joeyt Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. Yeah pretty much this. He can only score against who he's playing against and he seems to be doing that more often than not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. Yeah tbf those stats aren't bad at all. He's clearly an excellent player but he just seems a step down on the very best strikers when I watch him recently Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. Yeah tbf those stats aren't bad at all. He's clearly an excellent player but he just seems a step down on the very best strikers when I watch him recently Messi and Ronaldo aside, who would you consider better strikers than Lewandowski? Genuine question. I can think of maaaybe 2-3 who I'd accept an argument for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. Yeah tbf those stats aren't bad at all. He's clearly an excellent player but he just seems a step down on the very best strikers when I watch him recently Messi and Ronaldo aside, who would you consider better strikers than Lewandowski? Genuine question. I can think of maaaybe 2-3 who I'd accept an argument for. Cavani, Kane, Costa, Suarez. I'd put a few more in there but it's probably unfair as I really don't rate the Bundesliga Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 He’s not as good as he was IMO but still evidently extremely good. Scored like a billion goals in qualifying n all. Would rank him in the Cavani bracket. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. World class strikers perform in the big games, not against Bundesliga dross when you're playing for a side miles ahead of the rest. Are you impressed with Cavani for scoring 82 league goals in the last 3 years in Ligue 1? He rarely does (perform in big games), the only one I can remember was in the CL semi a few years ago against Atletico. Goals in the big games are what separate the world class from just "very good", Lewandowski isnt world class imo (ignoring Messi and Ronaldo in this, man. They're not comparible to anyone). Yes he's very good but aye.. overrated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. Yeah tbf those stats aren't bad at all. He's clearly an excellent player but he just seems a step down on the very best strikers when I watch him recently Messi and Ronaldo aside, who would you consider better strikers than Lewandowski? Genuine question. I can think of maaaybe 2-3 who I'd accept an argument for. Cavani, Kane, Costa, Suarez. I'd put a few more in there but it's probably unfair as I really don't rate the Bundesliga Griezmann and Aguero as well, but I'd remove Cavani cause I can't stand him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. Yeah tbf those stats aren't bad at all. He's clearly an excellent player but he just seems a step down on the very best strikers when I watch him recently Messi and Ronaldo aside, who would you consider better strikers than Lewandowski? Genuine question. I can think of maaaybe 2-3 who I'd accept an argument for. Cavani, Kane, Costa, Suarez. I'd put a few more in there but it's probably unfair as I really don't rate the Bundesliga Griezmann and Aguero as well, but I'd remove Cavani cause I can't stand him. Yeah, exactly. Messi and Ronaldo don't count. Then the list you guys have, then Lewandowski. Loads of people would lump him in the 2nd group edit: 13 in 10 in Euro championship qualifiers for Poland (against Scotland, Gibraltar, Georgia, Ireland and 1 against Germany) 2 in 8 in the actual tournaments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Aubameyang is worth a shout as well. Scored as many in a much worse team in Germany and started like a house on fire in England Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. World class strikers perform in the big games, not against Bundesliga dross when you're playing for a side miles ahead of the rest. Are you impressed with Cavani for scoring 82 league goals in the last 3 years in Ligue 1? He rarely does (perform in big games), the only one I can remember was in the CL semi a few years ago against Atletico. Goals in the big games are what separate the world class from just "very good", Lewandowski isnt world class imo (ignoring Messi and Ronaldo in this, man. They're not comparible to anyone). Yes he's very good but aye.. overrated Yes, because 82 goals in 3 years is fucking impressive ffs they’re not up against pub league teams. The likes of Cavani and Lewandowski take the piss out of professional footballers on a weekly basis. Messi and Ronaldo being superhuman has melted people's brains. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'm not sure those stats are really backing up your point very well. I see that he has 22 CL goals over the past three years, that he has scored against PSG, Arsenal, Real Madrid, Atletico Madrid, and Juventus, in addition to scoring plenty against everyone else. He's quite clearly a world-class striker. World class strikers perform in the big games, not against Bundesliga dross when you're playing for a side miles ahead of the rest. Are you impressed with Cavani for scoring 82 league goals in the last 3 years in Ligue 1? He rarely does (perform in big games), the only one I can remember was in the CL semi a few years ago against Atletico. Goals in the big games are what separate the world class from just "very good", Lewandowski isnt world class imo (ignoring Messi and Ronaldo in this, man. They're not comparible to anyone). Yes he's very good but aye.. overrated Yes, because 82 goals in 3 years is fucking impressive ffs they’re not up against pub league teams. The likes of Cavani and Lewandowski take the piss out of professional footballers on a weekly basis. Messi and Ronaldo being superhuman has melted people's brains. He's had the likes of Neymar, Mbappe, Draxler, Di Maria, Rabiot, Pastore, Verratti, Lucas around him playing against Vincent Manceau Same applies (to a slightly lesser extent) to Lewa over the last few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Who I’m sure makes plenty of money playing professional football. He’s not putting in a shift at a call center after practice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Unless they go ahead and set up that European super league and they both fall flat every week, you’re never going to be able to make a convincing case that the likes of Lewandowski and Cavani are “overrated.” All they can do is score goals against the teams in front of them, which they both do with incredible efficiency. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 He’s like the 11th highest ever goalscorer from Europe with Poland. Will almost certainly take over Ibrahimovic and will likely take over Klose to nestle in behind Puskas and Ronny. He’ll be lethal regardless of which league he plays. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Unless they go ahead and set up that European super league and they both fall flat every week, you’re never going to be able to make a convincing case that the likes of Lewandowski and Cavani are “overrated.” All they can do is score goals against the teams in front of them, which they both do with incredible efficiency. Until they (he, Lewa) get to important games in final stages of the biggest international compeitions against the best teams World class players can/would do it then, though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Unless they go ahead and set up that European super league and they both fall flat every week, you’re never going to be able to make a convincing case that the likes of Lewandowski and Cavani are “overrated.” All they can do is score goals against the teams in front of them, which they both do with incredible efficiency. Until they (he, Lewa) get to important games in final stages of the biggest international compeitions against the best teams World class players can/would do it then, though Nah, that’s nonsense. Messi/Ronaldo setting the bar so incredibly high that you forget that there are other players today who are genuinely exceptional and/or among the best who’ve ever played in their own right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Unless they go ahead and set up that European super league and they both fall flat every week, you’re never going to be able to make a convincing case that the likes of Lewandowski and Cavani are “overrated.” All they can do is score goals against the teams in front of them, which they both do with incredible efficiency. Until they (he, Lewa) get to important games in final stages of the biggest international compeitions against the best teams World class players can/would do it then, though Does that mean Kane isn't world class because he hasn't done it yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'd take Benzema before Lewandowski. Now there's an unpopular opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Unless they go ahead and set up that European super league and they both fall flat every week, you’re never going to be able to make a convincing case that the likes of Lewandowski and Cavani are “overrated.” All they can do is score goals against the teams in front of them, which they both do with incredible efficiency. Until they (he, Lewa) get to important games in final stages of the biggest international compeitions against the best teams World class players can/would do it then, though Does that mean Kane isn't world class because he hasn't done it yet? He hasnt had many tries like Lewandowski Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'd take Benzema before Lewandowski. Now there's an unpopular opinion That not obvious? If people disagree with that it completely proves my point man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I'd take Benzema before Lewandowski. Now there's an unpopular opinion That not obvious? If people disagree with that it completely proves my point man Dunno, think people underrate Benzema because he doesn't score as many. Unbelievable team player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You think that’s unpopular? I’d take Rondon ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You think that’s unpopular? I’d take Rondon ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbnufc Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 You think that’s unpopular? I’d take Rondon ahead of him. He's scored against Barcelona, Real Madrid, Man Utd, Liverpool, Tottenham, Inter Milan and Argentina. Good shout Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 This seems like another knee-jerk World Cup "hottake" tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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