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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

Whilst this is correct, you cannot expect said idiot to just take the debt on the chin and scratch it off as "his bad". NUFC's shit management made the debt, NUFC will pay off the debt.

 

Not that I think this should affect our transfer spending in any way.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?)

 

How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club?

 

This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?)

 

How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club?

 

This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring.

 

That's wrong about Liverpool.  They were forced to sell the club due to not being able to payback the banks who lent them the money to buy the club.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?)

 

How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club?

 

This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring.

 

fuck off wullie man, alls i'm saying is noone can expect anyone to just write off 100m

 

in an ideal world he'd be smart and realise success is the way to money but we don't live in an ideal world

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

 

So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view?

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

 

So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view?

 

I would allow him £2.5m

 

Deal?

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

It's his own company we're talking about here, not two separate entities. NUFC can't run off with his cash. There's absolutely no way it's acceptable for us to spend £0 in transfer fees so that he can get his money back (does he have a big leccy bill or something?)

 

How much is ok for him to take out in your view then? Just what we would have spent in transfers or can we go ahead and take the lot and bankrupt the club?

 

This attitude amongst our fans of "he's the owner, he can do what he wants" is disgusting tbh. Ronaldo's right about the pathetic specimens we have become. The Yank cunts tried this with Liverpool and were ran out of town, it didn't matter how much money they had, the fans made their position untenable. We just carry right on licking Ashley's ring.

 

fuck off wullie man, alls i'm saying is noone can expect anyone to just write off 100m

 

in an ideal world he'd be smart and realise success is the way to money but we don't live in an ideal world

 

He's not writing it off though. It's still there, in his own company, and will continue to be there and when he sells up, he'll get it back. Why does a bloke with a billion quid need that back right now, other than sheer greed and spite?

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Yes in revenue, in debt, in anything you care to use to measure it. We're the 20th richest club in world football and the 6th richest in England in terms of revenue. We are also guaranteed at least 25 million pounds extra tv revenue in the next twelve months which will propel us up that world table.

 

Yes, but we have over £100m in debt and up until a couple of years ago were losing £30m+ a year. That's a fact isn't it? So either we need affordable debt sources or Ashley needs to use his own money.

 

Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. You said yesterday it was unacceptable for him to be withdrawing his debt, now you're saying it's fine.

 

I think it's acceptable for him to take some debt repayments out... repaying debt is part of a company's operations. It's pretty hard to argue about specific amounts though.

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Problem is it effects us and our ability to finally get rid of him. 'Serves him right' just seems a daft thing to say when it's us who suffers.

 

What are you talking about? Where did I imply that??

 

You didn't, that's the problem.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

 

So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view?

 

absolutely not, when have i ever said that?  i'm the person arguing against "certain people" that we should expect to spend that money now because it's guaranteed

 

however as the owner is 100m down i'd expect there to be a % involved...don't see what's controversial

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Ashley will be still the owner of the club while fans keep going to SJP and we are in the PL.  As long the fans keep going, he'll be able to take the piss out of them for his own personal satisfaction while taking money out of the club.

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He's not writing it off though. It's still there, in his own company, and will continue to be there and when he sells up, he'll get it back. Why does a bloke with a billion quid need that back right now, other than sheer greed and spite?

 

becasue perhaps as a businessman who has essentially destroyed his competition ruthlessly over the last 10 years he would rather have the 100m back, i don't know, it's irrelevant...he's due it, the issue is how he goes about getting it back

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Yes in revenue, in debt, in anything you care to use to measure it. We're the 20th richest club in world football and the 6th richest in England in terms of revenue. We are also guaranteed at least 25 million pounds extra tv revenue in the next twelve months which will propel us up that world table.

 

Yes, but we have over £100m in debt and up until a couple of years ago were losing £30m+ a year. That's a fact isn't it? So either we need affordable debt sources or Ashley needs to use his own money.

 

Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. You said yesterday it was unacceptable for him to be withdrawing his debt, now you're saying it's fine.

 

I think it's acceptable for him to take some debt repayments out... repaying debt is part of a company's operations.It's pretty hard to argue about specific amounts though.

 

To their own owner?

 

Just saying "we've got masses of debt" is a misrepresentation. It's like me taking £1000 out of my savings and putting it in my current account, and claiming I have debt problems. I don't. I'm not going to send the heavies round, or come and confiscate my own telly. We have more than enough revenue to spend on players without adding a penny to Mike Ashley's debt.

 

The only reason he needs that money back is greed, and to piss us off.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

 

So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view?

 

absolutely not, when have i ever said that?  i'm the person arguing against "certain people" that we should expect to spend that money now because it's guaranteed

 

however as the owner is 100m down i'd expect there to be a % involved...don't see what's controversial

 

The owner got the club cheaper because of that debt.  So it really doesn't make a difference about the debt or not, if we didn't have the debt he'd be taking money from the club imo.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

 

So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view?

 

absolutely not, when have i ever said that?  i'm the person arguing against "certain people" that we should expect to spend that money now because it's guaranteed

 

however as the owner is 100m down i'd expect there to be a % involved...don't see what's controversial

 

What's controversial is that it appears to be 100%, or at least that 0% is going to be spent on players, or a new manager.

 

You don't think we should spend some of that money now? Why on Earth not?

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Cant get his asking price...clear the debt, sell it at a lower price??!

 

Sell the club with the debt and charge any new owner for interest on it?

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Cant get his asking price...clear the debt, sell it at a lower price??!

 

He'd get his asking price without the debt. No one will pay the asking price and the debt. Until the debt goes he's here to stay.

 

If he's taking money out of the club to pay off that debt then great, he's close to leaving.

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Yes in revenue, in debt, in anything you care to use to measure it. We're the 20th richest club in world football and the 6th richest in England in terms of revenue. We are also guaranteed at least 25 million pounds extra tv revenue in the next twelve months which will propel us up that world table.

 

Yes, but we have over £100m in debt and up until a couple of years ago were losing £30m+ a year. That's a fact isn't it? So either we need affordable debt sources or Ashley needs to use his own money.

 

Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt. You said yesterday it was unacceptable for him to be withdrawing his debt, now you're saying it's fine.

 

Going down your route of borrowing as a display of ambition, we'd be spending similar amounts just paying interest on bank loans. If we don't get in another striker then it means fuck all, but at least this way our debt is shrinking.

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He's not writing it off though. It's still there, in his own company, and will continue to be there and when he sells up, he'll get it back. Why does a bloke with a billion quid need that back right now, other than sheer greed and spite?

 

becasue perhaps as a businessman who has essentially destroyed his competition ruthlessly over the last 10 years he would rather have the 100m back, i don't know, it's irrelevant...he's due it, the issue is how he goes about getting it back

 

How is he due it from his own company? He's entitled certainly, due implies we have some reason to pay it back other than him being a total cunt.

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Cant get his asking price...clear the debt, sell it at a lower price??!

 

Sell the club with the debt and charge any new owner for interest on it?

 

Sounds like an epic deal for a potential buyer, can't believe we haven't got them queuing up for that one.

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Or the club could spend its own money instead of being used to repay the debt.

 

hold on, are you saying ashley should let his 100m+ just ride like?

 

Probably not, but serves the cunt right for not doing the due diligence when he bought us.

 

Fat cunt.

 

:lol:  nonsense

 

No it's not.  He didn't do due diligence, only absolute idiots would spend 125M on a business and not actual see any of the books.

 

in actual fact i think you'll find gambles are made in business every day of the week, what tends not to happen is when a gamble is lost temporarily the billionaire in question just says "aye well, 150m down already, suppose another 100m isn't that much to miss"

 

there's no fucking reason why he shouldn't want his money back, as objectionable as he is

 

So when we get £63m+ from the Premier League this season, it's ok for him to take the lot in your view?

 

absolutely not, when have i ever said that?  i'm the person arguing against "certain people" that we should expect to spend that money now because it's guaranteed

 

however as the owner is 100m down i'd expect there to be a % involved...don't see what's controversial

 

What's controversial is that it appears to be 100%, or at least that 0% is going to be spent on players, or a new manager.

 

You don't think we should spend some of that money now? Why on Earth not?

 

i don't know how many times i can say it in english, i believe that being 100m in debt he has the right to want to recover it somehow, i don't agree that he should be recovering it at 100% of club income to the detriment of what goes on on the pitch

 

clear enough?

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