Paul Dummett

[Fantail Breeze]

3 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said:

Comments on here man. Delusions of grandeur already ?

 

It’s delusional to think Dummett isn’t good enough for any PL team in 2022?

 

As I said regarding Wood, I’d be disappointed to be clinging onto Dummett if Ashley was still here. It’s a crap decision and people are entitled to call a cat a cat.

 

We don’t need to pretend every decision the owners/Howe make are undeniably excellent. 

[The Prophet]

It's Andy Howe all over again. A relatively trivial move that's getting people needlessly worked up.

[MrRaspberryJam]

30 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Care to explain why this is a anything but a shite decision?

 

 

If that’s the case why are we keeping the shittest and most injury prone one of those five?

 

He's a squad player. Nothing more nothing less. It's not a big deal. 

[Yorkie]

Fanny won't rest til we've got '98 Lizarazu warming the bench. 

[Hanshithispantz]

21 minutes ago, HTT II said:

Reliable, he plays about 1 game a season and he’s utter shit 

He'll only have to play 1 game a season, man. He's there to pack out the squad.

 

Honestly it just looks completely stupid when a bunch of laymen start going overboard about the decisions of managers who clearly know what they're doing. If it was Bruce I'd get it, but Howe's shown he understands his squad now 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Hanshithispantz

[STM]

So if we let Dummett go, who do we replace him with? A kid from the U21s?

 

You might think, "well we could just sign someone," but then I'd ask who? We already have a list of priorities for the summer and not an unlimited budget.

 

Also, I've heard a few "well let Dummett go and keep Manquillo or Lewis", but I'd argue the reason why we MUST sell one of those players is because we can get a transfer fee for those players.

[Hanshithispantz]

8 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

It’s delusional to think Dummett isn’t good enough for any PL team in 2022?

 

As I said regarding Wood, I’d be disappointed to be clinging onto Dummett if Ashley was still here. It’s a crap decision and people are entitled to call a cat a cat.

 

We don’t need to pretend every decision the owners/Howe make are undeniably excellent. 

You have absolutely no idea whether it's a crap decition or not though 

 

We all like to play armchair footy manager like but it doesn't really work when the man in charge is actually good at his job.

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Hanshithispantz

[STM]

1 minute ago, Hanshithispantz said:

He'll only have to play 1 game a season, man. He's there to pack out the squad.

 

Honestly it just looks completely stupid when a bunch of laymen start going overboard about the decisions of managers who clearly know what yhey're doing. If it was Bruce I'd get it, but Howe's shown he understands his squad now 

100%

 

If we can't trust Howe to manage the squad, well....

 

That's not to say people aren't allowed an opinion, just that their opinions need to be caveated with the knowledge the Eddie Howe and his coaching staff have a better grip on the situation than they do.

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, Yorkie said:

Fanny won't rest til we've got '98 Lizarazu warming the bench. 

 

Just a player who is competent and fit enough to be relied upon when they’re needed would be fine.

 

Krafth, who looked a bag of shite under Bruce, looks like he could do that job and as a result I’m happy for him to stay around and play that role.

 

Dummett can’t. I’m not asking for the world, but would rather we don’t use up a squad place on someone who is a) proven crap over a long period and b) injured for 3/4s of the season. 

 

I’d get rid of Darlow, Dummett, Lewis, Clark, Hayden, Ritchie, Gayle. Replacing those with decent players would be enough to see us advance to the next step. 1-3 in the Bruno/Trippier (quality) standard, probably a CB, Winger and Striker and then the rest in the Burn (steady improvement) bracket would be fine.

 

Players like Lascelles, Krafth, Murphy, Longstaff, Wood, Fraser, Miggy all need replacing too but we may as well kick out the shitest lot, replace with quality and demote the above down a squad place as they’re ultimately better back up players than we have now.

 

It’s all opinions. But I’d be happy with that as summer business to be honest.

[Elliottman]

3 minutes ago, STM said:

100%

 

If we can't trust Howe to manage the squad, well....

 

That's not to say people aren't allowed an opinion, just that their opinions need to be caveated with the knowledge the Eddie Howe and his coaching staff have a better grip on the situation than they do.

We should all sit back and relax. Amazed people get wound up by stuff like this still with these guys in charge. Same with transfer rumours, just enjoy it and let them crack on. They know what they’re doing. 
 

 

[Comegetasample]

Feyuuummm on here, you'd think it was RTG ?

[Fantail Breeze]

6 minutes ago, Hanshithispantz said:

You have absolutely no idea whether it's a crap decition or not though 

 

We all like to play armchair footy manager like but it doesn't really work when the man in charge is actually good at his job.

 

 

 

 

 

I though Wood was a ‘dreadful’ signing and I was right. I thought the same about Targett and was wrong.

 

Maybe I’ll be right about this, maybe I won’t. But everyone is entitled to their opinion and that’s the point of the discussion.

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People need to realise were not going to be replacing our entire squad in one season, Dummett is solid enough to be third choice LB and can cover CB if we're absolutely desperate, he's clearly got something about him in the dressing room, and he's also probably on cheap wages, plus it's only a years contract, it's a bit 'meh' but makes perfect sense, hardly worth the fume.

[STM]

3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

I though Wood was a ‘dreadful’ signing and I was right. I thought the same about Targett and was wrong.

 

Maybe I’ll be right about this, maybe I won’t. But everyone is entitled to their opinion and that’s the point of the discussion.

Wood has been a decent signing, providing your only metric for success isn't goals.

 

Had we not signed him, we would have had at least half a dozen fewer points IMO.

 

We both know he's no long term solution.

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Just now, STM said:

Wood has been a decent signing, providing your only metric for success isn't goals.

 

Had we not signed him, we would have had at least half a dozen fewer points IMO.

 

We both know he's no long term solution.

The thing with Wood is you can say what you like about the signing, so long as you come up with a plausible alternative from that time. I haven't heard many, but would be happy to.

[Fantail Breeze]

1 minute ago, STM said:

Wood has been a decent signing, providing your only metric for success isn't goals.

 

Had we not signed him, we would have had at least half a dozen fewer points IMO.

 

We both know he's no long term solution.

 

I won’t go over this again but I’m not sure any metric provides a positive for him. Doesn’t score, doesn’t assist, doesn’t create chances, doesn’t pass, doesn’t successfully have a first touch. There’s a reason he’s been dropped.

 

Also disagree on the points - we could’ve signed any big lump up front and got the same results.

 

But I’ll leave that there before we go down another black hole  

[Hanshithispantz]

5 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

I though Wood was a ‘dreadful’ signing and I was right. I thought the same about Targett and was wrong.

 

Maybe I’ll be right about this, maybe I won’t. But everyone is entitled to their opinion and that’s the point of the discussion.

I'm just saying massively OTT reactions look daft when things are going well under a manager who knows what he's doing. I'm not saying Howe is 100% right here at all.

 

It was hot take central under Pardew on here but that was absolutely fine because he deserved his every decision questioned with extreme prejudice.

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

I'm just saying massively OTT reactions look daft when things are going well under a manager who knows what he's doing. I'm not saying Howe is 100% right here at all.

 

It was hot take central under Pardew on here but that was absolutely fine because he deserved his every decision questioned with extreme prejudice.

 

I don’t think anyone is being massively OTT. It’s a fairly straightforward discussion and people just saying it’s a crap move?

 

If people were saying we’ll be fighting relegation again, or the owners/Howe need booting, aye - massively OTT.

[Hanshithispantz]

The possitive metric for Wood is that he clearly helped Howe implament a winning style of play though - even if you could argue that any big forward would be just as good. He was a shit signing by many measures but there's no way it can be considered a disaster. Without him we might still be in a relegation scrap.

 

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Hanshithispantz

[Hanshithispantz]

1 hour ago, Fantail Breeze said:

What a dreadful decision that is.

 

Will hold up a valuable squad place.

I would say this is canny OTT like 

[toon25]

Was hoping we might be able to finally flush this turd 

 

Like one of Big Stevie Bacon's post-weekend shites that he used to drop off at the training ground bogs.

[Fantail Breeze]

Just now, Hanshithispantz said:

I would say this is canny OTT like 

 

Really? He will hold up a valuable squad place and he is dreadful 

 

Anyway, I’ll leave it there because I’m hogging the thread a bit and there’s only so many ways I can phrase the same opinion  

[54]

Just now, Fantail Breeze said:

 

Really? He will hold up a valuable squad place and he is dreadful 

 

Anyway, I’ll leave it there because I’m hogging the thread a bit and there’s only so many ways I can phrase the same opinion  

I really don't think he's dreadful like, he's always been solid defensively, just can't do anything else, which is fine as a third choice.

 

Also, it's worth keeping him for the slide tackles alone tbh

[Gallowgate Toon]

He's a solid defender who can cover multiple positions but, perhaps most importantly, is someone who knows the club, tries 100% even in training, and is popular among the squad. Howe seems to understand the importance of a club's culture & identity; I wouldn't be surprised to see him keep some unfashionable players around the place over the next few years who serve a utility purpose.

 

The big caveat is his fitness, of course, but he's likely not going to be playing much anyway, as has already been said.

[McDog]

1 minute ago, Gallowgate Toon said:

He's a solid defender who can cover multiple positions but, perhaps most importantly, is someone who knows the club, tries 100% even in training, and is popular among the squad. Howe seems to understand the importance of a club's culture & identity; I wouldn't be surprised to see him keep some unfashionable players around the place over the next few years who serve a utility purpose.

 

The big caveat is his fitness, of course, but he's likely not going to be playing much anyway, as has already been said.

 

 

Plus if he's homegrown it helps registration even if he rarely plays. You don't want a whole team of those mind.