Ikon Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 We're not gonna see us at our best as long as Jonas and Obertan keep getting games. Simply not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 took all of two passes every time and he was left for dead, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 People also forget that they should have scored 2 goals in the first half when they cut us open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Disagree. with what? He was shocking in the first half. Better in the second when he Jonas to cover his arse ans spent more time upfield than defending which he is not very good at. Santon being poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisMcQuillan Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Jonas was poor, I thought, except for a brief spell in the first half. But Jonas and Obertan were told to push higher and higher up the pitch, along with Sissoko, which left four in a line with their defence. Our midfield was completely dominated numerically, meaning we had no choice but to try and go down the wing, where too often Jonas and Obertan were making runs too far ahead, or long ball it again to Cisse who can't do anything with them. We showed none of their ability to run through the middle because we were outnumbered, and only Marveaux took it on when he came on. Tactically, it wasn't the right shape for the game at all, and again Pardew didn't seem to fix it. Not saying 0-0 is bad, since we really won 2-0, but these were there for the taking tonight with some tweaks. Too often the middle of the park was deserted on our side. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 took all of two passes every time and he was left for dead, man. exactly. Got pushed inside onto his right and lost the ball time and again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I don't remember saying that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Struggling to think of a game that split opinion as strongly as this. If we'd got the 2-0 or even 1-0 win that we were due, I wonder what the difference would have been. I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're shit then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ujpest doza Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I don't remember saying that. i've got sausage fingers when I try and use an iPad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 This is 100% down to the bad offsides calls if you ask me. I'd have no problems with the team if we were sitting on a 2-0 victory right now. Sure there were things that could have been better but that's the case with any team in any game. Don't worry though lads, twenty years from now we can look forward to justice being served in the next match fixing probe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Santon was poor 1st half. Just about every attack they did 1st half was because he was out of position as usual. He ball watches far too much which is such a bad sign for a player who's supposedly a defender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eliassenfredrik Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Struggling to think of a game that split opinion as strongly as this. If we'd got the 2-0 or even 1-0 win that we were due, I wonder what the difference would have been. I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Struggling to think of a game that split opinion as strongly as this. If we'd got the 2-0 or even 1-0 win that we were due, I wonder what the difference would have been. I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Struggling to think of a game that split opinion as strongly as this. If we'd got the 2-0 or even 1-0 win that we were due, I wonder what the difference would have been. I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. As I say, I don't know a lot about the opposition. We made them look handy tonight, I expected them to be shite to average based on the limited amount I'd read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Struggling to think of a game that split opinion as strongly as this. If we'd got the 2-0 or even 1-0 win that we were due, I wonder what the difference would have been. I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. As I say, I don't know a lot about the opposition. We made them look handy tonight, I expected them to be shite to average based on the limited amount I'd read. Ignorant foreigner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Can't believe they're calling Russia and the Ukraine separate countries now like btw, what a minefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Struggling to think of a game that split opinion as strongly as this. If we'd got the 2-0 or even 1-0 win that we were due, I wonder what the difference would have been. I don't even know what my opinion of the game is because I haven't a clue whether the opposition are any good. It was a decent performance, we had a strong side out, we deserved to win a game I expected us to win and we drew. All I know about the opposition is they're Russian, they're not one of the Russian sides who've spent loads of money, they're in the middle of their Winter break. I've also seen enough UEFA Cup Last-32 games to know the opposition we face are usually pretty average. So it depends how good the opposition was. If they're s*** then that was bad. If they're good then that was class. If they're average then that was average. Except they're Ukrainian. As I say, I don't know a lot about the opposition. We made them look handy tonight, I expected them to be shite to average based on the limited amount I'd read. Ignorant foreigner. I'm English m8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I thought they were pretty average tbh, if the ref wasn't blind and we took our chances we would have ended this tie tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Can't believe they're calling Russia and the Ukraine separate countries now like btw, what a minefield. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 The minefield is trying to say they're the same Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Mannnn, I know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 People also forget that they should have scored 2 goals in the first half when they cut us open. But they didn't. We were the only team to have the ball in the net, and both times it was disallowed. At least one was completely wrong. Just watched back the highlights: Obertan drags shot wide Krul saves with feet from tight angle Cisse scores (disallowed) Krul saves header well Cisse one on one saved They hit side netting from tight angle Cisse deflects cross-shot, keeper saves Sissoko overruns ball, keeper smothers They head corner narrowly wide They spoon one high and wide from tightish angle Mapou bends one over the bar Cisse shot saved from Santon cross Marveaux overruns ball, keeper smothers Cisse scores (disallowed) Cisse heads at keeper from point blank range in closing seconds We should have won the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I don't disagree Dave, i think we should have won as well. My point was that we weren't as solid defensively as some might think. My post was 'quite' shit tbh as i didn't actually mention my point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I don't disagree Dave, i think we should have won as well. My point was that we weren't as solid defensively as some might think. My post was 'quite' shit tbh as i didn't actually mention my point. They had chances 1st half. 2nd half we controlled without dominating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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