Dokko Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I see those mispronunciations are being glossed over here like they're something completely irrelevant. It's incredibly disrespectful imo. No surprise the French press have picked up on it. Someone got my name wrong the other day, I didn't kick off. Funny that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tollemache Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I don't think journalists picking up on an easy story is much of a barometer of whether something is significant. The mispronunciations are horrible and are hardly going to inspire confidence in his intelligence but I'd be surprised if any of the players thought much other than "ffs, daft codger". I mean, old man in struggling with foreign words shocker. Of much more concern to them will be the fact that there's pressure on the manager, the fans aren't happy and there appears to be some disagreement between key figures as to how to run the club Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuy_O Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Its just highlighting a situation for what it is. A bit of a mess and all really rather embarrassing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Joe Kinnear has never been one to resist a laugh at his own expense. So he enjoyed a good chuckle behind the wheel of his car when he heard a radio reporter suggesting that by leaving Oxford to become the Luton Town manager he was swapping a club with both feet in the Second Division grave to a club with only one. There was, however, a compelling reason for Kinnear's switch a month ago. Buying and selling players for Oxford on a freelance basis, with no input into the team, he just did not feel involved enough, did not feel any real sense of fulfilment. After almost two years' recuperation since his heart attack in March 1999, he was desperate to start yelling at players on the training field again and begin moulding and building another team. And any new club's league position was irrelevant, Kinnear just wanted to feel like he was making a difference again. He realised how badly he was longing for a return when he bumped into Sir Alex Ferguson before last summer's Euro 2000 final and Fergie casually broached the subject of whether he had considered going back into management. Kinnear was surprised to hear himself say: "Christ, I'd go back in the morning." From a Guardian article in 2001: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2001/mar/17/newsstory.sport1 Honestly can't see it being any different this time around, he's just not the type to sit in the background at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Joe Kinnear was yesterday confirmed as Luton Town's director of football, his second such posting with a struggling Second Division club this year. Luton, languishing in 23rd position, hope the appointment will signal a change in their fortunes; this was not noticeably the case at 24th-placed Oxford United, whom Kinnear quit last week after four months in the job. "I am delighted to be involved with Luton," he said, "and believe the club has huge potential. My role is to ensure that this potential is realised on the field and that the club quickly regains some of the ground it has lost in recent years." Kinnear's arrival leaves the manager Lil Fuccillo's position in doubt and it is unclear whether he will stay at the club. Luton's chairman Mike Watson-Challis said: "I am delighted Joe has decided to join us and am confident that his vast experience and energy will assist the club to regain some of its past glories. Joe will be responsible for all football matters, reporting directly to the board, and we wish him every success." An earlier Guardian article, before Kinnear demoted Fuccillo and installed himself as manager: http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2001/feb/08/newsstory.sport4 Aye, I've finally felt brave enough to revisit his Wikipedia page. Am I Giggsing like a bastard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanj Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Lil Fuccillo eh? He was our chief scout when we signed Colo, Jonas, Guthrie, Bassong? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohmelads Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Sounds crazy but really seems like this appointment may be an effort to force certain people out of the club, without the need to pay off their long contracts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I see those mispronunciations are being glossed over here like they're something completely irrelevant. It's incredibly disrespectful imo. No surprise the French press have picked up on it. Someone got my name wrong the other day, I didn't kick off. Funny that. I've lived in France and England and nobody has ever got my name right. Then again, I am not a professional footballer playing for the club Kinnear has just joined as a Director of Football. How can he not know Shola's name FFS? He could put some effort into learning the players' names. He managed Shola when he was here as a manager a couple of seasons ago.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Getting names wrong would be an excuse. No one minded when Robby bobson done it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Getting names wrong would be an excuse. No one minded when Robby bobson done it. If he'd got one or maybe two names wrong it wouldn't have been such an issue. He didn't get one non-English sounding name right FFS. Not of the players he had managed previously, not of the managing director who he had apparently spoken extensively the days before. It's indicative of a lack of respect and attention to detail, and I imagine it will not only frustrate existing players to be called Kebab and Ben Afra, but also it will complicate negotiations with prospective ones. Can you see him dealing with Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang and his agents and not make a complete arse out of himself, and by consequence, NUFC? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sh74 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Getting names wrong would be an excuse. No one minded when Robby bobson done it. Exactly, the media are absolutely loving this like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 What was strange is that he said both Ben Afri and Ben Arfi and Kebab and Cabaye at different points in the interview. He hasn't done his homework (knows it all already) and was just guessing at names. It was like the bloke in the pub who knows nowt spouting out names he'd briefly heard of 4 or 5 weeks ago joining in on a conversation and making a right tit of himself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
9 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I hate kinnear as much as anyone but he clearly got the names wrong as he was ranting, like above says he got most the names right at some point in the interview, and anyone looking to leave on the back of it should really be a bit more honest with the fans as its a poor excuse What goes against kinnear is he used changing nzogbias name to insomnia as a insult in the past Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Robson used to confuse players name, not call them something different to what they are. Kinnear's vocabulary comes across of him being very lazy when he speaks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unbelievable Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I hate kinnear as much as anyone but he clearly got the names wrong as he was ranting, like above says he got most the names right at some point in the interview, and anyone looking to leave on the back of it should really be a bit more honest with the fans as its a poor excuse What goes against kinnear is he used changing nzogbias name to insomnia as a insult in the past He wasn't ranting, that's his normal demeanor. Of course if Kinnear getting your name wrong is used as an excuse for wanting away that is a bit much, but I can't see any player doing that. There is press speculation that it has made them uneasy, and I could fully imagine it would. I mean, I cringed at every name he uttered, let alone if you're Cabaye himself and you know your friends and (international) team mates will start constantly taking the piss out of you for something beyond your control. Put it this way, it's certainly not going to help us keep our best players if Kinnear can't even get their fucking names right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 It's not the mistaken names that got me, it was the horrendous lies and shameful lack of professionalism shown. The bloke is a complete embarrassment and I'm ashamed he was ever associated with this club, even more so now he's our DoF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Since this all broke, has Kinnear been seen in public ? No formal or official interviews ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 He's a useless cunt. To condense it., Das ist Numberwang! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Robson used to confuse players name, not call them something different to what they are. Kinnear's vocabulary comes across of him being very lazy when he speaks. you'd think mispronouncing someones name would be seen as a lesser evil than mistaking them entirely. far too much being made over this when it is really the least of the concerns about him and wouldn't really be mentioned if it were someone we rated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David28 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 I say it now I 100% mean it.. he returns back here in ANY role I WILL give up my season ticket Has this happened btw?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATB Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Robson used to confuse players name, not call them something different to what they are. Kinnear's vocabulary comes across of him being very lazy when he speaks. you'd think mispronouncing someones name would be seen as a lesser evil than mistaking them entirely. far too much being made over this when it is really the least of the concerns about him and wouldn't really be mentioned if it were someone we rated. It´s not. It´s so disrespectful the way he act. He´s not even mispronouncing them, he doesn´t even know them. and it´s not like it´s one name here and there, it´s a lot. Just talking about him makes me want to cry. Hate him more than pardew, and that says a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crayola Kid Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Robson used to confuse players name, not call them something different to what they are. Kinnear's vocabulary comes across of him being very lazy when he speaks. you'd think mispronouncing someones name would be seen as a lesser evil than mistaking them entirely. far too much being made over this when it is really the least of the concerns about him and wouldn't really be mentioned if it were someone we rated. didnt it sound quite deliberate at the time though? i may be being daft, but the surreal nature of the interview left me assuming he had gone on air to stir things up, and part of that was the mispronunciation of so many names. it felt like he was drawing fire to himself on purpose at the time, and the lack of info since hasnt changed my opinion on that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Since this all broke, has Kinnear been seen in public ? No formal or official interviews ? Had a conversation with my mate about this last night. "Fittest I've ever been" - we're expecting Kinnear's head on Sly Stallone's body tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomlkier Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Getting bored of all this media sensationalism: pardew and llambias rift, pulling the plug on douglas, carr unrest, cabaye unhappy, ben arfa to be sold, mass exodus of players .. not a single quote or source in sight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Getting bored of all this media sensationalism: pardew and llambias rift, pulling the plug on douglas, carr unrest, cabaye unhappy, ben arfa to be sold, mass exodus of players .. not a single quote or source in sight. Shame so many believe what they read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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