Darth Crooks Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Happy Face just can't cope with someone other than Ashley being a twat at this club. I'm on record calling Pardew a cunt. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator. Ashley is a tool granted, but after the biggest spend of any team in the January window, he can hardly take any blame for the appalling showing since then. You can always gauge how good a Manager is when the chips are down. It's about how they react to improve in areas you're struggling in. Lets look at some of the issues. Passing is still fucking shocking overall. Corners are, well I think we all know. Movement off the ball is still too static and easy to read. Lack of pressure on the ball. I could go on, but as not one of those areas have improved over the course of the season, I think it pretty much spells out he's not the right man for the job. We have improved since the window closed and the show hasn't been so appalling since then. We're 10th in the table on games since the window closed. It was the awful run before the window that fucked our season. That awful run didn't ever really end bar a few iffy wins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Just done that Chronicle thing. God that bit about what one question would you ask Pardew was so hard. There's so many questions I want answered! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The way I see it, he's not going to get sacked so we may as well try to look forward to the normal close season stuff. Next season won't be anywhere near as bad as this, it couldn't be. That's not to say Pardew will become brilliant, but we've got another year of PL football with some brilliant and likeable players ahead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Chronicle are gagging for us to sign Carroll again so they can peddle local hero gubbins. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The way I see it, he's not going to get sacked so we may as well try to look forward to the normal close season stuff. Next season won't be anywhere near as bad as this, it couldn't be. That's not to say Pardew will become brilliant, but we've got another year of PL football with some brilliant and likeable players ahead. Simply can not get enthused about the club and going to games as long as he's here tbh. He's made going to matches become a chore and a duty and I'll never forgive him for that. I can honestly say I can't see myself enjoying watching us play until he goes. He's turning me away from my club and the longer he stays the more I resent him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Happy Face just can't cope with someone other than Ashley being a t*** at this club. I'm on record calling Pardew a c***. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator. Ashley is a tool granted, but after the biggest spend of any team in the January window, he can hardly take any blame for the appalling showing since then. You can always gauge how good a Manager is when the chips are down. It's about how they react to improve in areas you're struggling in. Lets look at some of the issues. Passing is still f***ing shocking overall. Corners are, well I think we all know. Movement off the ball is still too static and easy to read. Lack of pressure on the ball. I could go on, but as not one of those areas have improved over the course of the season, I think it pretty much spells out he's not the right man for the job. We have improved since the window closed and the show hasn't been so appalling since then. We're 10th in the table on games since the window closed. It was the awful run before the window that f***ed our season. Have you actually watched us play?? We're getting results despite, not because of our form. Do you think it's acceptable to spend 21 million in January and in that time be 10th in the form league? That's an embarrassment if you ask me! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Happy Face just can't cope with someone other than Ashley being a twat at this club. I'm on record calling Pardew a cunt. We were relegation bait before Pardew and we will be after though. Ashley is the common denominator. Ashley is a tool granted, but after the biggest spend of any team in the January window, he can hardly take any blame for the appalling showing since then. You can always gauge how good a Manager is when the chips are down. It's about how they react to improve in areas you're struggling in. Lets look at some of the issues. Passing is still fucking shocking overall. Corners are, well I think we all know. Movement off the ball is still too static and easy to read. Lack of pressure on the ball. I could go on, but as not one of those areas have improved over the course of the season, I think it pretty much spells out he's not the right man for the job. We have improved since the window closed and the show hasn't been so appalling since then. We're 10th in the table on games since the window closed. It was the awful run before the window that fucked our season. and we should just paper over the recent home maulings? The show has been utterly fucking appalling. Until Wigan fucked up against Swansea, it appeared more likely than not that relegation was on the cards. Our performances throughout the season have been consistently indefensible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew? No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlelunchbox Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 People can have a go at ashley for employing this turd fair enough Have a go at ashley for not spending in the summer, fair enough. But when he opened the transfer kity and spunked off 20 mill in January , the team then went on to play even worse and dropped further down the league into a relegation dog fight. Only one turd is to blame for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'll have a few ounces of what you're on please! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The way I see it, he's not going to get sacked so we may as well try to look forward to the normal close season stuff. Next season won't be anywhere near as bad as this, it couldn't be. That's not to say Pardew will become brilliant, but we've got another year of PL football with some brilliant and likeable players ahead. Simply can not get enthused about the club and going to games as long as he's here tbh. He's made going to matches become a chore and a duty and I'll never forgive him for that. I can honestly say I can't see myself enjoying watching us play until he goes. He's turning me away from my club and the longer he stays the more I resent him. 100% this for me. Yeah I'm sure we'll be better next season as Ian says with less games etc but he's just taken all the fun out of it. With him I always expect: Tiny chance of ever beating anyone convincingly by a comfortable margin. Negative anti-football Set-pieces? Away games? Once again it's going to be a chore of a season and even when we win games, having to listen to his tripe will take the gloss off of any win for me. Plus I worry what will happen to some of my favourite players if he stays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 The way I see it, he's not going to get sacked so we may as well try to look forward to the normal close season stuff. Next season won't be anywhere near as bad as this, it couldn't be. That's not to say Pardew will become brilliant, but we've got another year of PL football with some brilliant and likeable players ahead. Not to mention some inhibited and disenfranchised players too...the worrying thing is that he wont change tack at all, it's not about whether he'll be brilliant or ok as he is incapable of it and we're in for a similar ride. He's not cut out for football management at all imo. Fold like origami under pressure/archaic anti-tactics and worst of all a complete sense of self-importance manifesting itself in pig-headed stubborness, bullshit politics and plain idiocy (in light of recent comments). He is the wrong man and the consensus and results suggest the same. Why the hell should we be happy to persist? I honestly don't see why another season wouldn't be 'anywhere near as bad'. In fact I will go on record to say that I will be looking back in hindsight at a similar run in the run up to xmas as we have had last year and yet another, lon-overdue sacking. I'm all for stability. I question Pardew's massively however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew? No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder. So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Have you actually watched us play?? We're getting results despite, not because of our form. Do you think it's acceptable to spend 21 million in January and in that time be 10th in the form league? That's an embarrassment if you ask me! QPR spent more than that in January and they're 19th in the form league, so it's better than 'arry could manage. People would probably take him over Pardew too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Aye, because teams replace half their first team in the January transfer window and go on a magic run all the time? Why is it perfectly acceptable to say Colo needed a season to adapt to the pace of the Premiership, but not to suggest that integrating 4 or 5 new first team players in the team that already wasn't doing greatly was as much a blessing in terms of much needed squad investment as it was a hindrance to have to do it mid season? People hate it when Pardew uses "excuses" for things that haven't gone well, and he himself is also to blame for our gross underperformance this season, but there is no denying the impact injuries, "Europe" and too small a squad with panic reinforcing in January have had imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. Eh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. And that has nothing to do with the manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 For once this is Pardews mess, not Ashleys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. Eh? Cisse - fractured rib. Ameobi - shite/injured. Pretty pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 So what's the solution then HF? Presumably to sell all the players and buy a new squad for Pardew? No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. Eh, you said before they're mainly relegation fodder. So sign a striker and a CB, and where do you think Pardew will have them finish? And presumably the football will be positive and attacking? Mid -table at best. We're a poorly run club from the top. Ashley has a yes man in charge of team affairs. Someone who won't be critical of him. Who will take the players he's given and never question it. It's that sort of thing that players lament once they see how it goes. Players bust a gut to finish in the top 5. They secure a massive tv cash windfall......and then they see a summer investment of £2m. that's more disheartening than anything Pardew can do. I don't think the players in 2009 or 2013 are relegation fodder, but both of them have seen players tire of the lack of ambition at the top and look less and less interested in playing for the club...or the manager, no matter who he may be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 No reason to sell particularly many, but aye, buy players for the first team (striker and CB mainly), January window was good. Just need them players to settle, our internationals to get a summer off after 2 years without a break which has strained them. It's really unfair isn't it? We must be the only team in the league with internationals in our squad. We're probably the only team in the league with two senior strikers. One playing through injury the other injured. Eh? Cisse - fractured rib. Ameobi - shite/injured. Pretty pathetic. Cisse doesn't have a fractured rib, and I'm fairly sure Gouffran is a striker. We had two of Europe's most coveted strikers between August to January, and went on the worst run of form in the club's history. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Aye, because teams replace half their first team in the January transfer window and go on a magic run all the time? Why is it perfectly acceptable to say Colo needed a season to adapt to the pace of the Premiership, but not to suggest that integrating 4 or 5 new first team players in the team that already wasn't doing greatly was as much a blessing in terms of much needed squad investment as it was a hindrance to have to do it mid season? People hate it when Pardew uses "excuses" for things that haven't gone well, and he himself is also to blame for our gross underperformance this season, but there is no denying the impact injuries, "Europe" and too small a squad with panic reinforcing in January have had imho. It's not like it's all Pardew's fault or not at all. It's just that even with injuries, Europe and investment from January onwards etc - we should have been no where near the drop zone. That much is Pardew's fault and it far outweighs any other factor several times over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinny Green Balls Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 It's absolutely absurd. He sets a decent squad up, chalk full of internationals, as if we should be one of those perennial relegation threatened, or one of those newly promoted clubs with no money. And even some of those seems to give it a go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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