Interpolic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Also, you keep harping on about Crystal Palace and I can see why because that's the only time I can remember us attacking lesser opposition for more than 45 minutes over the course of the last one and a half seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Brett is wobbling all over the ring here like. Ian needs to throw in the towel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Tactics against Palace looked identical to me until we got a goal and the players clocked on how shit the opposition were. First twenty minutes was really poor and we certainly didn't go at them out of the gate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Why would we want to go to West Brom to get a point? Your argument is all over the shop man, seriously it's changing like the wind. I don't know ask Pardew why he decided to try and contain them from scoring then looking to nick one. I've said i didn't agree with that tactic but if Debuchy hadn't of got sent and Ebn Arfa nicks the goal, it's 3 points, didn't work this time for him though due to the sending off giving WB the advantage and reducing the chances of us nicking it big style like he would have planned. We should have approached it like Palace, weather we would have won like that or not we'll never know but that's how i would have set up. That approach (let's call it the West Brom approach) is far less effective than the Crystal Palace approach against lesser opposition, besides being less pleasing on the eye. That's why people have a problem with it, it's more likely to go wrong and is unnecessary, boring and tedious. It went wrong because one of his players let him down though. Just like one of his players might save him and get 3 points with individual brilliance as some put it, he was let down on this occasion by one of them. Goes around in circles, it's a risky tactic and one really we shouldn't be adopting against likes of West Brom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Brett is wobbling all over the ring here like. Ian needs to throw in the towel. You probably want Pardew sacked again Hans, you chop and change that opinion by the week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Why would we want to go to West Brom to get a point? Your argument is all over the shop man, seriously it's changing like the wind. I don't know ask Pardew why he decided to try and contain them from scoring then looking to nick one. I've said i didn't agree with that tactic but if Debuchy hadn't of got sent and Ebn Arfa nicks the goal, it's 3 points, didn't work this time for him though due to the sending off giving WB the advantage and reducing the chances of us nicking it big style like he would have planned. We should have approached it like Palace, weather we would have won like that or not we'll never know but that's how i would have set up. That approach (let's call it the West Brom approach) is far less effective than the Crystal Palace approach against lesser opposition, besides being less pleasing on the eye. That's why people have a problem with it, it's more likely to go wrong and is unnecessary, boring and tedious. It went wrong because one of his players let him down though. Just like one of his players might save him and get 3 points with individual brilliance as some put it, he was let down on this occasion by one of them. Goes around in circles, it's a risky tactic and one really we shouldn't be adopting against likes of West Brom. Killing the game as a spectacle and relying on magic is a shit tactic (especially against lesser opposition in poor form) and there is no excuse when it goes wrong, which it's more likely to than if you tried to exert your dominance and win the game as if it's, you know, an actual football match. It's as simple as that for me, no point discussing it any further. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Brett is wobbling all over the ring here like. Ian needs to throw in the towel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Not easy when you reply than have another 5 things to answer for Least i'm here trying to convince you lot this poor form will be put to an end and we will get back on a run again. I'm keeping faith that even Pardew's tactic of shutting up shop or containment will still pick up positive results even if i don't agree with it. He's here to stay and whilst Ashley is in charge and the results on the pitch continue to be good ones, i'm happy for that. He had his chance this season to forget last season and get us back on track and he's done that so far, couple of attacking signings and we can still push on. Not all doom and gloom like some make out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'd love to see Wullie's post rate when in poor form to good form as well. Hardly hear from him when things are going well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'd love to see Wullie's post rate when in poor form to good form as well. Hardly hear from him when things are going well. Only so many times you can post the same things without it being spam tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'd love to see Wullie's post rate when in poor form to good form as well. Hardly hear from him when things are going well. Only so many times you can post the same things without it being spam tbh Taking action this time, drop HP a pm and tell him to start a graph. Need some hard evidence, bloke only sings when we are losing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 I'd love to see Wullie's post rate when in poor form to good form as well. Hardly hear from him when things are going well. Only so many times you can post the same things without it being spam tbh Taking action this time, drop HP a pm and tell him to start a graph. Need some hard evidence, bloke only sings when we are losing I was referring to your posts defending Pardew Reminds me of when we had Bramble & Boumsong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanshithispantz Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Brett is wobbling all over the ring here like. Ian needs to throw in the towel. You probably want Pardew sacked again Hans, you chop and change that opinion by the week You're lying again Brett. I would get rid of a Pardew in a heartbeat for any manager who can convince me he is able to play the front footed football Pards apparently dreams of and I've never said otherwise. The worse the run of form Pardew goes on the less lenient I am and the less picky I become with a replacement. If he's on a good run of form Id obviously be less willing to just sack the cunt on the spot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 So right now...nobody lined up, just have to roll the dice with Ashley's appointment, do you want him sacked? Every Newcastle fan would have him sacked if we knew this exciting football manager was coming in to replace him, that's common sense. A lot on here have wanted him sacked regardless of any wins and happy to roll the dice on his successor, but are you now in that position or are you sticking with your opinion of last week which was i don't want him sacked on the spot anymore? He was in good form when you said that, but now he's had 3 straight losses...you might want him gone now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 So right now...nobody lined up, just have to roll the dice with Ashley's appointment, do you want him sacked? Every Newcastle fan would have him sacked if we knew this exciting football manager was coming in to replace him, that's common sense. A lot on here have wanted him sacked regardless of any wins and happy to roll the dice on his successor, but are you now in that position or are you sticking with your opinion of last week which was i don't want him sacked on the spot anymore? He was in good form when you said that, but now he's had 3 straight losses...you might want him gone now? Hell yeah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Interpolic Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 9.19 - Brett bumps the Alan Pardew thread so he's got something to do with his day. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dontooner Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Imo Shola = Pardew Can't wait to get rid. We need better judgement from the management but we have clowns in charge ... So what so you do when you have a Moron as a boss, not only tortures you at work and hires follow monkeys to lead you ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrettNUFC Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 9.19 - Brett bumps the Alan Pardew thread so he's got something to do with his day. Bump...I'll let you go at 6 Naaaaaaaa, i'm off to watch a film now. Don't know what, like Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interpolic Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'd sack him btw, hate his face. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NG32 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'd put him in a sack and drown him like a cat. Edit: Disclaimer. I would never ever hurt any animal. But would happily do Pardew in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Well, the gamble can be summarised as follows for me: a) Sack him, and risk uncertainty as to whether the replacement will be better or worse b) Don't sack him, and confirm with certainty we will actively try to avoid Europe and winning trophies (and play a thoroughly boring brand of football in the process) I'd roll the dice every fucking time and I've wanted him gone before he got here Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest reefatoon Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 All this stability shite is as boring as fuck. Needs spiced up, was much more fun having a new manager every other season. Even better, drop all the managers names in a hat in the summer and get each club to randomly pick one. Would be much more fun. Stability is shit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 We'd end up with Martin Allen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Nah, of course I'd rather stick with the League 1 manager that's actively talking the club down at any given opportunity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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