Hanshithispantz Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 what self-congratulatory shite that first line is man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 People who rate Marveaux puzzle me. I just don't think they've ever played the game at any level or even in a kickabout with any urgency to it. He's reasonably talented - nothing special - but his lack of heart and effort is critical to making him ineffective most of the time. Any success in football is built on hard work & unless you are a stupidly good player you really can't get away with being lazy or indifferent. I do think he's talented mind - but simultaneously useless most of the time. Decent from the bench but I wouldn't start him. Have you ever played at a decent level? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Not seen anything at all of todays match (or even read anything about it yet) but as far as I'm aware: 1. He picked the right team. 2. We won. 3. We won away from home. 4. We scored two goals. 5. We won even after being pegged back. 6. I heard someone on SSN say we were well on top after our second goal. Better, Pardew. Basically this. Picked the right team, and got the subs right as well. Can't really complain today at all. Another win against Hull and the momentum might take care of results in it's own way like a couple of seasons ago. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 They had about 10 minutes after half-time which was expected from the home team after going in at half-time behind, but apart from that, we strolled it imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 They had about 10 minutes after half-time which was expected from the home team after going in at half-time behind, but apart from that, we strolled it imo. We definitely were the better side, but I think they had far more than only 10minutes. In any case, 3p won, Haris Vukcic (the poster) is a professional footballer so we should all be happy and grateful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I meant 10 minutes of pressure. Yeah they had a few spells and a couple of chances but again, a home team in the Premier League will do that the majority of the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I meant 10 minutes of pressure. Yeah they had a few spells and a couple of chances but again, a home team in the Premier League will do that the majority of the time. I still think Aston Villa will struggle this year. Their squad is thin and bunch of young ones. They are extremely inconsistent as well. Fair play to us though, a lot down to Remy 's danger on the left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Yeah I didn't get the hype they got end of last season and I doubt they'll finish top 10 this year. I'd be disappointed if we finished lower than them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Bollocks. Contradict it then. You can't. He's an oxygen thief. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 what self-congratulatory shite that first line is man. Yep, sums him up really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 People who rate Marveaux puzzle me. I just don't think they've ever played the game at any level or even in a kickabout with any urgency to it. He's reasonably talented - nothing special - but his lack of heart and effort is critical to making him ineffective most of the time. Any success in football is built on hard work & unless you are a stupidly good player you really can't get away with being lazy or indifferent. I do think he's talented mind - but simultaneously useless most of the time. Decent from the bench but I wouldn't start him. He's not the hardest working player around (in terms of tracking back, providing 'a tackle' etc) but I wouldn't describe him as lazy at all. First and foremost, you judge players like Marveaux on what they produce in the final third, and he's consistently one of our most creative players despite having little in the way of regular gametime. He's up there with the best in our squad in terms of technical ability, and uses the ball more intelligently than most. He might be a player who needs certain conditions in order to thrive, but I reckon he would have offered more than Cabaye as the furthest forward in the midfield three today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 People who rate Marveaux puzzle me. I just don't think they've ever played the game at any level or even in a kickabout with any urgency to it. He's reasonably talented - nothing special - but his lack of heart and effort is critical to making him ineffective most of the time. Any success in football is built on hard work & unless you are a stupidly good player you really can't get away with being lazy or indifferent. I do think he's talented mind - but simultaneously useless most of the time. Decent from the bench but I wouldn't start him. He's not the hardest working player around (in terms of tracking back, providing 'a tackle' etc) but I wouldn't describe him as lazy at all. First and foremost, you judge players like Marveaux on what they produce in the final third, and he's consistently one of our most creative players despite having little in the way of regular gametime. He's up there with the best in our squad in terms of technical ability, and uses the ball more intelligently than most. He might be a player who needs certain conditions in order to thrive, but I reckon he would have offered more than Cabaye as the furthest forward in the midfield three today. I just don't think he's good enough to counterbalance the gaps his carelessness creates tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 How do you counterbalance a gap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm sure at the time we got Marveaux there was a compilation video doing the rounds of him and a significant part of it was showing his workrate for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm sure at the time we got Marveaux there was a compilation video doing the rounds of him and a significant part of it was showing his workrate for the team. Irrelevant if he can't do it in black and white, surely? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I like him. He's not first choice by a long way but he's one of 4-5 players who you don't mind seeing in the starting XI outside of our full-strength team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I can barely summon up the energy to run for a bus, that must be why I really like Marveaux. Thanks HV, hadn't realised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm sure at the time we got Marveaux there was a compilation video doing the rounds of him and a significant part of it was showing his workrate for the team. Irrelevant if he can't do it in black and white, surely? Just an anecdote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm sure at the time we got Marveaux there was a compilation video doing the rounds of him and a significant part of it was showing his workrate for the team. Irrelevant if he can't do it in black and white, surely? Just an anecdote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I don't think Marveaux is for every game but he's shown in his very limited starting appearances that he can be very effective both in the league and in the cups. He's had a few invisible man appearances as well as a few arguable MOTM ones. He's very good back-up in my non professional opinion, but I did have a kick about last week. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I think my frustration & petulance towards him lies in how good he could be - if his heart was in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnes23 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 "Sylvain Marveaux vs Anzhi Makhachkala" on a popular video sharing site. Think he could be very effective in home games where we (should) dominate possession. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm also far from convinced by Marveaux, just haven't seen enough to understand the outrage that appears on here when he's not in the side, sure he's had the odd flash of brilliance but nothing resembling consistency with it and when he's off form he really doesn't show much enthusiasm to try harder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 I'm also far from convinced by Marveaux, just haven't seen enough to understand the outrage that appears on here when he's not in the side, sure he's had the odd flash of brilliance but nothing resembling consistency with it and when he's off form he really doesn't show much enthusiasm to try harder Marveaux hardly gets a game so I don't see how he's going to play with consistency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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