BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So why so much hatred for Hughton and so much love and cuddles for Pardew? Oh yeah, because you have given up the ghost and can see into the future, confidently predicting we will appoint another "anti Football English manager" as you like to put it. I don't hate Hughton, genuine nice guy but i just don't rate him and think he should be long gone at Norwich and fancy them to get relegated if they stick with him. I was frustrated we had him because i thought although he's doing a decent job, we can do better. Then it wasn't to be, Ashley thought we couldn't do better and Pardew it was. Every appointment he's made has been stinking. Shearer said he never even got asked if he wanted the job full time or anything after they went down, harsh imo. Ashley struggles to pay top wage for a player let alone a manager on a big wage from Europe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 If he is sacked you lot might feel how i felt when Hughton was binned The joyous feeling won't last very long though so be warned if you just hold your hands up and clearly admit that pardew is not good enough to manage the players he has at his disposal (with no provisos and no references to other managers) this could all go away Brett, it'll all be over, we'll get ronaldo to draft you up a N-O immunity agreement for all of the crimes you've committed against football and indeed sanity, then we can move on with our lives I've said from day 1 he's the luckiest man alive to bag this job and he's out of his depth. Only reason why his achievements have looked better than Hughton's are the standard of players he’s been given. Both bang average managers who probably should be in the championship and not managing top flight clubs imo. You mean you said ON day 1. I could pull up countless quotes from you that contradict that you think he is "he's out of his depth" but I'm not arsed. You, I and everyone else know this is true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 So why so much hatred for Hughton and so much love and cuddles for Pardew? Oh yeah, because you have given up the ghost and can see into the future, confidently predicting we will appoint another "anti Football English manager" as you like to put it. I don't hate Hughton, genuine nice guy but i just don't rate him and think he should be long gone at Norwich and fancy them to get relegated if they stick with him. I was frustrated we had him because i thought although he's doing a decent job, we can do better. Then it wasn't to be, Ashley thought we couldn't do better and Pardew it was. Every appointment he's made has been stinking. Shearer said he never even got asked if he wanted the job full time or anything after they went down, harsh imo. Ashley struggles to pay top wage for a player let alone a manager on a big wage from Europe. Agree with what you are saying about Ashley, I just can't get my head around why Pardew gets away with what Houghton doesn't. You say you don't rate Pardew etc, but your post come across otherwise. I think it's the bipolar way your posts come about that seem to get people's back up. You seem to praise Pardew to the hilt, then the next time you are saying you don't rate him. Your views seem so hap hazard and baffling. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 that's clear enough like, and fair enough really - your fear of the next appointment is driving you to see the positives in pardew then by the looks of it let's just hope the daft c*** doesn't implode and almost get us relegated again any time soon then No doubt, if i had confidence in our board to bring in someone of quality, i'd be on the opposite side of the fence like, no doubt. After this last shambles though i firmly realised the grass isn't always greener Sick as chip when Pardew was announced, up with the worst feelings i've had supporting Newcastle. Along with the Allardyce/Souness appointments. Madness how chairmen can get managerial appointments so wrong time and time again. Fair enough some just don't pay off but a lot you know have failed before they have even stepped foot in the door. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Agree with what you are saying about Ashley, I just can't get my head around why Pardew gets away with what Houghton doesn't. You say you don't rate Pardew etc, but your post come across otherwise. I think it's the bipolar way your posts come about that seem to get people's back up. You seem to praise Pardew to the hilt, then the next time you are saying you don't rate him. Your views seem so hap hazard and baffling. I basically up my views on here for him because people take things way over the top when critising him. We win, players get credit, we lose, pardew's tactics. I try and say they are in it together, win together, lose together. I might point the finger at players or manager in certain games where i think they've definitley cost us but on the whole people try and make it so clear cut that it's all Pardew's fault when things go wrong. And Spudil, if you want to trawl through my posts where i'm backing the Pardew appointment or have said he's an excellent manager or that i love him or whatever else, feel free. You'll be wasting your time though. I give him praise for things he does, of course i do but i do sometimes say he's also cost us. End of the day i really am backing him and supporting him to do things well here as i really don't want Ashley to embarass this club furthur with another one of his strange delluisional appointments which he has brought on us. It's a gamble i simply don't want to take especially when i don't think that gamble needs to be taken. I said over the summer, if things started badly this season and it was looking another dog fight in the bottom half by xmas, i'll want him out and have no choice but to spin Ashley's job centre manager roulette wheel but no need to spin when we are sitting pretty 6 points off champions league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudil Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Em... yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Your posts on Pardew go far beyond someone who challenges the harsh reactions he receives. It does seem like Brett's decided to completely change his tack and adopt Happy Face's argument in full now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. i guess there will be no concurrence on this matter then, 'cause he's out of his depths imho top tier championship manager in charge of international footballers and our position and performances reflect this fairly accurately tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bimpy474 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Hughton winning games 6-0, 5-1 in the derby, countless batterings handed out to teams in the Championship......yeah he was shit ffs. Even with the Chapionship squad can anyone see Pardew doing as well, i certainly cant as the cunt doesn't know how to go at teams, something Hughton knew brilliantly. Class bloke, and ten times better than having this cocknugget. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 No way Pardew's side puts 5 past Sunderland btw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. i guess there will be no concurrence on this matter then, 'cause he's out of his depths imho top tier championship manager in charge of international footballers and our position and performances reflect this fairly accurately tbh Remit - League : Finish Top 10 FA Cup : Not Applicable League Cup : Not Applicable To say he's out of his depth is utterly laughable. People also have a habit of massively over rating our squad. We could probably this year 7th at best and if we had a really bad season 13th-14th. You know when people talk about ridiculous expectations - they're talking about you. The irony is the expectation is a product of Pardew's own high performance but that's no doubt lost on you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Agree with what you are saying about Ashley, I just can't get my head around why Pardew gets away with what Houghton doesn't. You say you don't rate Pardew etc, but your post come across otherwise. I think it's the bipolar way your posts come about that seem to get people's back up. You seem to praise Pardew to the hilt, then the next time you are saying you don't rate him. Your views seem so hap hazard and baffling. I basically up my views on here for him because people take things way over the top when critising him. We win, players get credit, we lose, pardew's tactics. I try and say they are in it together, win together, lose together. I might point the finger at players or manager in certain games where i think they've definitley cost us but on the whole people try and make it so clear cut that it's all Pardew's fault when things go wrong. And Spudil, if you want to trawl through my posts where i'm backing the Pardew appointment or have said he's an excellent manager or that i love him or whatever else, feel free. You'll be wasting your time though. I give him praise for things he does, of course i do but i do sometimes say he's also cost us. End of the day i really am backing him and supporting him to do things well here as i really don't want Ashley to embarass this club furthur with another one of his strange delluisional appointments which he has brought on us. It's a gamble i simply don't want to take especially when i don't think that gamble needs to be taken. I said over the summer, if things started badly this season and it was looking another dog fight in the bottom half by xmas, i'll want him out and have no choice but to spin Ashley's job centre manager roulette wheel but no need to spin when we are sitting pretty 6 points off champions league. Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. i guess there will be no concurrence on this matter then, 'cause he's out of his depths imho top tier championship manager in charge of international footballers and our position and performances reflect this fairly accurately tbh Remit - League : Finish Top 10 FA Cup : Not Applicable League Cup : Not Applicable To say he's out of his depth is utterly laughable. People also have a habit of massively over rating our squad. We could probably this year 7th at best and if we had a really bad season 13th-14th. You know when people talk about ridiculous expectations - they're talking about you. The irony is the expectation is a product of Pardew's own high performance but that's no doubt lost on you. Ridiculous expectations is expecting the 7th or 8th best squad in the league to present a challenge to the top 6 and maybe not go out of every cup at the first or second hurdle every year. If you want to point fingers, then people like you are why those running NUFC have been able to get away with taking the piss out of fans for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. i guess there will be no concurrence on this matter then, 'cause he's out of his depths imho top tier championship manager in charge of international footballers and our position and performances reflect this fairly accurately tbh Remit - League : Finish Top 10 FA Cup : Not Applicable League Cup : Not Applicable To say he's out of his depth is utterly laughable. People also have a habit of massively over rating our squad. We could probably this year 7th at best and if we had a really bad season 13th-14th. You know when people talk about ridiculous expectations - they're talking about you. The irony is the expectation is a product of Pardew's own high performance but that's no doubt lost on you. Ridiculous expectations is expecting the 7th or 8th best squad in the league to present a challenge to the top 6 and maybe not go out of every cup at the first or second hurdle every year. If you want to point fingers, then people like you are why those running NUFC have been able to get away with taking the p*ss out of fans for so long. Our squad isn't as good as you think - but we are challenging the top 6 - obviously. You're just helping me make my point. Oh and that highlighted section ;D ;D ;D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmojorisin75 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 "Remit" like that's all there is to it was he out of his depth last year then Haris, he had the same remit then no? said it before but i've never seen a manager more out of his depth last year than him, maybe that fella that took over at wolves and looked like a rabbit in the headlights the entire time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. i guess there will be no concurrence on this matter then, 'cause he's out of his depths imho top tier championship manager in charge of international footballers and our position and performances reflect this fairly accurately tbh Remit - League : Finish Top 10 FA Cup : Not Applicable League Cup : Not Applicable To say he's out of his depth is utterly laughable. People also have a habit of massively over rating our squad. We could probably this year 7th at best and if we had a really bad season 13th-14th. You know when people talk about ridiculous expectations - they're talking about you. The irony is the expectation is a product of Pardew's own high performance but that's no doubt lost on you. Ridiculous expectations is expecting the 7th or 8th best squad in the league to present a challenge to the top 6 and maybe not go out of every cup at the first or second hurdle every year. If you want to point fingers, then people like you are why those running NUFC have been able to get away with taking the p*ss out of fans for so long. Our squad isn't as good as you think - but we are challenging the top 6 - obviously. You're just helping me make my point. Oh and that highlighted section ;D ;D ;D Challenging the top 6, yeah. If you're the 7th or 8th best squad in the country then you don't aim for 7th or 8th, you aim for higher. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And the highlighted section's correct, Liverpool fans wouldn't stand for it and as a result they have largely been a club that is at least always trying to make itself better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 "Remit" like that's all there is to it was he out of his depth last year then Haris, he had the same remit then no? said it before but i've never seen a manager more out of his depth last year than him, maybe that fella that took over at wolves and looked like a rabbit in the headlights the entire time Last year - of course - but there were obvious variables. If you've never seen a manager more ''out of his depth'' than a manager clearly not out of his depth you can't have watched much football at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And the highlighted section's correct, Liverpool fans wouldn't stand for it and as a result they have largely been a club that is at least always trying to make itself better. I don't think Liverpool is a fair comparison to most clubs in the country, let alone ours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 He's not out of his depths at all. pardew? Of course he's not. i guess there will be no concurrence on this matter then, 'cause he's out of his depths imho top tier championship manager in charge of international footballers and our position and performances reflect this fairly accurately tbh Remit - League : Finish Top 10 FA Cup : Not Applicable League Cup : Not Applicable To say he's out of his depth is utterly laughable. People also have a habit of massively over rating our squad. We could probably this year 7th at best and if we had a really bad season 13th-14th. You know when people talk about ridiculous expectations - they're talking about you. The irony is the expectation is a product of Pardew's own high performance but that's no doubt lost on you. Ridiculous expectations is expecting the 7th or 8th best squad in the league to present a challenge to the top 6 and maybe not go out of every cup at the first or second hurdle every year. If you want to point fingers, then people like you are why those running NUFC have been able to get away with taking the p*ss out of fans for so long. Our squad isn't as good as you think - but we are challenging the top 6 - obviously. You're just helping me make my point. Oh and that highlighted section ;D ;D ;D Challenging the top 6, yeah. If you're the 7th or 8th best squad in the country then you don't aim for 7th or 8th, you aim for higher. So - is he out of his depth or isn't he? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And the highlighted section's correct, Liverpool fans wouldn't stand for it and as a result they have largely been a club that is at least always trying to make itself better. I don't think Liverpool is a fair comparison to most clubs in the country, let alone ours. Both clubs had won the same about of trophies in the 70s. Dat Ambition! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Haris Vuckic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 And the highlighted section's correct, Liverpool fans wouldn't stand for it and as a result they have largely been a club that is at least always trying to make itself better. I don't think Liverpool is a fair comparison to most clubs in the country, let alone ours. Both clubs had won the same about of trophies in the 70s. Dat Ambition! So, would you say our brief stab at competing was a blip & now normality has been restored? I'm not sure what you're point is. Liverpool we're basically one of the best teams in Europe with more money than most clubs in England and a succession of the best managers promoted from within. There is really no comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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