Alan Pardew

[BrettNUFC]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

What do you base that on? I don't recall anyone being on Keegan's back or Hughton's, because they were doing a decent job.

 

I was on Hughton's back a fair bit like, never thought he was good enough for us like and we should be looking to upgrade even though he did an excellent job in championship.

[TRon]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

What do you base that on? I don't recall anyone being on Keegan's back or Hughton's, because they were doing a decent job.

 

I was on Hughton's back a fair bit like, never thought he was good enough for us like and we should be looking to upgrade even though he did an excellent job in championship.

 

So you were on Hughton's back despite the fact he got us promoted and finishing in a very respectable position in the premier first time round, yet you have a problem with people having a go at Pardew?

[BrettNUFC]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

What do you base that on? I don't recall anyone being on Keegan's back or Hughton's, because they were doing a decent job.

 

I was on Hughton's back a fair bit like, never thought he was good enough for us like and we should be looking to upgrade even though he did an excellent job in championship.

 

So you were on Hughton's back despite the fact he got us promoted and finishing in a very respectable position in the premier first time round, yet you have a problem with people having a go at Pardew?

 

Have i said i have a problem with it? Just because I’ll voice an opinion against someone elses doesn’t mean to say I have a problem with them. I've always said i do understand why people hate Pardew but personally i'm just backing him to turn it around because he has the players to do so rather than I actually think he is any good. Along with the fact after I thought Ashley did the right think in binning CH, he followed it up with a disastrous appointment and don’t trust him again to make a good judgement call especially now with Kinnear doing the advising.

 

I thought Hughton did his job, got us back in the prem but never felt he could take us any further, thought we should have upgraded but we didn't, rather just side stepped.

 

[Guest firetotheworks]

Fucking hell, what load of horse shit.

 

Backing Pardew because of the players that he has, but don't think he's any good. That makes absolutely no sense.

[Guest reefatoon]

Really skewed logic there mind Brett.

[BrettNUFC]

f***ing hell, what load of horse s***.

 

Backing Pardew because of the players that he has, but don't think he's any good. That makes absolutely no sense.

 

Said it loads, he's capable of getting a good running going but if things spiral out of control over next couple of games, he's not good enough to get us out of it like he showed last season. If the players get some confidence and a formation starts to work well, results will come under him regardless of his ability because we have a talented bunch. I don't want Pardew sacked simply because i'm not sure i could handle another disastrous appointment without having a meltdown.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

I was just so sick of the constant changes of manager and chaos at the club that I wanted a bit of stability. I didn't anticipate that Ashley would manage to retain Pardew and the chaos would still happen (JFK). I would give him a bit longer, but if I could guarantee that Ashley would appoint someone for actual footballing reasons I couldn't really argue with a sacking.

[toptoon]

For Hull and Everton our team should have been:

 

                  Krul

Debuchy Mbiwa  Colo  Santon

          Anita          Sissoko

                  Cabaye

    HBA                        Remy

                  Gouffran

 

This is not just in hindsight most of us wanted this before the games. Why Pardew decided upon what he did really does baffle most of us. The team above i feel would have stood far more of a chance. We have now lost both our momentum and confidence that we had built up which really is a big thing in football. Well done Pardew !! 

[Ronaldo]

I don't get why Cabaye keeps getting put in an attacking midfield position, like.

[Lotus]

I don't get why Cabaye keeps getting put in an attacking midfield position, like.

 

I think it's the genuine lack of options tbh.

[toptoon]

We've definitely had a lot worse than Pardew: Alladyce, Gullit, Souness, Roeder etc were all terrible for us and Daglish really dragged us down too. So i wouldn't sack him unless we were 100% sure we had a very good replacement lined up which i really doubt we have

 

Hughton was brilliant for us considering the circumstances and i disagreed with his sacking then and now. Norwich finished above us last season with far inferior players which says it all really. I do wonder what Hughton could do with our lot now and i am sure he'd be better than Pardew.

[toptoon]

I don't get why Cabaye keeps getting put in an attacking midfield position, like.

 

I think it's the genuine lack of options tbh.

 

...or because its his best position maybe ? He doesn't get played there enough !

 

He's not all that great in the tackle and forever mistiming them and giving away freekicks etc. However he really does have a great shot and eye for goal and is a very good passer of the ball ! Attacking midfielder is clearly his best position !

[AyeDubbleYoo]

He looks lost to me in the more advanced role, but he'll probably learn it given time. It definitely suits the other midfielders best.

[BrettNUFC]

I don't get why Cabaye keeps getting put in an attacking midfield position, like.

 

I think it's the genuine lack of options tbh.

 

...or because its his best position maybe ?

 

He's not all that great in the tackle and forever mistiming them and giving away freekicks etc. However he really does have a great shot and eye for goal and is a very good passer of the ball ! Attacking midfielder is clearly his best position !

 

It's really not 

 

 

[Lotus]

People go on about this 4-3-3 as if it was a well practised formation we're used to getting results with. It worked against Villa, that's it!

 

Have no idea what could get us working, none at all. We could try this i suppose. Lacks width though but seeing as we don't use that well anyway may not matter much...

 

..........................Back 5........................

 

........Sissoko......Cabaye.......Anita...........

 

.................HBA...........Marveaux.............

 

..........................Remy...........................

 

 

 

 

Feliz Natal!

[toptoon]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

What do you base that on? I don't recall anyone being on Keegan's back or Hughton's, because they were doing a decent job.

 

I was on Hughton's back a fair bit like, never thought he was good enough for us like and we should be looking to upgrade even though he did an excellent job in championship.

 

So you were on Hughton's back despite the fact he got us promoted and finishing in a very respectable position in the premier first time round, yet you have a problem with people having a go at Pardew?

 

Have i said i have a problem with it? Just because I’ll voice an opinion against someone elses doesn’t mean to say I have a problem with them. I've always said i do understand why people hate Pardew but personally i'm just backing him to turn it around because he has the players to do so rather than I actually think he is any good. Along with the fact after I thought Ashley did the right think in binning CH, he followed it up with a disastrous appointment and don’t trust him again to make a good judgement call especially now with Kinnear doing the advising.

 

I thought Hughton did his job, got us back in the prem but never felt he could take us any further, thought we should have upgraded but we didn't, rather just side stepped.

 

 

After this post Brett i can't take you all that seriously 

[Guest reefatoon]

We've definitely had a lot worse than Pardew: Alladyce, Gullit, Souness, Roeder etc were all terrible for us and Daglish really dragged us down too. So i wouldn't sack him unless we were 100% sure we had a very good replacement lined up which i really doubt we have

 

Hughton was brilliant for us considering the circumstances and i disagreed with his sacking then and now. Norwich finished above us last season with far inferior players which says it all really. I do wonder what Hughton could do with our lot now and i am sure he'd be better than Pardew.

 

I think Pardew is on a level with all those you have mentioned. No way was that list you mentioned a lot worse than Pardew.  Not one of those mentioned finished lower in the league than the clem we have in charge now.

[Disco]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

[Disco]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

 

Probably but I'm of the radical opinion that having a bit of expectation and optimism is a good thing in football.

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

 

Probably but I'm of the radical opinion that having a bit of expectation and optimism is a good thing in football.

 

Me too, I don't object to it, I just mean that it's a bit naive to think that people would be happy with anything but a relegation battle.

[TRon]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

 

If it was just the 14th position that was the problem then we could be accused of over-reacting. Let's face it though it's the increasingly regular capitulations that have people worried. 3-0 v Sunderland. 6-0 v Liverpool, 4-0 v City, 3-0 at half time v Everton. Can you really say it's just fans over-reacting?

 

 

[AyeDubbleYoo]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

 

If it was just the 14th position that was the problem then we could be accused of over-reacting. Let's face it though it's the increasingly regular capitulations that have people worried. 3-0 v Sunderland. 6-0 v Liverpool, 4-0 v City, 3-0 at half time v Everton. Can you really say it's just fans over-reacting?

 

 

I didn't accuse anyone of overreacting.

[Disco]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

 

Probably but I'm of the radical opinion that having a bit of expectation and optimism is a good thing in football.

 

Me too, I don't object to it, I just mean that it's a bit naive to think that people would be happy with anything but a relegation battle.

 

Hence why I said providing the football and results improve, particularly the former.

 

Allardyce, Pulis or some other knacker could come in and keep us around 13th but few would enjoy it. I want to be able to enjoy what I see watching us again or at the very least see that we're working towards some sort of playing plan. I don't see this at all, we had one poor defensive half against Hull and it was straight back to rigid 4-4-2 as soon as he could for the second half and again for Everton.

 

In a way I'd almost like us to be fairly predictable (in terms of results) & not range from the acceptable to the ridiculous within 45 minutes or less for a change.

 

Albeit Pardew isn't helped by those above him but he knew fine well what he was getting in too when he lucked out and got appointed in the first place so I have no sympathy for him there.

[TRon]

 

If they sack him it wont be long till we're on the next guys back. (I don't think Kinnear will get the job)

 

We're stuck between a rock and a hard place.

 

 

Providing the football and results improve to have us not worrying about relegation I don't the fans (majority) would be unless it was totally unpopular appointment in the first instance.

 

Expectations have been successfully dampened so much that this is all most want to see.

 

Unfortunately Pardew he talks a good game about what he wants to deliver but 80+% of the time since we came 5th he hasn't been able to deliver it.

 

The expectations would switch back quickly enough though wouldn't they? I'm not saying that's wrong, but I don't buy the idea that we would be saying "we're 14th, no worries".

 

If it was just the 14th position that was the problem then we could be accused of over-reacting. Let's face it though it's the increasingly regular capitulations that have people worried. 3-0 v Sunderland. 6-0 v Liverpool, 4-0 v City, 3-0 at half time v Everton. Can you really say it's just fans over-reacting?

 

 

I didn't accuse anyone of overreacting.

 

But the insinuation is the same - the fans have too high expectations, and when Pardew gets sacked we'll be moaning at the next manager if we're 14th. Not so IMO. It's the direction and progress that's important, not a singular position in the league table.