Dr Venkman Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Nothing story. Saying the win was for Mike I'm not so sure about - he could be taking the p*ss because Ashley is a Chelsea fan but he's probably trying to win favours after saying he doesn't know what he's doing to the press. Jesus Christ. Same old same old, criticises people for having a go at Pardew for everything in one sentence, and in the next can't even bring himself to condemn absolutely scandalous comments from him. I don't even think he's aware that he's doing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The Cabaye stuff is a non-story. It's the Ashley comments which are truly nauseating, dear oh dear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 "Put it in the box again" "Oui, boss" There you go, a rare rare rare goal from a set-piece. We've wasted so many that this one is being viewed as a miracle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Nothing story. Saying the win was for Mike I'm not so sure about - he could be taking the piss because Ashley is a Chelsea fan but he's probably trying to win favours after saying he doesn't know what he's doing to the press. :lol: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Tell you what lads I had a cracking day at the match. If you want to get wound up about a post match interview that's up to you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 He's simply an arse licking bastard! Watching the actual interview, it's clear that he meant it sincerely. Whether you agree with him or not, at least he had the guts to nail his colours to the mast. Watching the Sunday Supplement, I'd agree with the journo who said that the right response would have been for the club to get the local editors round the table and find a way forward. The local media are now in the unfortunate position where it would suit their stance if the team were doing badly. The club are in the unfortunate position of having a hostile local press. No-one's going to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Cronky, he said in his pre-match interview as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexthegreat Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 As most have said, yesterday's performance is an illustration of what many of us know - there are some quality players in our squad and, with a better manager, we would have a good chance of being top 6 challengers. The problems are that 1) There is no way Ashley would recruit a top manager and no way one would join us under Ashley's terms of employment although Di Matteo is reputedly interested. 2) We lack depth of quality - and numbers - in the squad which would allow a realistic challenge for honours because even a top manager would struggle when we got crucial injuries and Ashley wouldn't spend the necessary money required in order to strengthen the squad sufficiently. Having said all that, I still think that a decent manager could get us into top 8 and, given a run of luck with injuries, challenging for 5th place - we are ridiculously inconsistent and shouldn't be with the quality of players available when most are fit. All of the established top 6 sides have at least one forward who cost £20m+ while we have spent about that amount on strikers in the entire time Ashley has been here. We do not currently have a competant centre forward at the club and Ameobi started again yesterday. Aside from Remy and Ben Arfa our attacking players look rank average to poor, and at the back the likes of Williamson and Dummett get a game. I cannot believe anyone thinks we would be a top 6 side if it wasn't for the manager. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Tell you what lads I had a cracking day at the match. If you want to get wound up about a post match interview that's up to you. I see where you're coming from, but the Ashley comments were disgusting tbf and no need to say it really. Obviously hasn't took the shine off the performance though, it was fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 I think the side is improving as some of the newer players like Anita, Mapou, Debuchy etc find their feet. But we don't look great technically and we struggle when we try to work the ball in confined spaces. However, we do have some decent athletes like Remy and Sissoko, and when space opens up a bit, we can be a threat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 As most have said, yesterday's performance is an illustration of what many of us know - there are some quality players in our squad and, with a better manager, we would have a good chance of being top 6 challengers. The problems are that 1) There is no way Ashley would recruit a top manager and no way one would join us under Ashley's terms of employment although Di Matteo is reputedly interested. 2) We lack depth of quality - and numbers - in the squad which would allow a realistic challenge for honours because even a top manager would struggle when we got crucial injuries and Ashley wouldn't spend the necessary money required in order to strengthen the squad sufficiently. Having said all that, I still think that a decent manager could get us into top 8 and, given a run of luck with injuries, challenging for 5th place - we are ridiculously inconsistent and shouldn't be with the quality of players available when most are fit. All of the top 6 have at least one forward who cost £20m+ while we have spent about that amount on strikers in the entire time Ashley has been here. We do not currently have a competant centre forward at the club and Ameobi started again yesterday. Aside from Remy and Ben Arfa our attacking players look rank average to poor, and at the back the likes of Williamson and Dummett get a game. I cannot believe anyone thinks we would be a top 6 side if it wasn't for the manager. A good manager won't make us get into top 6, like you say their squads are still far better than ours. A good manager would ensure a far easier passage to finish 7th/8th however but i even believe Pardew can still get us to 8th just with more of a rollercoaster of a ride. Our standard of players is far greater than those around mid table spots and the players will gather enough momentum during the season to get us to top 8 imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Tell you what lads I had a cracking day at the match. If you want to get wound up about a post match interview that's up to you. It doesn't wind you up he said "this is for mike?" HV is in a sticky situation here. He wants to blame Ashley for the club going down the shitter but now his hero Pards is defending big Mike. What to do? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Hero? Reductio ad absurdum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's almost like he was told to say those comments..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Was horrified when I saw the line up but fair play, the gameplan worked. Professional manager in having more tactical nous than average fan shocker. Will take a few more performances like that to make up for the derby, but that was a lot better. Some consistency and the season can be salvaged. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Was horrified when I saw the line up but fair play, the gameplan worked. Professional manager in having more tactical nous than average fan shocker. Will take a few more performances like that to make up for the derby, but that was a lot better. Some consistency and the season can be salvaged. Which derby? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Was horrified when I saw the line up but fair play, the gameplan worked. Professional manager in having more tactical nous than average fan shocker. Will take a few more performances like that to make up for the derby, but that was a lot better. Some consistency and the season can be salvaged. Which derby? Take your pick marra. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Was horrified when I saw the line up but fair play, the gameplan worked. Professional manager in having more tactical nous than average fan shocker. Will take a few more performances like that to make up for the derby, but that was a lot better. Some consistency and the season can be salvaged. If Pardew's as bad as many on here make him out to be (and he may well be), then in order to achieve yesterday's result against arguably the shrewdest manager in world football, a team full of world class players and just a couple of days after playing 120 minutes, then one of Carver, Woodman or Stone must be a fucking genius. Yes I know the week before was absolutely woeful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 "We are together and this win is for everyone, from Mike Ashley at the top to all the Newcastle fans.” Is that what people are so annoyed about? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 To say cabaye would have whipped it in anyway is bollocks because we've all lamented the endless stream of balls lobbed onto Williams head at the back of the box. The pisser is that Pardew thinks the ball whipped in should be the exception rather than the rule. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 "We are together and this win is for everyone, from Mike Ashley at the top to all the Newcastle fans.” Is that what people are so annoyed about? There was another one before the game where he said he wanted to do it for mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 To detract from the win like that with that comment is stupid, but we all know where his loyalties lie. I do wonder who he means by we, are many of the players behind him and Ashley? I can't see there being many. Perhaps those who, under a progressive owner, would find themselves out the door are behind Ashley. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
themanupstairs Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 Still hate this guy and want us shot of him at the earliest possible opportunity, but one thing I liked yesterday was post-match. Ashley comments aside he actually spoke some sense, and his English was a lot more professional than it usually is. Didn't sound like he will get carried away with the win, and that's the most important thing to take from the match. Liked his comment about the squad and city having a spring in their step come Monday morning. We CAN play a full 90 minutes with the right tactics and some canny bit of quality to win matches under this guy, he just needs to start proving that wins like yesterday's are no fluke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manosdepiedra Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 It's almost like he was told to say those comments..... Thats what I thought....tv cameras in the changing room on Wednesday before the game?...pfft.... Well done to PArdew and the players yesterday, wtf happened last Sunday though??...maddeningly inconsitant this lot... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted November 3, 2013 Share Posted November 3, 2013 The bloke's a slimy creep. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts