Kanj Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I'd happily accept being wrong, 100%. I'd celebrate being wrong. But backing the man who got us within points of going under again is incredibly unambitious. 1 season can destroy everything that was built. We were absolutely fortunate to have the players we had and the manager to bring us back up in style. Many clubs don't enjoy that same sort of luck man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I am still not convinced that Ashley lacks ambition beyond staying in the division. I can't see him standing for another season of underachievement - if only because another season of underachievement will devalue the players we have and potentially undermine the whole blueprint. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Now that they've backed him, they're a trinity of knobs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 His blueprint is probably a lie. This thing seems to pin completely on Graham Carr working his magic, and his cheap manager throwing some players about hoping one of them work their magic. Joke. (awfully negative post, sorry) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Keeping him flies in the face of the "Ashley only cares about staying in this division" narrative, as Hughton was fired even though he'd have easily met that criteria. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Now that they've backed him, they're a trinity of knobs. It completley erased my image of them learning and gaining some sort of understanding, again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/xmFEHKy.gif Oh well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Tim Krul - Dutch International Rob Elliot Steve Harper Jak Alnwick Fabricio Coloccini - Argentinian International Davide Santon - Italian International Danny Simpson Mike Williamson Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa - French International James Perch Ryan Taylor Massadio Haïdara - French U21 International Mathieu Debuchy - French International Steven Taylor Shane Ferguson - NI International James Tavernier Yohan Cabaye - French International Moussa Sissoko - French International Vurnon Anita - Dutch International Hatem Ben Arfa - French International Dan Gosling Romain Amalfitano Jonás Gutiérrez - Argentinian International Gaël Bigirimana Sylvain Marveaux Cheick Tioté - Ivorian International Gabriel Obertan Haris Vučkić - Single handedly funded the RVI Papiss Cissé - Senegalese International Yoan Gouffran Shola Ameobi - Holds the record for least movement ever witnessed on a football pitch. Once mistaken for a statue of fat Bambi Sammy Ameobi Adam Campbell - England Youth That's the squad Ashley, Carr and Dekka have put together. Yes, it has weaknesses but it's chock full of international footballers. There is no way that squad should ever be close to relegation. MA can't influence matters on the pitch, he can only give his manager the tools to do his job at which he has failed. The off field antics have been shameful but they have given us a squad of very talented footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 We've all been fed an incredible story about a blue print and hiring the man take us forward and push on. The lies started a long time ago when he bought us and they've never stopped or learned a damn thing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Are we back to blaming Ashley now? Look at our squad, look at Sunderland's squad. In terms of on the field stuff MA and Dekka have been spot on really. We needed extra last summer but you have to say fair play, they did their bit in January. Ashley and Llambias can hardly escape the criticism since it's them that have given Pardew their vote of confidence. Who knows, maybe they'll be proved right. Let's see this thread in 6 months time and see who called it correctly. The N-O sages or the average Newcastle fan who is willing to back the imbecile. Them I hope. I'd be delighted to be proven wrong on this one. I won't because IMO Pardew's football philosophy ( jumpers and tacklers) has a ceiling and it's probably 8th at best. Sorry but I watch the top teams play football of a different class with a lot of movement and passing to feet. I will find it very difficult to accept that while he's here we will have no ambition to give this city the team it deserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I just fucking give up on this club like. He proves himself inept and other managers are sacked for less. He will set us back so many years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Very talented footballers and one player who averages double figures in a season. The squad is fucking crap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 It all goes back to the top, if the man up top has failed to identify the quality of players he's OK'd to be brought in aren't performing because the man charged to manage the football team can't, then we've got an idiot owner who's failed us once again. Its all great to see Hatem and Colo on the pitch, but Pardew and co. are completely wasting the talent on the pitch and Big Mike is just as much to blame for backing him. I'll maintain this point and hope I'm proved wrong one day, but shit won't change until Mike sell's up. Its clear as day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Absolutely irrelevant if they're internationals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister_Glass Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 http://i.imgur.com/xmFEHKy.gif Oh well. It's.... STABILITY TIME! Algebraic! (this probably does not make a lot of sense, sorry) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Very talented footballers and one player who averages double figures in a season. The squad is fucking crap. Stephen Henderson Jussi Jääskeläinen Raphael Spiegel Winston Reid George McCartney James Tomkins Joey O'Brien Emanuel Pogatetz James Collins Guy Demel Jordan Spence Danny Potts Kevin Nolan Matt Jarvis Jack Collison Matt Taylor Mark Noble Mohamed Diamé Alou Diarra Joe Cole Gary O'Neil Andy Carroll Carlton Cole Modibo Maïga Ricardo Vaz Tê Marouane Chamakh Wellington Paulista Is it better or worse than this squad? They finished 5 points ahead of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Absolutely irrelevant if they're internationals. Yes. You can't generally tell the quality of a player if he's selected out of thousands to represent his country. National teams are drawn out of a hat, that's why Obertan has so many caps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 In terms of what? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 In terms of what? In terms of potatoes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Mike Ashleys reaction soon into the new season http://i.imgur.com/tjBTMay.gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Absolutely irrelevant if they're internationals. Nicky Butt, Geremi, Alan Smith, Damien Duff, Mark Viduka, Michael Owen were all internationals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I won't speak for you but I place the blame solely on Pardew. The owner isn't my favourite but hes supported Pardew pretty much all the way and appears to be doing so again. They should sack Pardew but I understand why they aren't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Absolutely irrelevant if they're internationals. Nicky Butt, Geremi, Alan Smith, Damien Duff, Mark Viduka, Michael Owen were all internationals. All very good players in their time. Unfortunately we signed them when they were retired in all but name, over the hill, crocked, didn't give a shit, fat and a horse trainer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smal Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Absolutely irrelevant if they're internationals. Nicky Butt, Geremi, Alan Smith, Damien Duff, Mark Viduka, Michael Owen were all internationals. three of those for England a long time before they joined us, Geremi for Senegal, Duff for Ireland and Viduka occasionally for Australia. They're not really relevant examples compared to all the current internationals we have now for football nations like France, Holland and Argentina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Absolutely irrelevant if they're internationals. Nicky Butt, Geremi, Alan Smith, Damien Duff, Mark Viduka, Michael Owen were all internationals. three of those for England a long time before they joined us, Geremi for Senegal, Duff for Ireland and Viduka occasionally for Australia. They're not really relevant examples compared to all the current internationals we have now for football nations like France, Holland and Argentina. This must be what it feels like when someone finally agrees with Inochi Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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