merlin Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Guy was manger of the year. Manager of the YEAR. DOUBLE manager of the year. How many times, before OR since, has he even achieved manager of the month, let alone manager of the year. WHU, Charlton, Southampton, NUFC....and counting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 We've got s**** coaches as well. Carver, Stone and Woodman have f*** all pedigree between them. Jobs for the boys... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Jobs for the cheap and cheerful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 TBF he does seem pretty down in the interview. I think he knows the chop is near if he can't sort that defence out. If he loses the next 3 games - highly possible if not probable, on last night's showing, he will be on his bike ; the fact that Ashley bothered to turn up at Everton tells you that.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Segun Oluwaniyi Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 How many times during the last two seasons of this man's tenure have we come out for a half look confused, scared, and completely lacking a plan? Tonight was the same as Manchester City. We were lost and looked likely to concede from the first minute of the match. I am not even exaggerating this. In both matches we nearly conceded within one minute and managed to finally concede within five. How often do you see this happen at this level? How many games have we played well for a half only to capitulate in the same scared manner? The players seem to like him anyway. I feel like he would have been sacked if we hadn't fought back in that second half. Much more so than after Liverpool or Sunderland. Maybe they just have some personal pride. I really don't understand how it has gotten to this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 holy fuck look at this run of games now after cardiff we've probably got 4 nailed on defeats and the mackems who will have a new manager i'll be somewhat surprised if pardew is the manager on 11th november the way he's going Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He won't be, mate. Barring a couple of completely unexpected good results he'll be gone before Norwich. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobby_solano Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 team morale and self belief must be through the floor with this bloke in charge. feels exactly like the Allardyce days where we'd lost the match before we'd even set foot on the pitch, then using negative tactics to 'contain' teams. he should have been given the bullet last season after the Reading game, he's had way too long a stay of execution. he's not 'turning it around' and he doesn't seem to be motivating the players anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sugoinufc Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He won't be, mate. Barring a couple of completely unexpected good results he'll be gone before Norwich. hope your right. Do you seriuously believe he will be shown the door? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 If he's not gone tomorrow then I reckon he will he here until the derby or Christmas. Fucking shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 He's going nowhere unfortunately. He should have been sacked a long time ago. Every player seems to go backwards under his coaching, I truly wonder what they do in training because we look so disorganised and easy to beat in every single game we play. Not even the worst teams collapse like we can and it happens way to often. Arsenal, Man City, Everton, Liverpool, Sunderland, At Wigan few seasons back and prob a few more we just fail to turn up and Pardew bigs other teams up far to much, so negative and it shows in his players. The players should take a portion of the blame but it's his job to get most out of them and he doesn't know how to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tachikoma Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The only thing that is going to get him out the door is relegation. If he was going to be sacked for anything less than that he would have gone long ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 if we beat cardiff and the mackems then i think he might hang on but seriously, less than 6 points from the next six games and i fail to see how he'll be able to keep his job he's not had any serious injuries or europa cup games, ashley won't fall for that twice imo i think he's fucked, 'cause i don't think we'll win 2 of those games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Can't believe we set out the way we did. Shoking stuff. Can't tell at this stage whether our players are a bunch of gutless freaks or our manager just isn't very good. Probably both. Please beat Cardiff next week. You can't tell if our manager just isn't very good? He's been worse than useless for roughly 250 days, and that's a conservative estimate. I can see what's going to happen now, just as the picture begins to come into the sharpest focus everyone's going to decide its been the players fault all along. Then JFK's going to prove it for you all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Second half goals has saved him from some serious questioning by the media and ultimately the board. He limps on for a few more games. Cardiff could end him mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Thing is it does seem the fans are 50-50 split on him going. Whether it is because they believe the alternative is JFK or they think Pardew deserves a chance to prove doubters wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodson Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 Can Pardew survive the coming 6 games? Cardiff A Liverpool H Mackems A Man City H Chelsea H Spurs A I can really see us getting nothing from theese games and we should have Kinnear installed as our new manager in time for Norwich H and WBA H ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 we'll still have 7 points at the end of that I fear Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 The thing is, no matter how s*** ideas you may have, it's remarkable not being able to communicate or illustrate anything resembling a footballing philosophy after three years in charge. We can't defend as a unit, we can't attack as a unit. We have no coherence anywhere on the pitch and rely on individual decision making in every part of the game. Nobody knows what territory to mark or occupy, nobody knows what spaces to run into or whether to keep hold of the ball or attack. We have no f***ing clue. It's every man for him self out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 We're shit at home. Those will be painful fixtures in front of the home crowd, Pardew will have to his best Excuses game ready for it. If we are to replace Pardew then we could use the new guy starting with a better run of fixtures so a honeymoon period could inject some confidence into the side while we build a defence/attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I would happily finish 16th this season and see these things happen: - Sack Pardew - Blood the youngsters like Sammy, Dummett, Campbell - Increase british players in the team - Attack teams and not worry about them It's about time we truly blood our youngsters for 5 or 10 games rather than odd sub appearance, willing to take the short term pain if it looks like we are trying to build something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I can see us losing to Cardiff and the rest but beating a big team and Pardew getting confidence. At this point of time, I don't see how Joe Kinnear could seriously be worse. I haven't seen us this bad since I started supporting the club. I mean, even under the relegation season we weren't this bad tactically, we were just absolute horseshit individually. We had one of the worst squads in the league. Now I want to believe we have at least a top 10 side, but Pardew is absolutely killing it. We have no defensive shape, no offensive gameplan, and worst of all, we have no fight in us. Sure, a lot is down to the players but it's up to Pardew to stop spreading his legs like a cracked coconut and allow this to happen. Ben Arfa on the left last night was the biggest joke this season. Been our best player this season and has started on the right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRC Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 When was the the last time we lost 7 league games in a row? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I cant see much changing, we will go into the Cardiff game with a similar attitude and end up losing. At this moment in time, I cant see a way out of this for Pardew, I cant see him turning things about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted October 1, 2013 Share Posted October 1, 2013 I can see us losing to Cardiff and the rest but beating a big team and Pardew getting confidence. At this point of time, I don't see how Joe Kinnear could seriously be worse. I haven't seen us this bad since I started supporting the club. I mean, even under the relegation season we weren't this bad tactically, we were just absolute horseshit individually. We had one of the worst squads in the league. Now I want to believe we have at least a top 10 side, but Pardew is absolutely killing it. We have no defensive shape, no offensive gameplan, and worst of all, we have no fight in us. Sure, a lot is down to the players but it's up to Pardew to stop spreading his legs like a cracked coconut and allow this to happen. Ben Arfa on the left last night was the biggest joke this season. Been our best player this season and has started on the right. From the Hull game, bearing in mind it was our defensive display that fucked us. He replaced 2 attackers in Cabaye and Cisse, Moved Sissokho out of position to attacking midfield, Moved Remy to centre, Gouffran to right (He hasn't even played there for us) and Ben Arfa to Left. Did he really need to change 4 players positions against Everton to be getting beat 3-0 by half time anyway. Surely he should have been working on organisation and sensible option would have been to make subtle changes not a total of 6 changes for this game. The bloke is a total cock end, we need to be more organised when off the ball and press teams into mistakes, not shit ourselves every time they have the ball ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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