merlin Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Santon is not a good defender and Haidara looks to be by far the better player in that position. FBs are there to defend, first and foremost and that is how they should be judged before anything else, If they can be a good asset coming forward, great, but Haidara seems to have both requirements and is better at his main job. Whilst he remains in good form I would always pick him before Santon - end of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Not disagreeing about Haidara, but fullbacks aren't always there to defend first. Obviously with Pardew that's the case and I think Haidara seems like he might be a better fit for us with Debuchy playing on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoSelecta Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Santon is not a good defender and Haidara looks to be by far the better player in that position. FBs are there to defend, first and foremost and that is how they should be judged before anything else, If they can be a good asset coming forward, great, but Haidara seems to have both requirements and is better at his main job. Whilst he remains in good form I would always pick him before Santon - end of. Tell Dani Alves that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 In the modern game, full backs are very important in an attacking sense as it offers you an extra outlet. Look at how much Simpson limits our attacking play, and then compare him to Debuchy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Santon is not a good defender and Haidara looks to be by far the better player in that position. FBs are there to defend, first and foremost and that is how they should be judged before anything else, If they can be a good asset coming forward, great, but Haidara seems to have both requirements and is better at his main job. Whilst he remains in good form I would always pick him before Santon - end of. Tell Dani Alves that. Remind me - where does Alves play again....?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoU Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I think people have writen off Santon a bit too quickly. Admittedly he has had some mediocre performances, but he still has some amazing offensive qualities and is still young enough to develop his defensive capabilities. It might also see him bloom as a player if he was moved to the wing permanently (Bale). I would just hate to see another Milner-situation, where a player moves away and switches position (something a lot of people on here, were advocating with Milner), which makes him go from mediocre to amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I think people have writen off Santon a bit too quickly. Admittedly he has had some mediocre performances, but he still has some amazing offensive qualities and is still young enough to develop his defensive capabilities. It might also see him bloom as a player if he was moved to the wing permanently (Bale). I would just hate to see another Milner-situation, where a player moves away and switches position (something a lot of people on here, were advocating with Milner), which makes him go from mediocre to amazing. absolutely this imo, he should be tried there next season...especially if we can't pick up any canny wingers/wide forwards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 I've started to shift to wanting to see Santon play on the wing, after seeing how well Haidara is doing and now we have Debuchy. Even if it's only short-term, it can only benefit his game at full back and I think he'd be good defensively on the wing, a different option to Gutierrez. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Twitter shite. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geordiesned Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 It better be. Any reason given why he hasn't travelled to Portugal though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Twitter s****. Think so too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Roger Kint Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Twitter shite. Aye. i know the Chronicle has said he could go on loan but it makes no sense that link over a domestic loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Sending him back to France does seem a bit pointless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 If we loan him out now because Dummett had one good game against Motherwell, it makes perfekt sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Taylor out injured and Debuchy suspended for example, then what? Must be bullshit like! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 That lad isn't far off being an excellent player, I'd keep him here for covering Santon who will also be covering Debuchy. If we were going to loan him It should be short term surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Or for some fucking competition and being able to rest a player every now and then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 To be fair it's plausible if Colo is staying. Yanga-Mbiwa will be second choice I'd imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 To be fair it's plausible if Colo is staying. Yanga-Mbiwa will be second choice I'd imagine. Then we'd be one CB too short Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 That lad isn't far off being an excellent player, I'd keep him here for covering Santon who will also be covering Debuchy. If we were going to loan him It should be short term surely? I would keep him too, strong chance Santon will either get injured or will have to switch to RB to cover a Debuchy suspension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 To be fair it's plausible if Colo is staying. Yanga-Mbiwa will be second choice I'd imagine. Then we'd be one CB too short When are we not short in at least one key position? The owner would rather risk it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 That lad isn't far off being an excellent player, I'd keep him here for covering Santon who will also be covering Debuchy. If we were going to loan him It should be short term surely? I would keep him too, strong chance Santon will either get injured or will have to switch to RB to cover a Debuchy suspension. Aye for sure. He should get enough games to keep him going, even though he's raw he's a viable alternative to Santon too at times. He gives us width. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 To be fair it's plausible if Colo is staying. Yanga-Mbiwa will be second choice I'd imagine. Then we'd be one CB too short When are we not short in at least one key position? The owner would rather risk it. That's why i used: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Taylor out injured and Debuchy suspended for example, then what? Must be bullshit like! PERCH! oh wait... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Taylor out injured and Debuchy suspended for example, then what? Must be bullshit like! Williamson would play as things stand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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