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I often wonder about the knackers who spout their racist sh*te at away matches. Instead of wasting their breath on a coach on the A1, why not just get a bus to Elswick or Benwell or anywhere up the West Road (or Bensham if you're keen on 'the Y word' as it's now known)....get off the bus, shout loads of racist sh*te, fill your boots, then get back home.

 

Would save a bit cash and presumably their heartfelt vitriol will reach it's desired audience. But then that might be a bit too direct for a cowardly little turd without a crowd to hide behind.

 

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I often wonder about the knackers who spout their racist sh*te at away matches. Instead of wasting their breath on a coach on the A1, why not just get a bus to Elswick or Benwell or anywhere up the West Road (or Bensham if you're keen on 'the Y word' as it's now known)....get off the bus, shout loads of racist sh*te, fill your boots, then get back home.

 

Would save a bit cash and presumably their heartfelt vitriol will reach it's desired audience. But then that might be a bit too direct for a cowardly little turd without a crowd to hide behind.

 

 

Can't do bugle/drink cans on those buses though.

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Isn't that figure distorted by how many 'fans' were arrested after the Sunderland, the majority of whom the police confirmed had not even attended the match?

 

That's what i was thinking... I think 130 got pinched that day so that would leave us mid-table at the 45 mark...

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Isn't that figure distorted by how many 'fans' were arrested after the Sunderland, the majority of whom the police confirmed had not even attended the match?

 

That's what i was thinking... I think 130 got pinched that day so that would leave us mid-table at the 45 mark...

 

Was on RTG and they seemed to think they'd seen a different league table that was more in line with that when it was in-stadium nickings.

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Can't say I saw any trouble after the Villa game but in general there will always be boozed up teens and kids who only really go on away trips to cause trouble and not actually watch the game - City in September was an example of this and the idiots annoyed the f*** out of me - was pretty much the first time I realised that I hated some of our fans. Fuckers.

 

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Isn't that figure distorted by how many 'fans' were arrested after the Sunderland, the majority of whom the police confirmed had not even attended the match?

 

That's what i was thinking... I think 130 got pinched that day so that would leave us mid-table at the 45 mark...

 

The data seems to include 29 arrests from the Sunderland match.

 

[Newcastle United recorded the highest number of arrests with 175 during the 2012-13 Premier League season - 114 of these being for violent disorder. Earlier this year football supporters clashed with police resulting in 29 arrests after a match between Newcastle and Sunderland in which Newcastle lost 3-0. The violence which included a fan punching a police horse was described by one officer as "the worst rioting I have seen in the city centre in decades."]

 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/09/football-related-arrests-by-club-offence

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Isn't that figure distorted by how many 'fans' were arrested after the Sunderland, the majority of whom the police confirmed had not even attended the match?

 

That's what i was thinking... I think 130 got pinched that day so that would leave us mid-table at the 45 mark...

 

The data seems to include 29 arrests from the Sunderland match.

 

[Newcastle United recorded the highest number of arrests with 175 during the 2012-13 Premier League season - 114 of these being for violent disorder. Earlier this year football supporters clashed with police resulting in 29 arrests after a match between Newcastle and Sunderland in which Newcastle lost 3-0. The violence which included a fan punching a police horse was described by one officer as "the worst rioting I have seen in the city centre in decades."]

 

http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2013/oct/09/football-related-arrests-by-club-offence

 

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-united-top-premier-league-6164147

 

According to this the majority were made at the derby match with only 15 being made at away games...

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A NEW dad is the latest football fan to be put behind bars over a notorious flare up of derby day violence.

 

Scaffolder Matthew Rushton, who is the dad of a four-month-old baby girl, was jailed for ten months after he was captured on camera taking part in the ugly scenes which erupted after Sunderland beat Newcastle 3-0 in April.

 

Dozens of Newcastle fans threw bottles and smoke bombs at police in a bid to attack rival SAFC supporters who were being escorted out of the city at the end of the game at St James’ Park.

 

Rushton, of Hazel Terrace, Shotton Colliery, was one of seven men sent to jail today (Friday, October 11).

 

The court heard Rushton had handed himself in after press appeals went out to catch the culprits involved in the trouble.

 

Jamie Adams, defending, said the 21-year-old, whose partner had a five-year-old child and has recently given birth to his daughter, is remorseful and embarrassed about his involvement that day and has avoided heavy drinking since.

 

Mr Adams said: “He has a four-month-old baby girl. He spends a lot of time with his family now.”

 

Judge James Goss QC said while Rushton did not throw any missiles himself, he was “enthusiastic” in his involvement in the trouble.

 

Season ticket holder James Hills, 18, of Sidlings Place, Lambton Lane, Durham, had watched the match at a bar rather than attending the game that day.

 

Nick Lane, defending, said the teenager “took leave of his senses” when he got involved in the trouble and put his dream of becoming a fitness trainer in jeopardy.

 

Hills was sentenced to eight months in a young offenders’ institution.

 

Tony Rooke, 18, of Heaton Park Road, Heaton, was sentenced to 12 months behind bars, Callum Graylish, 18, of Wilfred Street, Byker, was given 18 months, Robert Brown, 29, of Vallum Court, Arthur’s Hill, Newcastle was jailed for 16 months, Andrew McCraith, 21, of Milburn Road, Ashington, was jailed for eight months.

 

All admitted violent disorder.

 

Dale Young, 21, of City Road, Newcastle was jailed for four years and nine months.

 

He admitted violent disorder and four charges of burglary.

 

Tony Hawks, defending, said: “It can be said on behalf of all the defendants there is no suggestion here that this has the sinister element of organised football violence.”

 

All seven defendants were given football banning orders lasting six years.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Some nice heavy sentences, shame those down the road get away with it time and time again but still should serve a warning to others trying to act the hard man.

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Don't think it's any different to the past to be honest, if anything it's probably a lot better. It's just that more fans these days are level headed and don't appreciate the nonsense regarding hooliganism. I agree with the post regarding Green Street, etc. It just glorifies what the past used to be like instead of deterring the youth of today from doing that sort of shit. Ultimately though, there is a lack of what I can only describe as "match lads ( / lasses)" that have taught their children the rights and wrongs or football etiquette if you like. Maybe that's through not being able to afford to take their kids to games or whatever, but the ill-informed seem to get their ideas from the aforementioned films.

 

Generally speaking though, I think there is an overly critical view of the 'younger' fans. How many times do we see German atmospheres or Turkish atmospheres or whatever where everyone says "that's phenomenal, I wish it was like that here"? Then all of a sudden when people try to re-create anything like that they are berated or laughed at. Some of the older generation need to remember when they were invading pitches and kicking seven shades of shit out of one another, pissing in peoples pockets and climbing walls of buildings, etc just to see the game (without paying) and the bigoted attitudes towards women and those of a different race.

 

Ultimately, I love the football banter and the stereotypical things people sing about, i.e. Scousers stealing things. I'm not easily offended and I think it's good for people to laugh at one another then shake hands after the game.

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Generally speaking though, I think there is an overly critical view of the 'younger' fans. How many times do we see German atmospheres or Turkish atmospheres or whatever where everyone says "that's phenomenal, I wish it was like that here"?

 

I've never heard anyone say that. Must be the knobheads you hang round with. The younger fans are generally a bunch of arseholes.

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Generally speaking though, I think there is an overly critical view of the 'younger' fans. How many times do we see German atmospheres or Turkish atmospheres or whatever where everyone says "that's phenomenal, I wish it was like that here"?

 

I've never heard anyone say that. Must be the knobheads you hang round with. The younger fans are generally a bunch of arseholes.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

No.

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Generally speaking though, I think there is an overly critical view of the 'younger' fans. How many times do we see German atmospheres or Turkish atmospheres or whatever where everyone says "that's phenomenal, I wish it was like that here"?

 

I've never heard anyone say that. Must be the knobheads you hang round with. The younger fans are generally a bunch of arseholes.

 

Aye, from my experience, this has become increasingly apparent. Some of them really do ruin the matchday experience.

 

On another note, I really never understood why some fans feel the need to drink heavily before a game.

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They walk around the place (especially at away matches) with their hands up in the air, not sure if it is suppose to be intimidating or just to keep their balance after a 4 pack of Fosters on the bus down.

 

Exhibit A:

 

http://www.kennislink.nl/upload/163072_962_1168870100231-nieuwsbericht_2007_week_3,_afb._6.jpg

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Some very harsh jail terms handed out above - was surprised. But perhaps, it will get the message home loud and clear.

 

NP didn't arrest a single one of them at the time. NP let the fucking morons behave like they did standing behind their armour knowing that the cameraman will film their actions and the gormless Chronicle readers will shop them.

 

I'd much prefer to see NP actually do some work and stop it either before it happens or not long after. What the fuck do they think they are doing? Some poor fucker could be killed while NP stand by watching.

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