Alan Pardew

[Happy Face]

Long passes are not the same as long hoofs, which ours are most of the time, hoof and hope.

 

It doesn't make any sense to level that criticism at Pardew.  Are you saying he is coaching them to hit less long balls, but to not look where they're hitting the ball when they do use it?

 

 

 

From my point of view when i watch Man Utd etc, they use passes that would be classed as long to switch play. It's a pass not as we play them, bopped up to Cisse or Sissoko to win in the air. That's how i see the difference, ours are hit without any real hope, better sides passes are to a players feet.

 

So i'm saying Pardew deserves criticism for surrendering possession with pointless punts forward. There's nothing wrong with a long pass at all, it's just ours aren't passes.

 

But that's down to the ability of players.  You can't sack a manager because his players aren't as good as Man U's man.

 

 

[Guest bimpy474]

Call me old fashioned but i like to enjoy watching football, when was the last time any of us watched us and thought, well that was nice ?.

[Wullie]

 

He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

 

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager.

 

It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation.

 

There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like?

 

Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't.

 

We hardly had a player out all last season.  Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation?

 

I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season.

 

None of our players have played over 40 games, only 4 have played more than 30, and one of them is a goalkeeper.

 

Meanwhile most of Chelsea's first team players are on around 45-50 games.

[Mole_Toonfan]

Call me old fashioned but i like to enjoy watching football, when was the last time any of us watched us and thought, well that was nice ?.

 

West Brom away, Liverpool home and Stoke home last season, i thoroughly enjoyed those games

[Disco]

Call me old fashioned but i like to enjoy watching football, when was the last time any of us watched us and thought, well that was nice ?.

 

Chelsea game in the league, Benfica game overall.

[Guest Dontooner]

 

He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

 

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager.

 

It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation.

 

There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like?

 

Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't.

 

We hardly had a player out all last season.  Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation?

 

I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season.

 

Put it this way, since the transfer window closed, which losses are we stringing together to say it's sack worthy?

 

The Mackems - definitely.

 

Wigan and Swansea otherwise?

 

Both lost in the dying minutes?

Posted above about the mismatching Pardews direct style and the player more natural style.

I think the fact that he doesnt bring out the best in our players is a good enough reason to find another manager.

Anita is another player that he has failed to utilize well, those that excel under Pardew are more direct players like Ryan and Perch.

Even Jonas is playing below his potential, he is more like a sweeping defender that often saves us from conceding more goals. I think Jonas for all his lost of speed is a better player than that.

 

 

[Guest bimpy474]

Long passes are not the same as long hoofs, which ours are most of the time, hoof and hope.

 

It doesn't make any sense to level that criticism at Pardew.  Are you saying he is coaching them to hit less long balls, but to not look where they're hitting the ball when they do use it?

 

 

 

From my point of view when i watch Man Utd etc, they use passes that would be classed as long to switch play. It's a pass not as we play them, bopped up to Cisse or Sissoko to win in the air. That's how i see the difference, ours are hit without any real hope, better sides passes are to a players feet.

 

So i'm saying Pardew deserves criticism for surrendering possession with pointless punts forward. There's nothing wrong with a long pass at all, it's just ours aren't passes.

 

But that's down to the ability of players.  You can't sack a manager because his players aren't as good as Man U's man.

 

 

 

Don't be daft, the players are playing to his instructions. And his instructions are to play direct football, which in itself isn't that bad to watch but we do it terribly. And we have a squad that is so unsuited to direct football is mental to use it.

 

If they weren't playing to his instructions, why would we hoof every free kick (by the GK) anywhere near the halfway line into the opposition box, a tactic that never ever works, EVER.

 

You can bury your head in the sand but he is responsible for the state of our football, and that football is why we are in with a real chance of relegation. He is a poor manager, with poor tactics, with a poor formation for the players he has, we have embarrassing set penises. We can't defend yet set up defensively.

 

Do you need to see anymore to know what you know in your head is true.

[Happy Face]

 

He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

 

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager.

 

It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation.

 

There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like?

 

Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't.

 

We hardly had a player out all last season.  Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation?

 

I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season.

 

Put it this way, since the transfer window closed, which losses are we stringing together to say it's sack worthy?

 

The Mackems - definitely.

 

Wigan and Swansea otherwise?

 

Both lost in the dying minutes?

 

I'm stringing together 34 performances and saying they're sack worthy.

 

Then you aren't being fair.

 

The real disgruntlement started before the transfer window opened.  We lost 10 league games out of 13.  If he was going to be sacked, the end of that run would have been a worthy time.

 

But he hadn't been backed in the market then. 

 

Since he has been we have only lost 5 games from 11.  We've won just as many.

[worthy]

 

He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

 

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager.

 

It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation.

 

There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like?

 

Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't.

 

We hardly had a player out all last season.  Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation?

 

I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season.

 

None of our players have played over 40 games, only 4 have played more than 30, and one of them is a goalkeeper.

 

Meanwhile most of Chelsea's first team players are on around 45-50 games.

 

And he still continues to use it as an excuse... Even worse that people actually believe him on this shit.

[Guest bimpy474]

Call me old fashioned but i like to enjoy watching football, when was the last time any of us watched us and thought, well that was nice ?.

 

West Brom away, Liverpool home and Stoke home last season, i thoroughly enjoyed those games

 

Yep, all last season and they were good but 3 games out of nearly 90. Mole it's so bad to think that way but it's true.

[Wullie]

 

He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

 

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager.

 

It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation.

 

There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like?

 

Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't.

 

We hardly had a player out all last season.  Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation?

 

I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season.

 

Put it this way, since the transfer window closed, which losses are we stringing together to say it's sack worthy?

 

The Mackems - definitely.

 

Wigan and Swansea otherwise?

 

Both lost in the dying minutes?

 

I'm stringing together 34 performances and saying they're sack worthy.

 

Indeed. Why does one loss have to be "sack worthy"?

 

The away form alone should have seen him get the bullet months ago.

[Skeletor]

Just remembered this thread from last year http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91772.msg3543697.html

 

[Guest Dontooner]

The Dire Set pieces is a good enough reason for me. With no contribution from them, i wonder how much of a handicap we hand to other teams. 

[Guest bimpy474]

Just remembered this thread from last year http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91772.msg3543697.html

 

 

Well there you go, over a year ago, it's no kneejerk reaction this like.

[Guest bimpy474]

The Dire Set pieces is a good enough reason for me. With no contribution from them, i wonder how much of a handicap we hand to other teams. 

 

Well for a start every opposition know that we have zero threat at all from them. For me that hands them 25% of the match right there.

[Mole_Toonfan]

The Dire Set pieces is a good enough reason for me. With no contribution from them, i wonder how much of a handicap we hand to other teams.

 

I really don't care about this tbh, its the general play that concerns me. If we actually created chances no one would give a shit about corners.

[Dr Venkman]

 

He should be in the lab working on an elixr.

 

Seriously? if the players are unfit then there is clearly a problem with how train and that is down to the manager.

 

It's not a coincidence we have so many hamstring injuries and other pulls, you don't get those through being unlucky you get that by poor preparation.

 

There is nothing magic about it, why do you think the big clubs get few injuries that are related to hamstrings and the like?

 

Because they prepare properly, if these consistent hamstring injuries are anything to go by we obviously don't.

 

We hardly had a player out all last season.  Do you think Pardew has made a change to the fitness regime that has led to a worsening of the situation?

 

I tend to think it's more to do with the fact we played our 50th game of the season over the weekend but we only played 43 in the whole of last season.

 

Put it this way, since the transfer window closed, which losses are we stringing together to say it's sack worthy?

 

The Mackems - definitely.

 

Wigan and Swansea otherwise?

 

Both lost in the dying minutes?

 

I'm stringing together 34 performances and saying they're sack worthy.

 

Then you aren't being fair.

 

The real disgruntlement started before the transfer window opened.  We lost 10 league games out of 13.  If he was going to be sacked, the end of that run would have been a worthy time.

 

But he hadn't been backed in the market then. 

 

Since he has been we have only lost 5 games from 11.  We've won just as many.

 

Real disgruntlement started when?

 

Robson had belief in his own ability though; being high up in the Premier League didn't faze him in the slightest. I'm not convinced this applies to Pardew. It's as though he's so nervous about mucking up what we've acheived so far that he's trying everything possible to avoid it and it's at risk of backfiring. Our season is on a knife-edge at the moment IMO.

 

I agree, which is why I've accused him of bottling it a few times this season, Liverpool was the worst. Like I said elsewhere it's only gonna take one or two upgrades to the first team for Pardew to look like the weak link every single week unless he changes his mindset.

 

I'm being fair, his tactics have been suspect for his entire time here. I just keep seeing you post a bunch of numbers, watch the football man, it's rank and it has been for ages, albeit with different amounts of luck/fantastic finishing.

 

 

[Parky]

I was one of them.  And I'm smug about it too *straightens his tie*

 

I remember the ones that saw though the bullshit and criticised Pardew were shot down by turds on here.

 

There were specific turds on here claiming we were silly to want to play a more passing type in the mould of Swansea and such.  Seeing they were below us and everything they refused to see it our ways and got brought into the Pardew salesman bullcrap.

 

You don't think Pardew could have been getting the best out of the players he had at his disposal?

 

I think in doing that he bought himself the opportunity to see if he can do it with the better players we bought in January.  Once they're up to the pace of the game and understanding starts to build I like to think performances will come.

 

Get out. Out!! AAAaaghht!!

[Jack Flash]

Just remembered this thread from last year http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91772.msg3543697.html

 

 

I don't think there's anything really wrong with the football, more the expectations of our fans to attack constantly when it's an entirely unrealistic demand.

 

[TRon]

I just want to add that one of the reasons there is very little support for the striker is that Pardew tends to pick very defensive midfields. Cabaye is usually deployed deep behind Tiote and Jonas is picked for his defensive attributes only. That's why we end up with a massive gap between the midfield and forwards, and this is due to the way Pardew lines them up.

 

He has done, but I think there's evidence of him looking to sort that out too.  Cabaye was still very deep against the mackems...but that was to accommodate a very attacking set up otherwise with Marveaux and Gouffran and Sissoko supporting the striker.

 

The fact half of those players never showed up was disappointing like.

 

It might help if they practiced that formation more regularly. The lack of off the ball movement suggests very little drill work in this area and when you watch the games it all looks very off the cuff.

[Parky]

I just want to add that one of the reasons there is very little support for the striker is that Pardew tends to pick very defensive midfields. Cabaye is usually deployed deep behind Tiote and Jonas is picked for his defensive attributes only. That's why we end up with a massive gap between the midfield and forwards, and this is due to the way Pardew lines them up.

 

He has done, but I think there's evidence of him looking to sort that out too.  Cabaye was still very deep against the mackems...but that was to accommodate a very attacking set up otherwise with Marveaux and Gouffran and Sissoko supporting the striker.

 

The fact half of those players never showed up was disappointing like.

 

It might help if they practiced that formation more regularly. The lack of off the ball movement suggests very little drill work in this area and when you watch the games it all looks very off the cuff.

 

Yeah the lack of bowel movement is an issue.

[Guest bimpy474]

Just remembered this thread from last year http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,91772.msg3543697.html

 

 

I don't think there's anything really wrong with the football, more the expectations of our fans to attack constantly when it's an entirely unrealistic demand.

 

 

Brilliant.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I don't stand a fucking chance like... is there anyone else who has 18 month-old posts pulled out and laughed at?

 

FWIW I can't even find that post in the thread you've linked, so I can't begin to put it into context.

[Mole_Toonfan]

I don't stand a f***ing chance like... is there anyone else who has 18 month-old posts pulled out and laughed at?

 

FWIW I can't even find that post in the thread you've linked, so I can't begin to put it into context.

 

Because it doesn't exist mate

[AyeDubbleYoo]

Eh?