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Mole_Toonfan

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Lukaku easily would. The other two are on the bench at worst.

 

Well everyone knows our forward depth is pitiful so i will agree with that, will still have good enough players to be contending with Everton and Liverpool with a better coach though.

 

But i'm quite aware we probably need 3 or 4 more to have strength in depth across the board.

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not every team in the league has a first class first 11 and bench, its utterly unrealistic

 

Of course it is. But is it unrealistic to have 2 or 3 players in the squad with proven track records of hitting double figures in a season? All of those chasing top 7 do.

 

Who in that Everton squad hits double figures a season? currently only Fellaini on 11? Swansea? West Brom?

 

That a completely invalid point. Its not even remotely true.

 

Fellaini, Jelavic and Anichebe will all do it this season. In the league alone they've got 6 players on 5 goals or more. We've got 2. Jelavic/Anichibe on 6/7 goals each. Your sure they will each get 3/4 goals more before the end of the season?! Honestly man You've seen jelavic this season right?  The reason we don't have any other goalscorers is that we play with one up front completely isolated, and hump long balls up to him.

 

Never mentioned Swansea's scorers but West Brom have Lukaku, Long and Odemwingie. All 3 would stroll into our matchday 18.

You mentioned "teams chasing the top 7" So they are in there.  VERY debateable if they would stroll into our matchday eleven at all., 

 

 

Lukaku easily would. The other two are on the bench at worst.

 

He probably would. But then  equally Colo/Debuchy/Mbiwa/Santon/Cabaye/Cisse/HBA/Sissoko would stroll into theres.

 

Its an irrelevance. The point is that we have players capable of scoring goals, but we do not utilise them. no goals from a corner all season?! how many does that account for? Crossed free kicks?

 

We only have 1 player (Taylor) is remotely good or dominant in the air in fairness.

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

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not every team in the league has a first class first 11 and bench, its utterly unrealistic

 

Of course it is. But is it unrealistic to have 2 or 3 players in the squad with proven track records of hitting double figures in a season? All of those chasing top 7 do.

 

Who in that Everton squad hits double figures a season? currently only Fellaini on 11? Swansea? West Brom?

 

That a completely invalid point. Its not even remotely true.

 

Fellaini, Jelavic and Anichebe will all do it this season. In the league alone they've got 6 players on 5 goals or more. We've got 2. Jelavic/Anichibe on 6/7 goals each. Your sure they will each get 3/4 goals more before the end of the season?! Honestly man You've seen jelavic this season right?  The reason we don't have any other goalscorers is that we play with one up front completely isolated, and hump long balls up to him.

 

Never mentioned Swansea's scorers but West Brom have Lukaku, Long and Odemwingie. All 3 would stroll into our matchday 18.

You mentioned "teams chasing the top 7" So they are in there.  VERY debateable if they would stroll into our matchday eleven at all., 

 

 

Lukaku easily would. The other two are on the bench at worst.

 

He probably would. But then  equally Colo/Debuchy/Mbiwa/Santon/Cabaye/Cisse/HBA/Sissoko would stroll into theres.

 

Its an irrelevance. The point is that we have players capable of scoring goals, but we do not utilise them. no goals from a corner all season?! how many does that account for? Crossed free kicks?

 

We only have 1 player (Taylor) is remotely good or dominant in the air in fairness.

 

Really? didn't evra score from a corner for Man Utd? It's our rank set pieces, not the personnel.

 

Because he is an aggressive attacker of the ball in those situations. Nowt to do with height.

 

Our set-pieces are gash though. Cabaye's in particular.

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

 

You keep saying this sort of thing, I think we've got enough goals in our team to be well clear of 16th actually.

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not every team in the league has a first class first 11 and bench, its utterly unrealistic

 

Of course it is. But is it unrealistic to have 2 or 3 players in the squad with proven track records of hitting double figures in a season? All of those chasing top 7 do.

 

Who in that Everton squad hits double figures a season? currently only Fellaini on 11? Swansea? West Brom?

 

That a completely invalid point. Its not even remotely true.

 

Fellaini, Jelavic and Anichebe will all do it this season. In the league alone they've got 6 players on 5 goals or more. We've got 2. Jelavic/Anichibe on 6/7 goals each. Your sure they will each get 3/4 goals more before the end of the season?! Honestly man You've seen jelavic this season right?  The reason we don't have any other goalscorers is that we play with one up front completely isolated, and hump long balls up to him.

 

Never mentioned Swansea's scorers but West Brom have Lukaku, Long and Odemwingie. All 3 would stroll into our matchday 18.

You mentioned "teams chasing the top 7" So they are in there.  VERY debateable if they would stroll into our matchday eleven at all., 

 

 

Lukaku easily would. The other two are on the bench at worst.

 

He probably would. But then  equally Colo/Debuchy/Mbiwa/Santon/Cabaye/Cisse/HBA/Sissoko would stroll into theres.

 

Its an irrelevance. The point is that we have players capable of scoring goals, but we do not utilise them. no goals from a corner all season?! how many does that account for? Crossed free kicks?

 

We only have 1 player (Taylor) is remotely good or dominant in the air in fairness.

 

Really? didn't evra score from a corner for Man Utd? It's our rank set pieces, not the personnel.

 

It's very easy to say that.

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

 

What? So Cabaye can't score goals? HBA/Sissoko/Gouffran, all can't score goals?

 

Cabaye has scored 6 goals in open play in 2 seasons for us ffs.

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

 

You keep saying this sort of thing, I think we've got enough goals in our team to be well clear of 16th actually.

 

We haven't when we have an open door in our rear end.

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

 

What? So Cabaye can't score goals? HBA/Sissoko/Gouffran, all can't score goals?

 

Cabaye has scored 6 goals in open play in 2 seasons for us ffs.

 

Not bad for a defender.

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We've got to start sending Debuchy up for corners on a more consistent basis, I'm sure he scored from a few for Lille and he definitely seems to attack the ball in the air well from a defensive perspective.

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We've got to start sending Debuchy up for corners on a more consistent basis, I'm sure he scored from a few for Lille and he definitely seems to attack the ball in the air well from a defensive perspective.

 

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

 

Cabaye has 6 goals, how many would he actually have if he wasn't picking the ball up from centre backs all the bloody time and actually given a bit of freedom to create and push on and not injured for ages ( ok that isn't Pardew's fault but still)?

 

Not many midfielders have scored many more than that, especially with the teams we are talking about.

 

How many midfielders have got into double figures for Liverpool and Everton? Fellaini doesn't count as he basically plays as an forward.

 

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We've got to start sending Debuchy up for corners on a more consistent basis, I'm sure he scored from a few for Lille and he definitely seems to attack the ball in the air well from a defensive perspective.

 

What's really scary is that while you are aware of that, I'm not convinced Pardew is.

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Honestly our midfield is incapable of scoring enough goals.  Anyone thinking that's totally down to the manager are barking up the wrong tree.

 

You keep saying this sort of thing, I think we've got enough goals in our team to be well clear of 16th actually.

 

We haven't when we have an open door in our rear end.

 

So do you think, all in all, we're about where we should be in terms of the overall ability/balance of the squad?

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