Yorkie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 This might be construed as quite a simple mindset, but I honestly don't know how you can 'deserve' to win any game in which you don't score. Never mind 'at a canter'. Like I said, Paulinho's (was it?) chance - the only out-and-out clear cut chance - goes in, then it's a draw. Which would've been fair. But they didn't do enough to score one, never mind a hatful, so in no way deserved to win that match. Krul saved our bacon on a couple of occasions, but after these sorts of games, people go on like the goalkeeper is some benevolent deity that has come down to give us the points - as opposed to being just one crucial member of a team. Erikson, Soldado, Paulinho x 2, the free kick were all clear goal chances. I'm not saying they deserved to win, but they were the better team and without a Krul on unbelievable form they probably would've. They were chances but the one where Krul saved with his feet is the only one that should have resulted in a goal. Soldado wasn't even facing the goal with his header. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 It wasn't even like we restricted spurs to pop shots from 30 yards or anything here, they genuinely should have scored a few goals and it's testament to our goalkeeper that they didn't along with some awful finishing from them. A month ago and sloppiness alone would have probably lead to us conceding, it's a definite improvement on that front. I just hope we can keep up this level of commitment from the players and grab the upcoming games by the horns, none of this sitting on a goal s**** at home and against the league's cannon fodder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 This might be construed as quite a simple mindset, but I honestly don't know how you can 'deserve' to win any game in which you don't score. Never mind 'at a canter'. Like I said, Paulinho's (was it?) chance - the only out-and-out clear cut chance - goes in, then it's a draw. Which would've been fair. But they didn't do enough to score one, never mind a hatful, so in no way deserved to win that match. Krul saved our bacon on a couple of occasions, but after these sorts of games, people go on like the goalkeeper is an extension of a team; some benevolent deity that has come down to give us points that we don't deserve. As opposed to just being one crucial member of a team. That's probably the best I've ever seen Krul play. If he was on standard form I think Spurs would have scored 3 or 4. Forget about clear-cut chances, there were numerous occasions where the ball would have gone in the net if Krul wasn't having such a stormer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cajun Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I don't see how we were jammy or they deserved to win. We have a top class keeper who made some top class saves. Our defence played well for the most part, we created a few chances and scored one of them and no key decisions wrongly went against either side. Spurs have top class players who on their day can win them games like Krul/Remy did. It was just our day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Soldado's header was fucking fantastic, facing the goal or not he weighted it perfectly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Krul was better in the second half against West Brom in 2009 imo. Made 2 great saves today, no question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anyone who says they weren't bricking it in the second half is lying tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 This might be construed as quite a simple mindset, but I honestly don't know how you can 'deserve' to win any game in which you don't score. Never mind 'at a canter'. Like I said, Paulinho's (was it?) chance - the only out-and-out clear cut chance - goes in, then it's a draw. Which would've been fair. But they didn't do enough to score one, never mind a hatful, so in no way deserved to win that match. Krul saved our bacon on a couple of occasions, but after these sorts of games, people go on like the goalkeeper is an extension of a team; some benevolent deity that has come down to give us points that we don't deserve. As opposed to just being one crucial member of a team. That's probably the best I've ever seen Krul play. If he was on standard form I think Spurs would have scored 3 or 4. Forget about clear-cut chances, there were numerous occasions where the ball would have gone in the net if Krul wasn't having such a stormer. Mannnn, this is exactly what I'm saying! Krul had a stormer - I agree. But in what way is that a detriment to the team and/or suggests we didn't deserve to win (or get a point, at the very least)? I suppose if you want to break it right down, Krul's goalkeeping was better than Spurs' attacking. Thus they didn't deserve to win by a hatful. Like I say, you're going on as if the keeper isn't a member of the team. He is. He played well. He forced Spurs into not-scoring. Therefore they didn't deserve to win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Listen, I'm not championing the mentality or the tactics. It's a seriously dangerous game to play and won't work like that every single time. But today it was enough, thanks largely to a terrific performance by one member of the team. My argument is that Spurs didn't deserve to win the game. They didn't and didn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I think the point is that you shouldn't be relying on your goalkeeper to make 14 saves, surely? Krul shouldn't be given the chance to play a stormer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I think the point is that you shouldn't be relying on your goalkeeper to make 14 saves, surely? Krul shouldn't be given the chance to play a stormer. That's a fair point, and one that I'm not really arguing about. But it doesn't change the fact that, as an 11, we did enough to win the game and, at the very least, be worthy of a point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I think the point is that you shouldn't be relying on your goalkeeper to make 14 saves, surely? Krul shouldn't be given the chance to play a stormer. Aye, but he did have to and he did, which is no less important than a CM or a CF having a blinder... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anyway, we won so fuck it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skirge Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anyway, we won so fuck it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Anyway, we won so f*** it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ste Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If me auntie had balls she'd be me uncle. 3 points on the board, WHL is still a tough place to go despite their problems this season in front of goal. Next 2 games will show us where we are really at. Personally, I think Norwich will turn us over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorJ_01 Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Lucky b******. Absolutely horrific 2nd half and would've got destroyed if it wasn't for Krul. Still relying on individual bits of class by Remy, goals coming from nowhere else atm. That said, we started well, so well done P-dew. edit: and three points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If me auntie had balls she'd be me uncle. 3 points on the board, WHL is still a tough place to go despite their problems this season in front of goal. Next 2 games will show us where we are really at. Personally, I think Norwich will turn us over. I don't think we'll lose against Norwich but West Brom might do us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 If me auntie had balls she'd be me uncle. 3 points on the board, WHL is still a tough place to go despite their problems this season in front of goal. Next 2 games will show us where we are really at. Personally, I think Norwich will turn us over. It depends if it is your aunty by blood or by means of marriage. If it was by marriage she / he would more than likely be nailing someone else... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I think the point is that you shouldn't be relying on your goalkeeper to make 14 saves, surely? Krul shouldn't be given the chance to play a stormer. Aye, but he did have to and he did, which is no less important than a CM or a CF having a blinder... I never said it was I took the "Spurs deserved to win" to be less literal tbh, more as to just prove a point that they played better football than us and created more chances. Which they did. It doesn't matter as I couldn't give a shit about Spurs, I just don't really like seeing us surrender possession like that and end up ultimately relying on our goalkeeper (who of course just as important as a CM or a CF and all that) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heron Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 I think the point is that you shouldn't be relying on your goalkeeper to make 14 saves, surely? Krul shouldn't be given the chance to play a stormer. Aye, but he did have to and he did, which is no less important than a CM or a CF having a blinder... I never said it was I took the "Spurs deserved to win" to be less literal tbh, more as to just prove a point that they played better football than us and created more chances. Which they did. It doesn't matter as I couldn't give a s*** about Spurs, I just don't really like seeing us surrender possession like that and end up ultimately relying on our goalkeeper (who of course just as important as a CM or a CF and all that) Fair dues. I found it frustrating how easily we gave back possession second half like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 You were saying you never thought we'd get close to Swansea. I don't think it's a ridiculous notion that we might. aaah yes, i did say that, and you're right to pull me up on it tbf...i don't think we'll finish above them but yeah we might not be a million miles away from them, it's not beyond the realms of possibility anyway as stated you can have your bet if you factor the points swing for europe against swansea Aye, ok then. Tenner says we'll finish 5 points or more ahead of Swansea @ 4/1. ..and the gap moves to 6 points Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Good timing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 Good timing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted November 10, 2013 Share Posted November 10, 2013 :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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