obertan, however, showed no attacking intent whatsoever. All he did was play everyone onside for their goal... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Obertan for Hatem was f***ing daft, Ba was blatantly flagging after some hard, hard graft on his own and needed to go off. I presume the idea was for Obertan to use his pace to exploit their high-line. Obertan, however, showed no attacking intent whatsoever. All he did was play everyone onside for their goal... Offside doesn't work that way anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ignoring the result, we have been awful all season long and hoofing clearly is not working we need to sort it out. Our points total at the moment is simply not good enough, just so poor. We've been poor but I fully expect us to pick up with Krul, Colo and Saylor back, that's the heart of our team right there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Tough game next weekend, a fixture we lost last season against a team who have started the season really confidently. Then it's Anfield, on the telly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ignoring the result, we have been awful all season long and hoofing clearly is not working we need to sort it out. Our points total at the moment is simply not good enough, just so poor. We've been poor but I fully expect us to pick up with Krul, Colo and Saylor back, that's the heart of our team right there. I do agree but at the same time we are struggling to create anything and Krul, Colo and Saylor won't help in that regard. I'm really concerned with the lack of midfield control and chance creating at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Tough game next weekend, a fixture we lost last season against a team who have started the season really confidently. Then it's Anfield, on the telly. Think the next two games are good on paper to be honest, WBA should give us a good game and hopefully will start to bring the best out of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 I could see his thinking today and thought it was fair enough comsidering the occasion but I hope from now on, he goes with a more attacking approach. We need to start progressing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 aye same shit week in and week out, out of fuel to say more. Pardew needs a hand with coaching Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Had his side up for it and we defended like heroes. Can't really fault his subs but sadly there was a clown in his starting side who let everyone down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ignoring the result, we have been awful all season long and hoofing clearly is not working we need to sort it out. Our points total at the moment is simply not good enough, just so poor. We've been poor but I fully expect us to pick up with Krul, Colo and Saylor back, that's the heart of our team right there. I do agree but at the same time we are struggling to create anything and Krul, Colo and Saylor won't help in that regard. I'm really concerned with the lack of midfield control and chance creating at the moment. the defenders will not only restrict chances but will help with retaining possession and playing through midfield, Krul wins us matches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest palnese Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 We'd have won it with ease with eleven men. Playing 10 vs 11 for an hour was always going to make this a difficult task. 1 point is a very decent return from games like this, where style of play doesn't really matter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Had his side up for it and we defended like heroes. Can't really fault his subs but sadly there was a clown in his starting side who let everyone down. Actually I thought his decision to not change a completely shagged Ba was risky, we needed some fresh legs up there but I thought he was spot on apart from that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 4-4-2 was wrong, starting Shola was wrong, taking Shola off was 50/50 as I can see the reason behind it. Taking Coloccini is another 50/50 so I wouldn't complain about that too much. Bringing on Obertan when Ba should have gone off for Cisse is another one he got wrong. He needs to up his game because he's not having a positive impact on us and hasn't all season. It looked as if our fresh legs which Obertan provided were to help out at the back rather then to try and do something in the mackem half, if we needed fresh legs at the back then maybe Anita would have been a better choice. I think we were the better team when 11 v 11 but apart from the well worked goal, we were hoofing the ball and losing possession, something which we did for most of the 90 minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Not going to fault the players or the manager today, honestly don't have a problem with anything we did. Disgusted by the officials Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 On his BBC interview he says he thinks were 'back' today before the red card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 On his BBC interview he says he thinks were 'back' today before the red card. First 25 minutes was the best we've been all season by a country mile. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilko Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 On his BBC interview he says he thinks were 'back' today before the red card. I'd agree with that, we looked superb compared to the sleepwalking starts we've had all season long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistle17 Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Cant fault him or any of our players today. The only person who let us down was Martin Atkinson- what a disgrace he is, gave us nothing all day. I thought Pards got it spot on with bringing on Perch, although I was a tad disappointed he didn't start. My only gripe was replacing Ben Arfa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 You could see Shola is a much better fit with the 4-4-2 from the off, that contributed to a decent performance in that period but it's still not the way forward IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 That last line is killer man. "We're suddenly in the top 8 or 9, and that's where we want to be". Not having a pop at him for saying it, but it's a sad truth that for this season: that is our genuine aim. What a depressing aim in turns of our league aspirations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ignoring the result, we have been awful all season long and hoofing clearly is not working we need to sort it out. Our points total at the moment is simply not good enough, just so poor. We've been poor but I fully expect us to pick up with Krul, Colo and Saylor back, that's the heart of our team right there. I do agree but at the same time we are struggling to create anything and Krul, Colo and Saylor won't help in that regard. I'm really concerned with the lack of midfield control and chance creating at the moment. the defenders will not only restrict chances but will help with retaining possession and playing through midfield, Krul wins us matches. Aye true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 That last line is killer man. "We're suddenly in the top 8 or 9, and that's where we want to be". Not having a pop at him for saying it, but it's a sad truth that for this season: that is our genuine aim. What a depressing aim in turns of our league aspirations. I think we need to realise that we overachieved last season and top half is more of a truer reflection of the club, as opposed to top six. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 That last line is killer man. "We're suddenly in the top 8 or 9, and that's where we want to be". Not having a pop at him for saying it, but it's a sad truth that for this season: that is our genuine aim. What a depressing aim in turns of our league aspirations. I think we need to realise that we overachieved last season and top half is more of a truer reflection of the club, as opposed to top six. I don't think it is at all. Not when you look at some of the players we've got at our disposal. Pardew's the problem for us at the moment as he's not playing to the team's strengths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 We'va had tough games and been missing really important players, plus Pardew is still fucking about with 4-4-2, there's a lot of reason for optimism. Look at that shambles down the road for a true mid table team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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