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Irish Magpie Posted October 30 Share Posted October 30 Good article from the Athletic last year, but modified for the present. I guess the only question now is will the general malaise at Old Trafford be enough of a millstone around this guys neck. Spoiler There is often a quiet buzz that surrounds up-and-coming managers as they establish their reputation away from the spotlight. For Ruben Amorim, however, it has been a siren alerting the football world to his coaching qualities. After a second title win in four years with Sporting Lisbon last season, the noise around him reached a crescendo. Now Manchester United have come calling and they are working on a deal to bring him to Old Trafford. The 39-year-old has returned Sporting to the top of the Portuguese food chain, and they are showing few signs of moving. Nine wins from their opening nine league games have kept them at the summit, with a perfect start during which they have scored 30 goals and conceded just two. Amorim was linked with a move to the Premier League for most of last season, with Liverpool and West Ham United those most closely connected, and The Athletic reported in April that he travelled to the UK to meet representatives of the London club. There are plenty is reasons why he has been so highly coveted. Here is why… Having only begun his coaching career at third-division Casa Pia in 2018, a move to Braga’s B team lasted three months before he was thrust into their first-team dugout in January 2020. After a hugely successful stint during which he won 10 of his 13 games, Amorim was poached that March by Sporting, who were looking for their fifth manager (not including caretakers) in less than two years. A fourth-placed finish in 2019-20 was followed up by the club’s first league title for 19 years in his maiden full season. He was only 36. Sporting have also won two Taca da Liga (Portuguese League Cup) trophies under Amorim, but the most impressive return has been their return to domestic dominance after years of standing still. This is highlighted by Sporting’s ClubElo rating, a measure of team strength that allocates points for every result, weighted by the quality of the opposition faced. After a difficult start to his tenure, Amorim has guided Sporting to their strongest status in European football for over a decade. Amorim has shown his desire to bring young talent into the first team — including Goncalo Inacio, Matheus Nunes, Nuno Mendes and Ousmane Diomande — and has improved the team’s quality with the resources at his disposal. Bruno Fernandes moved to Manchester United a little over a month before Amorim’s appointment, but Mendes (to Paris Saint-Germain), Nunes (Wolverhampton Wanderers), Pedro Porro (Tottenham Hotspur), Manuel Ugarte (also to PSG) and Joao Palhinha (Fulham) are among the talented players whom Amorim has improved before being sold for high fees. Amorim’s stylistic approach has remained unchanged throughout and that consistency has been the foundation for their success. So, what is his style of play? On paper, Amorim’s Sporting play a 3-4-3 formation — or more specifically, a 3-4-2-1 — based on high possession, flexible attacking approaches and a strong defensive foundation. In build-up, they will often stagger their midfielders across different lines to help with progression through the centre of the pitch, keeping the wing-backs high and wide to stretch the opposition’s back line. Ahead of them, their two attacking midfielders will occupy the half-spaces to stay close to the central striker. When playing out from the back, Amorim will often ask his players to create a 4-2-2-2 structure, as shown last season with former central centre-back Sebastian Coates joining the midfield line to create better passing angles to eventually work the ball wide and progress up the field. That fluidity in the build-up is supported by the numbers from last season when looking at Sporting’s playstyle wheel, which outlines how a team plays compared with Europe’s top seven domestic leagues. Amorim’s rotational setup will often ensure that Sporting can progress without disruption, as shown by their ‘Press resistance’ metric (98 out of 99), which highlights the volume of touches per opposition tackle in the first two-thirds of the pitch. A higher volume denotes a greater ability to play out from the back, and only Manchester City and Inter Milan averaged more than Sporting’s 74.9 touches per opposition tackle in 2023-24. In settled possession, Amorim’s side can vary their progression through the thirds with intricate short passes or direct balls to their pitch-stretching wing-backs. Their ‘Circulate’ rating (60 out of 99) may not seem reflective of a possession-dominant side in the context of Europe’s top leagues, but it speaks to the variety of Sporting’s play, where they are as likely to progress the ball quickly via passes into the channel as to recycle possession across the pitch. This also explains Sporting’s ‘Patient attack’ score. A rating of 60 out of 99 here might suggest a confused attacking approach, but that flexibility to slow down the game or speed it up is a huge weapon in their armoury. For example, no team registered more build-up attacks (defined as open-play sequences containing 10-plus passes that end in a shot or touch in the penalty box) in the Primeira Liga last season than Sporting’s 126. On the other side of the coin, no team in the division logged more direct attacks (open-play sequences starting inside a team’s own half that move towards the opposition’s goal by 50 per cent and end in a shot or a touch in the 18-yard box) than their 74. Try to pin Sporting down at your peril — they have the tools to wriggle out of most situations. In contrast to such neat, intricate play, Amorim moved to a more direct attacking style last season after the arrival of 6ft 2in (187cm) human battering ram Gyokeres, who thrives on runs into the channel to bully opposition defenders and score himself. When Gyokeres is not carrying the goalscoring burden himself, those channel runs still go to good use as he provides for others. Against Uniao Leiria in February, it is a similar pattern with a channel ball played by Santos and Gyokeres driving forward — only this time, he cuts the ball back to an oncoming Goncalves. If you need further evidence for this one, just run the tape on Sporting’s goals against Benfica, Estoril (twice) and Porto last season. Only Bayern Munich’s Harry Kane (36 goals and eight assists) and PSV Eindhoven’s Luuk de Jong (29 goals and 15 assists) had more goal involvements last season than Gyokeres (29 goals and 10 assists) across Europe’s top seven leagues. It helps to have such a dominant centre-forward spearheading your team, but Amorim has intelligently found the best way to maximise the qualities of the players he has. Given Gyokeres’ strong penalty-box presence, Sporting do not shy away from getting the ball into wide areas and playing teasing crosses for him to attack. These crosses do not frequently come from their wing-backs — who keep the width to stretch the opposition — but will commonly arise from their attacking midfielders operating in the half-spaces. Those changes to Sporting’s ‘Patient attack’ and ‘Circulate’ metrics last season are made all the more stark when comparing them to the previous season’s figures. As you can see below, Amorim has tweaked the style to make Sporting more potent than ever under his leadership. Out of possession, Amorim’s side boasted one of the meanest defensive records on the whole continent last season (‘Chance prevention’, 98 out of 99). Only Arsenal and Feyenoord had a lower non-penalty expected goals (xG) conceded than Sporting’s 0.78 per 90 minutes across Europe’s top seven leagues. Principally, this is down to their compact shape in a 5-2-3 or 5-4-1 block, forcing opponents to play around their defensive structure and rarely through it. Sporting having a five-man defensive line means you will often see a wide centre-back stepping out to press the opposition forward or attacking midfielder, confident he has the protection of the team-mates behind him. As a collective, Amorim asks his players to press high up the pitch (‘Intensity’, 95 out of 99) and squeeze the play by often bringing his centre-backs to the halfway line (‘High line’, 83 out of 99). Only rivals Benfica logged more shot-ending ‘high turnovers’ (defined as regains 40 metres or fewer from the opponent’s goals) than Sporting’s 58 in the Primeira Liga last season. Having a robust, defensively aware midfield destroyer has been a hallmark of Amorim’s side, previously Palhinha and Ugarte and now 25-year-old Denmark international Hjulmand. The ability to cover wide spaces, break up the play, and hoover up loose balls places a big demand on Amorim’s pair in midfield, and with Sporting’s wing-backs encouraged to stay high and wide, the space for the opposition can often be in the channels when counter-attacking. Take this example, from November’s game against Estrela Amadora. As the away side turn over possession, wing-backs Santos and Ricardo Esgaio (in white) are too high up the field, with space exposed on the flanks. The midfield duo of Hjulmand and Braganca are too narrow to cover the width of the pitch on their own, which forces Reis to pull out to the touchline and increase the gaps between the three centre-backs — Estrela would score from this attacking phase. A similar example can be seen against Farense a few days earlier, where left centre-back Inacio mistimes his challenge to leave forward Rui Costa driving towards goal. With Santos high on the left wing, the space to be exploited is in the wide area once again, and Farense claw a goal back. It is a tactical frailty in an otherwise powerful machine crafted by Amorim. The natural line of thought is how much this structural weakness could be exposed in a more competitive Premier League. Even accounting for the inequality among many of the Primeira Liga teams, a side who can statistically boast one of the best attacks and best defence across Europe’s top seven leagues shows that their manager is having some sort of positive effect. A charismatic leader known for fielding young talent, improving individual player performance and winning titles — you can understand why Manchester United would want him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mag3.14 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 11 minutes ago, Groundhog63 said: Think they've got their Bruno's confused Wor Bruno 423Km covered; theirs 390Km Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groundhog63 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 1 minute ago, Mag3.14 said: Think they've got their Bruno's confused Wor Bruno 423Km covered; theirs 390Km It's the comment that nails it, though 🤔😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronson333 Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopeandGlory Posted November 5 Share Posted November 5 Whilst Dan Ashworth is a disgraceful human being who deserves public humiliation, I do love the expectation that DoFs and Managers have to have an impossibly perfect transfer record in football. I don’t think anyone has ever achieved that feat, but it’s always how their abilities are assessed as a baseline. One bad judgement? You’ll never hear the end of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 I can't wait to see this current crop of Man Utd mercenaries trying to figure out the 3 4 3 formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fak Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 8 hours ago, PopeandGlory said: Whilst Dan Ashworth is a disgraceful human being who deserves public humiliation, I do love the expectation that DoFs and Managers have to have an impossibly perfect transfer record in football. I don’t think anyone has ever achieved that feat, but it’s always how their abilities are assessed as a baseline. One bad judgement? You’ll never hear the end of it. Welcome to the forum Dan Ashworth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Collage Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 Gyökeres nailed on for Man U now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted November 6 Share Posted November 6 18 minutes ago, Collage said: Gyökeres nailed on for Man U now? Unlikely I think, they have two expensive strikers already and he will cost a fortune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Happy Amorim Day @TheDarkKnight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanji Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 @Froggy what is your 11 under the new gaffa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Is this not "tell Ruud to FUCK OFF day" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Just now, Kanji said: @Froggy what is your 11 under the new gaffa? Your guess is as good as mine to be honest. Onana Yoro (Maguire) De Ligt (Lindelof) Martinez (Evans) Mazraroui (Dalot) Ugarte (Casemiro) Mainoo (Eriksen) Shaw (Garnacho) Amad (Rashford) Fernandes (Mount) Hojlund (Zirkzee) Something like that maybe when they're all fit? Who knows. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 11 minutes ago, Ben said: Is this not "tell Ruud to FUCK OFF day" ? Hopefully. Keeping someone like Ruud around because the players like him would be a bad start IMO. Love the guy but this needs to be Amorim's team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 20 minutes ago, Froggy said: Your guess is as good as mine to be honest. Onana Yoro (Maguire) De Ligt (Lindelof) Martinez (Evans) Mazraroui (Dalot) Ugarte (Casemiro) Mainoo (Eriksen) Shaw (Garnacho) Amad (Rashford) Fernandes (Mount) Hojlund (Zirkzee) Something like that maybe when they're all fit? Who knows. TBF I'm looking forward to see that formation in the EPL, might get a few big losses early doors, it will be interesting to see how Rashford plays Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 33 minutes ago, Ben said: it will be interesting to see how Rashford plays Hopefully he doesn't. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erikse Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 (edited) On 06/11/2024 at 00:10, PopeandGlory said: Whilst Dan Ashworth is a disgraceful human being who deserves public humiliation, I do love the expectation that DoFs and Managers have to have an impossibly perfect transfer record in football. I don’t think anyone has ever achieved that feat, but it’s always how their abilities are assessed as a baseline. One bad judgement? You’ll never hear the end of it. He might have had something to do with the Hall transfer. That's all the credit I'm willing to give him. Even that is hard to tell from the outside. Edited November 11 by Erikse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 On 05/11/2024 at 23:10, PopeandGlory said: Whilst Dan Ashworth is a disgraceful human being who deserves public humiliation, I do love the expectation that DoFs and Managers have to have an impossibly perfect transfer record in football. I don’t think anyone has ever achieved that feat, but it’s always how their abilities are assessed as a baseline. One bad judgement? You’ll never hear the end of it. Why is he? because a bigger club, closer to home with more resources offered him a job and he decided to embark on a new career move? Happens everyday in business, football is a business. Really don't get the hate whatsoever Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimbo Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Why is he? because a bigger club, closer to home with more resources offered him a job and he decided to embark on a new career move? Happens everyday in business, football is a business. Really don't get the hate whatsoever Because he spent £45m on Gordon and gave him a 3 year contract, wanted to sell Joelinton, and wanted Gary Neville as England manager. Disgrace and stealing a living INO. Edited November 11 by Kimbo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CallumG6 Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 1 hour ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Why is he? because a bigger club, closer to home with more resources offered him a job and he decided to embark on a new career move? Happens everyday in business, football is a business. Really don't get the hate whatsoever Also I think it’s the manner in which he left as well. Didn’t exactly cover himself in glory or professionalism despite reasonable motivations for wanting to move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 5 hours ago, Froggy said: Hopefully. Keeping someone like Ruud around because the players like him would be a bad start IMO. Love the guy but this needs to be Amorim's team. Confirmed. Amorim only wants to work with own staff. Big fan of that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted November 11 Share Posted November 11 Read someone called Hojlund for Hojlocaust and I can't get it out of my head Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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