jdckelly Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 is this thread about pardew anymore? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 is this thread about pardew anymore? 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Every time I come into this thread I come out more confused than when I came in ffs 60% of the Time, It Works Every Time..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Many of Happy faces stats are genuinely interesting and he does an admirable job of keeping up with them. It's just annoying when people try to paint a clearly skewed picture with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 Many of Happy faces stats are genuinely interesting and he does an admirable job of keeping up with them. It's just annoying when people try to paint a clearly skewed picture with them. Exactly what i couldn't find the words to describe it. Stats in themselves are quite interesing but when you use them to try prove something that needs much more than that, well i kind of go arghhhh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'm genuinely baffled here now.... when i came in at lunch time i saw some post from Foluwashola about finishing 8th/9th which i was going to respond to but now i don't have a f*cking clue what is going on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I'd be all for more stats posted outside of this thread, put it that way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I don't mind stats sometimes, on occasion they can be interesting to read if nothing else. Its the people that use them as why they are right shit i can't stand, but i don't feel Happy Face does that tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 I dont need stats to tell me that Pardew is better than Souness, Roeder or Gullit. I dont need stats to tell me Sir Bobby was better than Pardew. I dont need stats that say we've played better football this season than we did last season(we are by a mile). The thing with all that, different squads, different opposition, different tactics. Everything that stats cant show that affect things. My eyes and what i've seen from us tells me all i need to know. We are playing better football now, than we ever have at any time under Pardew imo, yet stats dont show you just how nervy we get when having a lead. And thats been something thats been there his whole rein. Judgment is better than stats. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belfast Mags Posted November 26, 2013 Share Posted November 26, 2013 A good manager makes any team under his control more than the sum of its parts. A bad manager makes any team under his control less than the sum of its parts. That is all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The stats are an interesting adjunct to fuel debate. They only tell a partial story and are in no way debate clinchers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The stats are an interesting adjunct to fuel debate. They only tell a partial story and are in no way debate clinchers. if this thread, (and it's 1,2? predecessors) has proven anything it's that there will never be a debate clincher on pardew like - we'll be arguing like this to the end of his 8 year contract happy face - get your microsoft excel 2016 pre-order in, bimpy fire up the .gifs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezertron Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Stats belong in American sports. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzza Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I dont need stats to tell me that Pardew is better than Souness, Roeder or Gullit. I dont need stats to tell me Sir Bobby was better than Pardew. I dont need stats that say we've played better football this season than we did last season(we are by a mile). The thing with all that, different squads, different opposition, different tactics. Everything that stats cant show that affect things. My eyes and what i've seen from us tells me all i need to know. We are playing better football now, than we ever have at any time under Pardew imo, yet stats dont show you just how nervy we get when having a lead. And thats been something thats been there his whole rein. Judgment is better than stats. Agree with this 100%. N.B. Doesn't mean I still think that we are not getting the most out of what we have... But well done anyway! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Bit of praise for Pardew on F365: http://www.football365.com/f365-says/9043051/Forget-The-Smugness-And-Credit-Pardew Spoiled a bit by some of the usual tired stereotypes, but not a bad article. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4eva Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I dont need stats to tell me that Pardew is better than Souness, Roeder or Gullit. I dont need stats to tell me Sir Bobby was better than Pardew. I dont need stats that say we've played better football this season than we did last season(we are by a mile). The thing with all that, different squads, different opposition, different tactics. Everything that stats cant show that affect things. My eyes and what i've seen from us tells me all i need to know. We are playing better football now, than we ever have at any time under Pardew imo, yet stats dont show you just how nervy we get when having a lead. And thats been something thats been there his whole rein. Judgment is better than stats. Stats are so gay and only tell half the story, you are right, I have seen all our games last 3 seasons bar maybe 1 or 2 and I don't give a fuck what stats would tell you we were horrific last season to watch, horrible but effective in first half of finishing 5th season, good counter attacking in second half of that season. So far this season hit and miss, bit inconsistent but a real effort to keep and control the ball in our half, less aimless punts and a move towards counter attacking football. We have not been brilliant but are getting closer to being effective again. Need to sort out playing full pelt for 90 mins mind, only played well in one half most games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 OMG - I cant believe there are thousands of posts on this forum debating the merits of stats. Of course Stats tell a story, and of course they are important. Of course they arent the only factor, and of course they dont track every single thing. Do we really need to debate this to death? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 http://filipspagnoli.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/statistical-joke.jpg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BottledDog Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I dont need stats to tell me that Pardew is better than Souness, Roeder or Gullit. I dont need stats to tell me Sir Bobby was better than Pardew. I dont need stats that say we've played better football this season than we did last season(we are by a mile). The thing with all that, different squads, different opposition, different tactics. Everything that stats cant show that affect things. My eyes and what i've seen from us tells me all i need to know. We are playing better football now, than we ever have at any time under Pardew imo, yet stats dont show you just how nervy we get when having a lead. And thats been something thats been there his whole rein. Judgment is better than stats. Stats are so gay and only tell half the story, you are right, I have seen all our games last 3 seasons bar maybe 1 or 2 and I don't give a fuck what stats would tell you we were horrific last season to watch, horrible but effective in first half of finishing 5th season, good counter attacking in second half of that season. So far this season hit and miss, bit inconsistent but a real effort to keep and control the ball in our half, less aimless punts and a move towards counter attacking football. We have not been brilliant but are getting closer to being effective again. Need to sort out playing full pelt for 90 mins mind, only played well in one half most games Your judgement adds nothing new that the stats haven't already told us. Your opinions are redundant. Submit to the numbers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 76.898372% of all statistics are made up Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 I dont need stats to tell me that Pardew is better than Souness, Roeder or Gullit. I dont need stats to tell me Sir Bobby was better than Pardew. I dont need stats that say we've played better football this season than we did last season(we are by a mile). The thing with all that, different squads, different opposition, different tactics. Everything that stats cant show that affect things. My eyes and what i've seen from us tells me all i need to know. We are playing better football now, than we ever have at any time under Pardew imo, yet stats dont show you just how nervy we get when having a lead. And thats been something thats been there his whole rein. Judgment is better than stats. Stats are so gay and only tell half the story, you are right, I have seen all our games last 3 seasons bar maybe 1 or 2 and I don't give a fuck what stats would tell you we were horrific last season to watch, horrible but effective in first half of finishing 5th season, good counter attacking in second half of that season. So far this season hit and miss, bit inconsistent but a real effort to keep and control the ball in our half, less aimless punts and a move towards counter attacking football. We have not been brilliant but are getting closer to being effective again. Need to sort out playing full pelt for 90 mins mind, only played well in one half most games I'll never be convinced by Pardew as a coach or person, especially after the 'let win for Mike' disgusting comment. But I've been quite encouraged by football and I cant deny what I see and our football has been better. I know we've gone far too defensive in games when leading, but even then we haven't resorted to hoofing it away, we've tried to counter by playing it out. Ok not very well but it's still encouraging that it's not just a hoof out. The movement and consistent pattern of play is still not there but it's been much better, to watch and actually enjoy a bit this season. Not saying Pardew will get it right as I think he's not got enough ability to do that. I support Newcastle United and whatever I think of him, if he does make us very good, i'll be happy enough. I'll add though, as soon as Ashley, Pardew, the fat tramp and the rest of Ashley's cronies are gone, it won't be a day too soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest firetotheworks Posted November 28, 2013 Share Posted November 28, 2013 Proper old bloke humour that like. You've all just outed yourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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