Happy Face Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're shit and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 can't we lock this thread until the next game or something? What, and spoil Inochi's fun? It was dozing along quite nicely until he poked it in the arse with a pointy stick, the scamp. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Should really label your axes, man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Should really label your axes, man. Agree. Imagine you get your broadaxe confused with your felling axe? You'd never live it down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Should really label your axes, man. It's all bollocks cos I wasn't in work after the Everton game so I missed that defeat off of my spreadsheet. Think it's time to hang up my t distribution table. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're shit and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're shit and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Arguing over Pardew is one thing. I'm not daft enough to get into the debate of whether we should "accomodate" Ben Arfa rather than actually ask him to try and win the ball back when we're in the shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Arguing over Pardew is one thing. I'm not daft enough to get into the debate of whether we should "accomodate" Ben Arfa rather than actually ask him to try and win the ball back when we're in the s***. I have a feeling that Pardew is less unhappy about that and more that he doesn't look to bring others into the game as much as he should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manosdepiedra Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Pardew's limited to say the least, but is he completely responsible for the players mentally withdrawing and physically shrinking the second Cardiff scored? They lost heart. Their heads went down. Not as much as on other occasions (Liverpool at home last sesson springs to mind) but they still did. Then they rallied a bit and we got a good result, and overall it was a good performance. We need 2 things for your vision to be realised; they need to stop feeling sorry for themsleves and they need a couple of leaders in the Nolan/Barton mould. I agree the team has bags of talent, but it doesnt have a lot of heart. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest firetotheworks Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Pardew's limited to say the least, but is he completely responsible for the players mentally withdrawing and physically shrinking the second Cardiff scored? They lost heart. Their heads went down. Not as much as on other occasions (Liverpool at home last sesson springs to mind) but they still did. Then they rallied a bit and we got a good result, and overall it was a good performance. We need 2 things for your vision to be realised; they need to stop feeling sorry for themsleves and they need a couple of leaders in the Nolan/Barton mould. I agree the team has bags of talent, but it doesnt have a lot of heart. Yes, he is. If it was a one-off I would agree, but this is no blip, it's the way that we do things. Whether Pardew is to blame for that in the first place is another matter(although I'd be surprised if they all had that as part of their personalities), but he is to blame for allowing it to continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Pardew's limited to say the least, but is he completely responsible for the players mentally withdrawing and physically shrinking the second Cardiff scored? They lost heart. Their heads went down. Not as much as on other occasions (Liverpool at home last sesson springs to mind) but they still did. Then they rallied a bit and we got a good result, and overall it was a good performance. We need 2 things for your vision to be realised; they need to stop feeling sorry for themsleves and they need a couple of leaders in the Nolan/Barton mould. I agree the team has bags of talent, but it doesnt have a lot of heart. Agree with a lot of that, like. It was good to see Cabaye letting his mouth go on Saturday, in that little period after their goal where we looked a certainty to concede another. We calmed down a touch, not long after. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Pardew's limited to say the least, but is he completely responsible for the players mentally withdrawing and physically shrinking the second Cardiff scored? They lost heart. Their heads went down. Not as much as on other occasions (Liverpool at home last sesson springs to mind) but they still did. Then they rallied a bit and we got a good result, and overall it was a good performance. We need 2 things for your vision to be realised; they need to stop feeling sorry for themsleves and they need a couple of leaders in the Nolan/Barton mould. I agree the team has bags of talent, but it doesnt have a lot of heart. I don't get the feeling that the players fear for their place enough under Pardew. We've seen Tiote, Cabaye and Cisse getting picked regardless of how much work they put in previously. Players know they can take the piss and get away with it to some extent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. i apologise You're spot on. just my perception. Probably clouded by Wullie's insistence that things have never been this bad in 15 years It's much easier to cope with the manager if the players are bollocks. Having to be in a position where players with real talent and pedigree look absolute toss and we can't accommodate Hatem Ben Arfa because he doesn't graft enough is unbelievably depressing. I've never been more frustrated as a Newcastle fan because I can see how close it is, that doesn't necessarily mean things are at their worst. Pardew's limited to say the least, but is he completely responsible for the players mentally withdrawing and physically shrinking the second Cardiff scored? They lost heart. Their heads went down. Not as much as on other occasions (Liverpool at home last sesson springs to mind) but they still did. Then they rallied a bit and we got a good result, and overall it was a good performance. We need 2 things for your vision to be realised; they need to stop feeling sorry for themsleves and they need a couple of leaders in the Nolan/Barton mould. I agree the team has bags of talent, but it doesnt have a lot of heart. I don't get the feeling that the players fear for their place enough under Pardew. We've seen Tiote, Cabaye and Cisse getting picked regardless of how much work they put in previously. Players know they can take the piss and get away with it to some extent. Agree with that. Except of course, your name is Hatem Ben Arfa. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 This thread is like Vanessa Feltz sitting with her gash out. You know for a fact it is going to be disgusting to look at, but you just can't help yourself looking anyway, and when you do, you end up annoyed and feeling a little queasy, yet you always come back for another glance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexf Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Missed most of the talk in here today but people were talking about 8th placed finishes. I would be delighted with 8th this season. We're going to be fighting with the likes of west brom, southampton, swansea etc and if we came 8th it would mean we were the best of the rest outside the usual top 7. Nothing to be particularly proud of but would be a decent season considering the lack of investment and ambition from the board and the quality of our manager. There will always be people that defend the manger no matter what, it's their right and it's to be expected. I mean their were still people supporting Souness right up to the end ffs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. You talking about Ronaldo then? lol... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 The Wigan game before the Stoke cup tie, the away fans booed Allardyce for touching the ball. They also chanted we're s*** and we're sick of it. The Liverpool game had the home fans applauding Liverpool fan's for chanting Big Sam for England, before joining in themselves. It's an obtuse point but at times the board is dogged by posters who post in nothing but absolutist prose. Even if you type like you're right all the time, you're not. You talking about Ronaldo then? f y p Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 This thread is like Vanessa Feltz sitting with her gash out. You know for a fact it is going to be disgusting to look at, but you just can't help yourself looking anyway, and when you do, you end up annoyed and feeling a little queasy, yet you always come back for another glance. Is this aimed in my direction ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 This thread is like Vanessa Feltz sitting with her gash out. You know for a fact it is going to be disgusting to look at, but you just can't help yourself looking anyway, and when you do, you end up annoyed and feeling a little queasy, yet you always come back for another glance. Is this aimed in my direction ?. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BrettNUFC Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Coming in 8th out of 20 is something that would please you. That just absolutely boggles my mind. Is there a back four among the leagues best 7 clubs you would not swap with? I'd prefer to have the ones we've got being coached correctly before I'd go rushing out to swap anyone. What's the next painfully depressing and wildly incorrect prediction Wullie? Took us 2 games to rise above the 16th position we supposedly wouldn't move from all season. I leave the painfully depressing stuff to the "8th is fantastic" brigade. Brett? He's quoted it like i've said that. Wullie thinks we should be pushing into top 6 but thinks we are in a relegation battle, ambitious pessimistic clown What on Earth are you talking about man? My position has always been that the players are comfortably good enough to compete for European qualification whilst the manager is not close to being Premier League quality and drags them down, fails to get the best out of them and leaves us constantly less than the sum of our parts. How does any of that contradict what I've said? I think you're sitting on the fence a bit, if we finish top 8, you'll say well so he should with that group of players, if we finish in another relegation battle, you'll be blaming the manager and not the players. Fwiw i don't think even a good manager would get us into top 6 this season, i think Everton have themselves a good manager and a similar standard of squad to ours but don't think he'll manage it, they will be similar to us where we will try and fight for it but will come up short in the end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Feltz' gash is back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Feltz' gash is back. Didn't realise i was the gash personally, i was assuming you meant the thread in general Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 Coming in 8th out of 20 is something that would please you. That just absolutely boggles my mind. Is there a back four among the leagues best 7 clubs you would not swap with? I'd prefer to have the ones we've got being coached correctly before I'd go rushing out to swap anyone. What's the next painfully depressing and wildly incorrect prediction Wullie? Took us 2 games to rise above the 16th position we supposedly wouldn't move from all season. I leave the painfully depressing stuff to the "8th is fantastic" brigade. Brett? He's quoted it like i've said that. Wullie thinks we should be pushing into top 6 but thinks we are in a relegation battle, ambitious pessimistic clown What on Earth are you talking about man? My position has always been that the players are comfortably good enough to compete for European qualification whilst the manager is not close to being Premier League quality and drags them down, fails to get the best out of them and leaves us constantly less than the sum of our parts. How does any of that contradict what I've said? I think you're sitting on the fence a bit, if we finish top 8, you'll say well so he should with that group of players, if we finish in another relegation battle, you'll be blaming the manager and not the players. Fwiw i don't think even a good manager would get us into top 6 this season, i think Everton have themselves a good manager and a similar standard of squad to ours but don't think he'll manage it, they will be similar to us where we will try and fight for it but will come up short in the end. Sitting on the fence on what sense? I think the manager is obscenely shit at his job. What part of that sentence constitutes sitting on the fence? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted October 7, 2013 Share Posted October 7, 2013 It's got nothing to do with where we finish, top 8 isn't a massive achievement on it's own (we were 8 points off it last season and we were nearly relegated.) We just should be up there competing for a European place playing a non-cowardly style of football that isn't mind numbingly boring. The actual position we finish in doesn't really matter (to a degree) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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