Beren Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1 to 11. Curious on thoughts about this, as I've seen remarks here and there on N-O about Tiote being overrated, Colo being indispensable etc.. I'd probably go with the following: 1. Colo 2. Ben Arfa 3. Tiote 4. Krul 5. Cisse 6. Jonas 7. Ba 8. Cabaye 9. Santon 10. Taylor 11. Simpson No intended disrespect, necessarily, to the players lower down the order - I think just in terms of how we cope without them/who we can bring in if they are absent. Krul and Tiote were a toss up for third IMO. I really, really rate Tiote - we'd been missing him for years before he arrived. I suspect if Krul had ever really been out for a long period of time, I'd value him more in my list though - and he'd probably be 1st! Hopefully that won't happen. I'll put my own tin hat on, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Krul 2. Coloccini 3. Ben Arfa 4. Cabaye 5. Tioté 6. Cissé 7. Santon 8. Jonas 9. Ba 10. Taylor 11. Perch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Mine would be fairly similar but I'd put Jonas 10th and keep everyone else the same. Just don't think he has much of an impact as a wide midfielder anymore and when it comes to his central role (where he's played well), I think Anita could do a better job too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Coloccini 2. Ben Arfa 3. Krul 4. Cisse 5. Tiote I often dispute the importance of a good goalie but I think we'd cope better if others got injured instead. Colo is the vital one, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SweMatt Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Coloccini 2. Tiote 3. Krul After that, I could find alternatives to almost every spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Coloccini 2. Tiote 3. Krul After that, I could find alternatives to almost every spot. An alternative to Ben Arfa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Actually, I'd place Ben Arfa above Colo, and have Perch instead of Simpson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbandit Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Actually, I'd place Ben Arfa above Colo, and have Perch instead of Simpson. I'd definitely have Perch instead of Simpson. As for Colo - Ben Arfa. Colo is so important to the team, more important than anyone else. Ben Arfa is more important to us scoring goals and controlling games but he can do this single-handedly rather than with the other players. I don't think either are replaceable or above one another Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yeah... HBA would be my number 1. Nearly clueless without him. (in an attacking sense.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SweMatt Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Coloccini 2. Tiote 3. Krul After that, I could find alternatives to almost every spot. An alternative to Ben Arfa? I would pick above three even if they were out of form - they would be good enough anyway. And they would fit any tactical formation. I could see Marveaux start before Ben Arfa in a difficult away game with Cisse as a lone striker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Krul 2. HBA 3. Colo 4. Tiote 5. Cabaye Even HBA at 2 is shaky. Ba & Cisse are equally as capable of a moment of genius. The reason neither Ba/Cisse make my list is that as long as there's 1, you feel there's a goal scorer in the team. You need at least 1 natural goal scorer but we are fortunate enough to have 2. Colo because of the aura of calm he brings. Tiote & Cabaye in a midfied has so much steel, strength and running. Whenever they are fit they must start unless in really bad form. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Krul Colo Tayls Tiote Cabaye Cisse Ba The spine is so important, lets the likes of Ben Arfa run wild Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 There's no way Krul isn't in the top 3. He's a no-brainer. Same with Colo & Saylor really, if available there's no reason they shouldn't start. Same with Tiote & Cabaye for me (Anita has yet to prove himself). HBA too because we have no midfielder proven to add the assists and goals they way he has. You can conceive having one of the Demba's on the bench though. The rest havwe to really fight for their place and I think that's the right way. The spine of a side should really be a no-brainer. Ideally your back 5 would be automatically on the teamsheet. 2 midfielders atleast (a defensive and an attacking one) and 1 striker (luckily we have 2 great ones meaning they can compete). The best sides generally follow this format. If you're spine is interchangeable you'e either PSG or a weak side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Krul Colo Tayls Tiote Cabaye Cisse Ba The spine is so important, lets the likes of Ben Arfa run wild Agreed, especially with the theory of the spine being so vital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Icke - Son of God Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Colo, Krul, Benny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Krul and Ben Arfa are the main ones. I'm reasonably confident about the cover for the other positions, providing we don't have to field too many replacements at once. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Colo, Krul, Benny. That's our three keys to keeping clean sheets and mount any sort of threat to the opposition goal at the moment. However, I think Cissé in his spring form should be considered even more important. Won us games with his finishing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 From the games I have watched last year and this one, when Cabaye is not on song you notice it massively. Not exactly what the OP is asking, but I have him for one of your vital players on whose form you depend most on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Colo Krul HBA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I think it'd look something like Tim Danny Davide Steven Fabricio Cheik Yohan Hatem Jonas Demba Papiss ...you can ban me now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 For me, when everyone is fit: Krul Coloccini Ben Arfa Tiote Cisse Cabaye Jonas Santon Ba Taylor Simpson For Pardew, imo: Krul Coloccini Cisse Ba Ben Arfa Jonas Cabaye Tiote Santon Simpson Taylor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 1. Ben Arfa 2. Coloccini 3. Krul 4. Ba 5. Jonas 6. Santon 7. Cisse 8. Cabaye 9. Tiote 10. Taylor 11. Perch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 This thread has made me wish there was some sabermetrics kind of analysis on the true influence of a goalkeeper throughout a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jagten Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Cabaye Krul Coloccini Ben Arfa Cisse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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