Wullie Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Oliver used to do it as well, long before the Chronicle was even on the internet. I can only assume they feel they need to do it for their target market which is probably not very well educated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEEJ Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I can't believe how little I care about this result. They've sucked almost all the passion out of me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I can't believe he had the temerity in his post-match interview to use the free kick in the build up to their 2nd goal as an excuse. Quite astonishing, really. Can certainly see why people are livid with him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I can't believe he had the temerity in his post-match interview to use the free kick in the build up to their 2nd goal as an excuse. Quite astonishing, really. Why wouldn't he have 'the temerity' to do that, like? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, which makes it the perfect excuse. I can't see many managers not mentioning a questionable decision that led to a winning goal. This is in no way a defence of anyone or anything, but of all the legitimate complaints from yesterday, this ranks near the bottom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. No team looked likely to win it, only way a team was gonna win was a special goal like Borini's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 We didn't look likely to win at any point in the match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. Nah, more possession by default (we see this all the time when we play against inferior sets of players). We've got absolutely no idea what to do with the ball, we didn't make a chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. It looked like anybody could win it with a decent strike on goal from somewhere. As it happened their goal was actually a quality pass and finish, something we never looked like producing all afternoon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 If these fuckers survive by the margin of the 6 points we give them man for fucks sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Krul - 6 Shakey moment otherwise ok Debuchy - 6 good goal but don't think he stopped enough crosses Willo - 6 poor start but got better Dummet - 5 Not a premier league quality CB nor would expect to be Santon - 6 Terrible passing start of game, improved and carried threat later Tiote - 7 Like Liverpool much improved in some ways, and also to blame in run up to goal 2. Cabaye - 5 Got a yellow too quickly, didn't impose himself in middle as he normally does Gouffran - 2 barely featured Sissoko - 4 nothing worthwhile Ben Arfa - 2 Uterly useless throughout Remy - 2 Carried no threat Cisse - 0 Absolutely no influence on the game Shola - 5 Tried, bullied their defence a bit Sammy - n/a Not going to read the next 10 pages of Pardew when this sums it up perfectly for me. Some inexcusable performances yesterday regardless of the manager. Fucking shameful to see especially HBA who is getting more pointless by the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. In the sense that you were less bad, yeah. You had the momentum behind you, so I'd echo Brummie's comments of genuinely being confused how you managed to lose it. It was a good goal, but still. I can't believe he had the temerity in his post-match interview to use the free kick in the build up to their 2nd goal as an excuse. Quite astonishing, really. Why wouldn't he have 'the temerity' to do that, like? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, which makes it the perfect excuse. I can't see many managers not mentioning a questionable decision that led to a winning goal. This is in no way a defence of anyone or anything, but of all the legitimate complaints from yesterday, this ranks near the bottom. It epitomised desperation. You'd hardly expect him to go "yeah, we were crap", but I think in the context of losing back-to-back derbies for the first time in however long it is (many decades?) and also to Sunderland in one of their lowest ebbs in years, to point to a refereeing decision that was in the other half is something that will very knowingly rub people up the wrong way and, generally, is a pretty preposterous excuse. It was entirely unnecessary and further solidifies his reputation as a serial excuse-maker. It was desperate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 It was a cold hard slog and depressing at times but we knew it was only a matter of time before Fat Fred exercised that itchy trigger finger. Fat Fred never ever sacked ANY manager sitting above 13th. Only Ashley has done that, ousting Allardyce, Keegan and Hughton while they were outperforming all the managers you mention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That was the main thing I took away from it really, absolutely appalling game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That was the main thing I took away from it really, absolutely appalling game. Yeah, which makes it worse as had we turned up we would had won imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That's because Sunderland are a Championship standard team and we have a lower league manager who only understands that level of football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Venkman Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. In the sense that you were less bad, yeah. You had the momentum behind you, so I'd echo Brummie's comments of genuinely being confused how you managed to lose it. It was a good goal, but still. I can't believe he had the temerity in his post-match interview to use the free kick in the build up to their 2nd goal as an excuse. Quite astonishing, really. Why wouldn't he have 'the temerity' to do that, like? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, which makes it the perfect excuse. I can't see many managers not mentioning a questionable decision that led to a winning goal. This is in no way a defence of anyone or anything, but of all the legitimate complaints from yesterday, this ranks near the bottom. It epitomised desperation. You'd hardly expect him to go "yeah, we were crap", but I think in the context of losing back-to-back derbies for the first time in however long it is (many decades?) and also to Sunderland in one of their lowest ebbs in years, to point to a refereeing decision that was in the other half is something that will very knowingly rub people up the wrong way and, generally, is a pretty preposterous excuse. It was entirely unnecessary and further solidifies his reputation as a serial excuse-maker. It was desperate. 1967 apparently, although I haven't checked that out myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That was the main thing I took away from it really, absolutely appalling game. Yeah, which makes it worse as had we turned up we would had won imo. I still don't know what I think about it really. It's almost impossible to draw any conclusions about tactics or performance in an environment like that. Even the best teams usually struggle when pressed like that, and struggle to settle into a rhythm when the start of a game is so frantic. Again the circumstances of the derby suited Sunderland a lot more than they did us. If they hadn't nicked that goal we would probably be just saying "shite game, I would have taken the draw beforehand". That's how close the margins are. I might have brought on someone like Anita instead of Shola, to add control in midfield. And put HBA out wide right since Sunderland had no threat down there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That was the main thing I took away from it really, absolutely appalling game. Yeah, which makes it worse as had we turned up we would had won imo. I still don't know what I think about it really. It's almost impossible to draw any conclusions about tactics or performance in an environment like that. Even the best teams usually struggle when pressed like that, and struggle to settle into a rhythm when the start of a game is so frantic. If they hadn't nicked that goal we would probably be just saying "shite game, I would have taken the draw beforehand". That's how close the margins are. I might have brought on someone like Anita instead of Shola, to add control in midfield. And put HBA out wide right since Sunderland had no threat down there. No they don't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest icemanblue Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Does nobody think we looked by far the most likely to win it in the second half? Sorry, I can't face reading the last few pages. In the sense that you were less bad, yeah. You had the momentum behind you, so I'd echo Brummie's comments of genuinely being confused how you managed to lose it. It was a good goal, but still. I can't believe he had the temerity in his post-match interview to use the free kick in the build up to their 2nd goal as an excuse. Quite astonishing, really. Why wouldn't he have 'the temerity' to do that, like? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, which makes it the perfect excuse. I can't see many managers not mentioning a questionable decision that led to a winning goal. This is in no way a defence of anyone or anything, but of all the legitimate complaints from yesterday, this ranks near the bottom. It epitomised desperation. You'd hardly expect him to go "yeah, we were crap", but I think in the context of losing back-to-back derbies for the first time in however long it is (many decades?) and also to Sunderland in one of their lowest ebbs in years, to point to a refereeing decision that was in the other half is something that will very knowingly rub people up the wrong way and, generally, is a pretty preposterous excuse. It was entirely unnecessary and further solidifies his reputation as a serial excuse-maker. It was desperate. If you're looking for the epitomy of desperation, then you really need look no further than the introduction of Shola. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merlin Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 I can't believe he had the temerity in his post-match interview to use the free kick in the build up to their 2nd goal as an excuse. Quite astonishing, really. Why wouldn't he have 'the temerity' to do that, like? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, which makes it the perfect excuse. I can't see many managers not mentioning a questionable decision that led to a winning goal. This is in no way a defence of anyone or anything, but of all the legitimate complaints from yesterday, this ranks near the bottom. If the positions had been reversed and we had scored the winner from the free kick, would you have been defending Poyet from accusations that he was whingeing after defeat....? Or would you have said he was just a sad bitter Mackem..!? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That was the main thing I took away from it really, absolutely appalling game. Yeah, which makes it worse as had we turned up we would had won imo. I still don't know what I think about it really. It's almost impossible to draw any conclusions about tactics or performance in an environment like that. Even the best teams usually struggle when pressed like that, and struggle to settle into a rhythm when the start of a game is so frantic. If they hadn't nicked that goal we would probably be just saying "shite game, I would have taken the draw beforehand". That's how close the margins are. I might have brought on someone like Anita instead of Shola, to add control in midfield. And put HBA out wide right since Sunderland had no threat down there. No they don't. Actually, I think they do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 We had no fucking tempo in our passing and almost no fucking movement, no wonder they could close us down that easily. Even a blind man could see thet they were there for the taking, derby or not.. Especially in that second half. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Btw, this was one of the worst games I had ever seen in the PL. Wasn't one for the neutrals. That was the main thing I took away from it really, absolutely appalling game. Yeah, which makes it worse as had we turned up we would had won imo. I still don't know what I think about it really. It's almost impossible to draw any conclusions about tactics or performance in an environment like that. Even the best teams usually struggle when pressed like that, and struggle to settle into a rhythm when the start of a game is so frantic. If they hadn't nicked that goal we would probably be just saying "shite game, I would have taken the draw beforehand". That's how close the margins are. I might have brought on someone like Anita instead of Shola, to add control in midfield. And put HBA out wide right since Sunderland had no threat down there. No they don't. Actually, I think they do. Then Chelsea, Liverpool etc should always be easily knocked out of their stride against lesser teams rather than wiping the floor with them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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