AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Tbh, I wouldn't count 8th as 'bouncing back' considering an extra 3 wins would have got us to 8th this season. Unless those 3 wins were all after January, it still would have been an atrocious season. You make it sound like an extra 3 wins is nothing, that's 9 points, that is going to lift you up a fair deal no matter what position you are in. Yes the football we have played has been shocking, mainly second half performances however. I don't believe for a single second this was all Pardew's fault, not totally anyways like people say. Going on like he’s telling us to put 9 men behind the ball and hoof to Cisse when given the chance simply because we’ve won the first half 1-0 or whatever. Utter nonsense. I think it was plain to see the players struggled to cope with the pressure and with confidence very low after the abysmal season, resulted in us not taking the game back to the opposition once things started to go in the oppositions favour. No doubt Pardew takes a large share of the blame as well, he should be able to instil a belief back in the players, he should be making his changes at better times, with better choice of personnel but not for one second do i believe he’s cost us all these dreadful second half performances due to his half time team talks simply being, lets defend for our lives and don’t go forward. I can certainly see us putting up a very different show next season and might even surprise one or two in a positive way. But time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 "No interest" in Andy Carroll according to SSN but Pardew has already said he wants him. Am I reading too much into this? Absolutely yes. But still.... Don't do it to yourself man. I can't help it, I just hate the man so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varadi Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Interesting read: Rafa Casting Shadow Over Pardew? http://www.football365.com/f365-says/8728047/F365-Says Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Interesting read: Rafa Casting Shadow Over Pardew? http://www.football365.com/f365-says/8728047/F365-Says It might be baseless speculation but it's good quality baseless speculation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallowgate Toon Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm strangely optimistic for next year, I think we'll refine our transfer policy a little (aka we'll bring in a style that Pardew wants, but not from England) and we'll do well. I'm not too fussed if we go 4-4-2, we saw on Sunday that we can make it work with an outlet, Gouffran's pace in this instance, and play good, direct football using it. Discounting outgoings for now, if we add 2 wingers (one for the first team, one squad player), a target man striker (a plan B) and a centre half, we'll do alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I'm optimistic in the sense that it can only be better than this season, and if nothing else it's a fresh start for the players without all the fear of relegation and negativity around them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Benitez won't go to Napoli. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Benitez won't go to Napoli. Porquoi? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Benitez won't go to Napoli. Porquoi? Dosen't fit his persona. The club is as mad as a box of frogs with political intrigue and infighting as bad as the last days of the Roman empire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mouldy_uk Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Is there meant to be some sort of meeting between Pardew and Ashley today to decide on next season, or have I just made that up? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If Ashley really wanted Benitez I think he could be got. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenige Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 I hate this thread so much. It's essentially the same thing said page after page, yet for some bizarre reason I keep coming back expecting to read something different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If Ashley really wanted Benitez I think he could be got. I think so as well. I also think it's possible that Ashley would go for it if he saw a real chance of some proper success. On the other hand, I still think keeping Pards is the most likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If Ashley really wanted Benitez I think he could be got. This. I would be massively surprised if Benitez would snub us IF we met his demands and he was given suitable control. Obviously Mike is highly unlikely to meet those demands though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TenkoDaLuz Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 NEXT YEAR WILL BE NUFC'S YEAR! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If Ashley really wanted Benitez I think he could be got. This. I would be massively surprised if Benitez would snub us IF we met his demands and he was given suitable control. Obviously Mike is highly unlikely to meet those demands though. I don't know if we could even deal with a manager like that... not sure anyone at the club has the ability to even discuss it with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Benitez would be very interested but it depends on a) getting rid of Pardew and b) him not going to Napoli/PSG. It's looking more unlikely by the day, unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanSkÃrare Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Is there meant to be some sort of meeting between Pardew and Ashley today to decide on next season, or have I just made that up? According to Douglas etc. there is a meeting today, yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Howaythetoon Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Comments from Pardew 1 year ago: "I’m hoping that I will educate our fans for next season. "If they think we can finish fifth with a European campaign and the finances we’ve got, it’s impossible. I honestly believe that you need to be a bit more open with the fans. The problem some managers have is they’re not open enough. "This year, I’m sure we’ll say something like, ‘We’re looking for a top-eight finish, hopefully attack one of the cups and have a great run in Europe. I wouldn’t say we couldn’t challenge for the top six if we got knocked out of Europe. Then we wouldn’t have those extra 13 games." Yet at his talk-in a few months later he said the aim was the top 4 and the CL and although he did admit Europe was a pain, he did say we would be trying to win that and every other cup we were in. The man is walking contradiction and a complete and utter fraud as a result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hobshobs Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If Ashley really wanted Benitez I think he could be got. This. I would be massively surprised if Benitez would snub us IF we met his demands and he was given suitable control. Obviously Mike is highly unlikely to meet those demands though. I don't know if we could even deal with a manager like that... not sure anyone at the club has the ability to even discuss it with him. Brilliantly put. Agree 100% Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 If Ashley really wanted Benitez I think he could be got. This. I would be massively surprised if Benitez would snub us IF we met his demands and he was given suitable control. Obviously Mike is highly unlikely to meet those demands though. I don't know if we could even deal with a manager like that... not sure anyone at the club has the ability to even discuss it with him. Then it really just comes down to whether Ashley wants to grow the club or just survive. It might be tempting for him to just keep treading water, but it's not as simple as that. We are signing players with ambition and I doubt they will want to be here just to survive. Benitez might be a prickly character, but the best managers usually are as Abramovich has found out at Chelsea the hard way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sure. I meant 'deal with' more in the sense of even being able to talk to him in a common language. I think it's just possible Ashley might see an appealing chance for success, but it's got to be unlikely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Sure. I meant 'deal with' more in the sense of even being able to talk to him in a common language. I think it's just possible Ashley might see an appealing chance for success, but it's got to be unlikely. I think this is the first time things have gone tits up in his reign and he hasn't got the blame. That's gotta make him a little bit happy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hughesy Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 What's frustrating is that I'm absolutely certain that if we appointed Benitez and gave him 4-5 years, he would win us a trophy of some kind and a few European campaigns. It might only be a League Cup that we won, but I wouldn't care.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Stan Collymore @StanCollymore 4m Whelan '' Martinez wants 24hrs more to make his decision, my gut feeling is he wants to stay, tomorrow is D-day''. @talkSPORT LIVE Hope he's waiting for the outcome of this meeting. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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