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Anyway, for probably the first time supporting Newcastle I want to see us lose as many games between now and the end of the season so see the fraud sacked.  It might not happen but I'll have a little hope, I have no hope with the fraud managing us so as many goals against as possible.  The season is clearly over as nobody at the club seems to give a shit so why should I?

 

If we pick up a couple of results the fraud will remain at the club and it's more than likely going to be more of the same.  Lose and it might make a difference and we might just get lucky and appoint a manager who is capable of getting the players to perform in a way that most of us will be happy with.

 

I fail to see why anybody would want things to go on the way they are currently going and we're almost guaranteed for that to happen if Pardew remains.  I'll accept another 5 defeats in the hope that he goes and better times are ahead, I want his position to become untenable.

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Anyway, for probably the first time supporting Newcastle I want to see us lose as many games between now and the end of the season so see the fraud sacked.  It might not happen but I'll have a little hope, I have no hope with the fraud managing us so as many goals against as possible.  The season is clearly over as nobody at the club seems to give a shit so why should I?

 

If we pick up a couple of results the fraud will remain at the club and it's more than likely going to be more of the same.  Lose and it might make a difference and we might just get lucky and appoint a manager who is capable of getting the players to perform in a way that most of us will be happy with.

 

I fail to see why anybody would want things to go on the way they are currently going and we're almost guaranteed for that to happen if Pardew remains.  I'll accept another 5 defeats in the hope that he goes and better times are ahead, I want his position to become untenable.

 

I don't know why anyone is so confident about Pardew being unsackable. The one thing we know about Ashley is that he's very unpredictable with hiring and firing managers.

 

Who saw the sacking of Hughton coming? The hiring of Kinnear? Pardew 8 year contract?

 

They guy is anything but predictable. Even if results do get better between now and the end of the season I still wouldn't bet against Pardew being sacked.

 

However, my personal opinion is that Ashley knows he fucked up appointing Kinnear and blames him for he lack of signings and therefore our shitty results.... at least in part. And that's why Pardew hasn't been sacked already.

 

Still, I don't know how anyone can claim to be confident one way or the other.

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Anyway, for probably the first time supporting Newcastle I want to see us lose as many games between now and the end of the season so see the fraud sacked.  It might not happen but I'll have a little hope, I have no hope with the fraud managing us so as many goals against as possible.  The season is clearly over as nobody at the club seems to give a s*** so why should I?

 

If we pick up a couple of results the fraud will remain at the club and it's more than likely going to be more of the same.  Lose and it might make a difference and we might just get lucky and appoint a manager who is capable of getting the players to perform in a way that most of us will be happy with.

 

I fail to see why anybody would want things to go on the way they are currently going and we're almost guaranteed for that to happen if Pardew remains.  I'll accept another 5 defeats in the hope that he goes and better times are ahead, I want his position to become untenable.

 

:thup: I definitely don't think he's unsackable, the more pressure the better, I don't enjoy seeing us win with this fraud in charge and as we're safe, we may as well lose as I'm pretty much ambivalent to that too. Even if there's only a slight chance he'll get sacked I'll take it!

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Yeah, I definitely feel like he could be sacked.

 

The media is picking up on the fans dissatisfaction with him, and the pressure is being cranked up now.

 

If we keep getting battered it will get louder and louder, and he might have to go in Mike's eyes.

 

It will just be such a bad sign going into next season and they won't want to get any players he wants either.

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Yeah, I definitely feel like he could be sacked.

 

The media is picking up on the fans dissatisfaction with him, and the pressure is being cranked up now.

 

If we keep getting battered it will get louder and louder, and he might have to go in Mike's eyes.

 

It will just be such a bad sign going into next season and they won't want to get any players he wants either.

 

I agree, he's definitely not immune. The sticking point is obviously the league position, which is probably acceptable to the owner.

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The sticking point is obviously the league position, which is probably acceptable to the owner.

 

with any luck someone will point out to ashley that the entirety of last season was fucking horrible and we nearly went down, this season was poor except for that run of games that cemented the top half spot and then it's back to relegation form again

 

he's essentially gambling that pardew can put a similar run together i suppose if he keeps him, because normal ops for pards is relegation-level football and we all know it

 

EDIT: i suppose he's also gambling that below the top 7 no-one else strengthens and the table remains woeful below that point, otherwise even 'good' pardew will not likely get him his top 10

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The sticking point is obviously the league position, which is probably acceptable to the owner.

 

with any luck someone will point out to ashley that the entirety of last season was fucking horrible and we nearly went down, this season was poor except for that run of games that cemented the top half spot and then it's back to relegation form again

 

he's essentially gambling that pardew can put a similar run together i suppose if he keeps him, because normal ops for pards is relegation-level football and we all know it

 

It seems to be the way, yeah, unless we can provide him with good enough individual players to get us through games.

 

The strange thing about Ashley (so far) has been his lack of faith in the input of football people, and his failure to realise that with an average manager he is getting so much less than the best performance out of his assets. The issue is whether he's realising now. If he really did sack Kinnear for footballing reasons, then maybe he's moving in the right direction.

 

I would be 100% in favour of a Pardew sacking if I thought Ashley was going to put some proper consideration into choosing a good manager.

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I would be 100% in favour of a Pardew sacking if I thought Ashley was going to put some proper consideration into choosing a good manager.

 

 

not having a go but amazed you'd still be in favour of keeping pardew tbh, regardless of who comes in

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I would be 100% in favour of a Pardew sacking if I thought Ashley was going to put some proper consideration into choosing a good manager.

 

not having a go but amazed you'd still be in favour of keeping pardew tbh, regardless of who comes in

 

I actually don't know at this point, would probably give him the sack now if it was up to me. But I'd still be worried about what would happen next. Who knows what's going on in Ashley's head though, maybe he only looks at league position.

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I would be 100% in favour of a Pardew sacking if I thought Ashley was going to put some proper consideration into choosing a good manager.

 

not having a go but amazed you'd still be in favour of keeping pardew tbh, regardless of who comes in

 

I actually don't know at this point, would probably give him the sack now if it was up to me. But I'd still be worried about what would happen next. Who knows what's going on in Ashley's head though, maybe he only looks at league position.

 

to me if he sacked him and brought in kinnear (or someone else ridiculous) tomorrow it'd be a step in the right direction as it'd at least galvanise the fans and wake them up from their pardew-coma

 

we're at the point where change is needed for changes sake imho, then we have to spin the wheel and hope ashley gets lucky with whoever he appoints

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He's not going to get sacked for meeting his KPI. All those 3-0, 4-0 defeats and he doesn't even break a sweat. Contrast that with the 2nd half of last season where he's clearly mindful of relegation and losing his job.

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Just sunk in that I've put biggish money on us to lose by at least 2 goals. Versus Stoke. Fuck off Pardew and thanks for ripping out any love I had for the club. :(

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Bill Kenwright at Everton doesn't spend money either. He just recognises that spending on a decent manager is the best investment you can make.

 

They've spent plenty.

 

Where have they spent plenty?

 

Here's a few from recent years that would give Mike Ashley sleepless nights.

 

Johnson £8.5m

Yakubu £11.5m

Fellaini £15m

Bilyaletdinov £10m

McCarthy £13m

 

They've sold some players for big money (after getting good use out of them) but the key thing is they're not terrified of spending what they have like we are.

 

Newcastle have spent more than everton in Ashley's time to be fair. Just never £10m+ on a single player.

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If we finish outside the top 10 he will be sacked simply because he would have lost money that the fat man has accounted for (hence the public target of a top 10 finish). Anything above tenth Fatty is laughing as that is bonus cash IMHO.

 

The publicized target last season was top 8. When they failed to live up to it they did nothing but lower the target for the following season. Next year the target will be top 12.

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