Ishmael Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I see one good season and one bad season in this country for AVB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Considerably more good than bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 If anyone has changed this game btw its AVB. 1-0 down, puts three players on before the 70th mark and they score 3 goals from there on. Clarke yesterday put Long on in halftime and they could've beaten us. It shows you that if you have balls you will do well as a manager. It also helps if you have those options on the bench... Right cause Pardew didn't have Benny on the bench and still decided to put Ameobi on before? Ben Arfa isn't fit... That's the reality... If he was AP would be starting him... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 In fact, I will point out for the second time on this board that Spurs under AVB are performing in line with HR's Spurs of last season. He hasn't got them overachieving, he's got them just about in line with where they should be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasy Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Lets hope for a couple of injuries or red cards for Gerrard and Suarez today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 In fact, I will point out for the second time on this board that Spurs under AVB are performing in line with HR's Spurs of last season. He hasn't got them overachieving, he's got them just about in line with where they should be. Possibly but his team is at least developing and showing signs of becoming a very very good team. Wrote this back in september and don't think I was far off 7-8 months later: Man, the hate for AVB on here is big. He is very inexperienced but has proved he can win stuff as he did with Porto in a year. He has managed for many years and will only learn more. I do expect him to become a very very good manager, and I actually think it will be with Spurs. I can see them destined for top 4 for a long long time. He got s*** at Chelsea, but they were poor under Di Matteo too and won the CL through f***ing flukes man. No way they deserved to win it. Chelsea this season has improved loads, with the money they have splashed. Lukaku will one day replace Torres, Mata has been great, Romeu looks like a player who could develop into something very decent tbh and Meireles (has been disappointing so you cant really blame AVB as I though he would be the signing of the season last year). I mean he invested nicely in the squad bringing in youth. One who is one of their best players, two which look great for the future and then Meireles who has been decent. He gets more stick than deserved and media has built up an image of him trying to be like Mourinho. His Spurs team dont look without ideas, they just look like a team having to adapt a bit to new players, like Sigurdsson and also having to play Livermore/Huddlestone in the midfield really doesnt help. Dempsey, Dembele, Vertonghen and Sigurdsson will prove to be great signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 oh for fucks sake, there's going to be a proper Rafa love-in from the home fans Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I wouldn't call AVD very inexperienced. I don't understand your point about the signs of being a very good team; I think that's just a cliché. He's performing in line with expectations at Tottenham, he did so at Porto and failed to at Chelsea. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Redknapp must be struggling to call Liverpool a lesser team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 I wouldn't call AVD very inexperienced. I don't understand your point about the signs of being a very good team; I think that's just a cliché. He's performing in line with expectations at Tottenham, he did so at Porto and failed to at Chelsea. My point is exactly that, he didn't fail at Chelsea, he didn't get the time or chance to fail or succeed. He was just sacked in the beginning of a long term project. He brought in a lot of young players, he brought in their best player in Mata. At Spurs his team is playing good football with far less quality in the side than Chelsea as an example. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 He lost the dressing room and was under-performing in the league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 He did better than 'in line with expectations' at Porto. Undefeated season, Portuguese cup and Europa league treble. Chelsea was always going to fail given the ownership. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrisjraby Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Went to pick my missus up and missed all the Tottenham goals Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 It's ridiculous AVB is 35. Got some future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Very much looking forward to this match and then the CL semi this week. This is a great part of the football season. It's just a shame I have to wait until our match is done before I can actually look forward to the good stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 He did better than 'in line with expectations' at Porto. Undefeated season, Portuguese cup and Europa league treble. Chelsea was always going to fail given the ownership. Yup. As for Porto, being the best team in the league does that mean that winning the treble is "in line with expectations". It's clearly exceeding them. At Chelsea, he failed. However there were clear mitigating circumstances for that. Does it excuse him entirely? Course not, I'm sure he made some poor decisions, but calling it a failure full stop is a pretty naive conclusion. At Spurs, position-wise he's doing about right. However he's got them playing progressively and in with a very real chance of finishing 3rd - which, if we're purely sticking to "expectations", would be exceeding them IMO. He's a good manager who is getting better. He'll probably become a great manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 He lost the dressing room and was under-performing in the league. Am I talking to a wall? What part of long-term project and young guys don't you understand? It was a rebuilding process, you can't always win during a re-building process. He was giving players like Romeu, Mata, Luiz, Ramires the chance to adapt and develop. This would've meant they would never have won the CL though. But in terms of long-term they were on the right track. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Suarez the 'Spanish speaking South American'. Uruguayan is easier to say Graeme Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Suarez the 'Spanish speaking South American'. Uruguayan is easier to say Graeme Did he say that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Suarez the 'Spanish speaking South American'. Uruguayan is easier to say Graeme http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100724103024/simpsons/images/6/60/Uruguay.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 After hearing You'll Never Walk Alone at Borussia Dortmund's Signal Iduna park - the Liverpool version sounds crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Suarez the 'Spanish speaking South American'. Uruguayan is easier to say Graeme Did he say that? Yeah they were talking about Luiz v Suarez. He said 'A Brazilian against a Spanish speaking South American'. Probably didnt know he was from Uruguay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Another minutes silence / applause Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRD Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Who's Anne? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 After hearing You'll Never Walk Alone at Borussia Dortmund's Signal Iduna park - the Liverpool version sounds crap. Sooo looking forward to that match on Wednesday in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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