The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Half of my assumptions are based on the fact it is 'egomaniac' John Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Don't think any player would want to take the 5th penalty in the hope it would be over by then. More often than not, the biggest pressure is on the last penalty taker. And yeah, Terry was as cocky as could be taking that penalty. Makes it all the more priceless that he missed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinho lad Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Half of my assumptions are based on the fact it is 'egomaniac' John Terry. Still doesn't refute the possibility of my question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio >>>>> Terry. No contest imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 At their best and in terms of talent, absolutely. If I had to sign one of them 10 years ago the answer would be different, though. Terry's a much better player to have in your team and even at 33/34 is an absolute colossus defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Sol Campbell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 At their best and in terms of talent, absolutely. If I had to sign one of them 10 years ago the answer would be different, though. Terry's a much better player to have in your team and even at 33/34 is an absolute colossus defensively. I think Rio's extra class really helped Manchester United in Europe and he was a much better player for England than Terry was. The last 5 or so years he's been really been hampered by injury and even then he's been an important part of their side. John Terry's younger than I thought. Only just turned 33. I do think he's been fortunate that the majority of the successful Chelsea managers prefer dedicated DM (or two) and a deeper line. It was particularly hilarious watching Terry in AVB's insanely high line. Almost as funny as Dawson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 To quote Frankie Boyle, if I was desperate for a piss and I ran to the toilet and John Terry was in the urinal on fire, I'd piss in the sink. Good player, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 How have I just noticed it's said 'How highly do you date... Roberto Baggio?' all this time. Complacent eyes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 How have I just noticed it's said 'How highly do you date... Roberto Baggio?' all this time. Complacent eyes! Disco the only one with good eyes. Is he a gentle lover? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 How have I just noticed it's said 'How highly do you date... Roberto Baggio?' all this time. Complacent eyes! Disco the only one with good eyes. Is he a gentle lover? Disco just wonders that about all the athletic fellas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucaAltieri Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not a massive Baggio fan. Didn't really get to see much of him at the time and when I've gone back and seen his old games he was a good dribbler of the ball but a little bit underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, still a very good player, but I can't put him up there with the legends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Not a massive Baggio fan. Didn't really get to see much of him at the time and when I've gone back and seen his old games he was a good dribbler of the ball but a little bit underwhelming. Don't get me wrong, still a very good player, but I can't put him up there with the legends. He was like a forward version of Zidane for me, very svelte on the ball, dreamy like almost. Italy have produced some top forwards over the years, forwards of differing styles. The early to mid 90s was boom time in that department throughout the world. Italy had Baggio, Vialli, Ravenelli, Signori, Zola, Del Pierro, Mancini and I'm sure I've missed off others. Baggio was the cream of the crop for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio Ferdinand was a much much better player than Terry. Terry is a centre-back and that's it, Ferdinand is a footballer full stop. I wouldn't even say he was or is a great leader, Drogba was by far and away the true leader at Chelsea. Terry is or has been one of the best CB's in the Premier League era, but as a footballer others, especially Ferdinand rank way ahead of him or should do. Carvalho was better than Terry and Woodgate when fit, easily as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 How have I just noticed it's said 'How highly do you date... Roberto Baggio?' all this time. Complacent eyes! Disco the only one with good eyes. Is he a gentle lover? Disco just wonders that about all the athletic fellas. Stop your flirting Ronny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. He wasn't and definitely isn't now. Both should have been more than they are though, could have been a truly great partnership for England, naturally they weren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. He wasn't and definitely isn't now. Both should have been more than they are though, could have been a truly great partnership for England, naturally they weren't. Have to agree to disagree, well I agree Rio has fallen to bits now but in their prime Rio was infinitely better than Terry. Rio could do it at all levels, very rarely impressed with Terry at international level due to his lack of pace and technical ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. He wasn't and definitely isn't now. Both should have been more than they are though, could have been a truly great partnership for England, naturally they weren't. Have to agree to disagree, well I agree Rio has fallen to bits now but in their prime Rio was infinitely better than Terry. Rio could do it at all levels, very rarely impressed with Terry at international level due to his lack of pace and technical ability. Agreed. Terry is the uber PL centre-back, but at international level was often found out and that's because that level is much more technical, slower and more about ability. Terry stands out in our league because he is great at the basics, heading, clearing his lines, winning important last ditch tackles etc. At international level such acts are rarely asked of a centre-back, however. Terry is the Andy Carroll of centre-backs, Rio the Rooney. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. He wasn't and definitely isn't now. Both should have been more than they are though, could have been a truly great partnership for England, naturally they weren't. Have to agree to disagree, well I agree Rio has fallen to bits now but in their prime Rio was infinitely better than Terry. Rio could do it at all levels, very rarely impressed with Terry at international level due to his lack of pace and technical ability. Agreed. Terry is the uber PL centre-back, but at international level was often found out and that's because that level is much more technical, slower and more about ability. Terry stands out in our league because he is great at the basics, heading, clearing his lines, winning important last ditch tackles etc. At international level such acts are rarely asked of a centre-back, however. Terry is the Andy Carroll of centre-backs, Rio the Rooney. Terry was custom built for the PL and was/is a very good defender but Rio had so much more to his locker. He was hardly weak or a poor leader either. Just an all round, much better defender/player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Don't get me wrong I think Rio was better but the difference isn't lightyears or a massive difference. Also Terry is actually decent on the ball and an alright footballer, just a bit slow and robust at defending and HTT you're kidding yourself if you think that kind of defender is only a PL product albeit he'd be better here than anywhere else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio Ferdinand was a much much better player than Terry. Terry is a centre-back and that's it, Ferdinand is a footballer full stop. I wouldn't even say he was or is a great leader, Drogba was by far and away the true leader at Chelsea. Terry is or has been one of the best CB's in the Premier League era, but as a footballer others, especially Ferdinand rank way ahead of him or should do. Carvalho was better than Terry and Woodgate when fit, easily as well. It's actually incredible that there's a group of people who'd even dare suggest that Woodgate was better than Terry. Woodgate had a tad more pace, that's it. Terry's criminally underrated by biased people for being a cunt. Why not just tell the truth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. He wasn't and definitely isn't now. Both should have been more than they are though, could have been a truly great partnership for England, naturally they weren't. Have to agree to disagree, well I agree Rio has fallen to bits now but in their prime Rio was infinitely better than Terry. Rio could do it at all levels, very rarely impressed with Terry at international level due to his lack of pace and technical ability. Lack of technical ability? What have you lot even been watching? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 Rio was light years ahead of Terry. He wasn't and definitely isn't now. Both should have been more than they are though, could have been a truly great partnership for England, naturally they weren't. Have to agree to disagree, well I agree Rio has fallen to bits now but in their prime Rio was infinitely better than Terry. Rio could do it at all levels, very rarely impressed with Terry at international level due to his lack of pace and technical ability. Lack of technical ability? What have you lot even been watching? No point in arguing with you over a Chelsea player tbh, as for the biased because he is a dick comment when did it first become clear he was a complete knob? I have had concerns over his ability outside the premier league for as long as I can remember. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 If John Terry was born a Geordie and had played for us for over a decade you'd be sucking his wang from here to Kingdom come. Just tell it like it is, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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