Tiresias Posted yesterday at 11:14 Share Posted yesterday at 11:14 Can't believe they haven't even discussed changing psr to end the encouraging of sales of home grown players. Regardless of the rest of it being a mess it's disgraceful to the fans to see all of 'their own' being shipped off for this reason. The league should be encouraging clubs to play more homegrown players... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiaia Posted yesterday at 14:17 Share Posted yesterday at 14:17 3 hours ago, Tiresias said: Can't believe they haven't even discussed changing psr to end the encouraging of sales of home grown players. Regardless of the rest of it being a mess it's disgraceful to the fans to see all of 'their own' being shipped off for this reason. The league should be encouraging clubs to play more homegrown players... Yeah I think there should be a rule of 3 homegrown players in a match day squad. Manu in their glory years always had a good pool of British players. Hardly any now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 14:18 Share Posted yesterday at 14:18 3 hours ago, Guybrush said: Why does it seem like Man U are determined to sell Mainoo? He's only 20, English international, homegrown. I haven't seen him play a great deal, but there was some hype about him earlier on. What's gaan on? Because he's stalling on a new contract and asking for £180,000 a week. He's currently on £25,000 a week. I don't know what he thinks he's done to deserve anywhere near that sort of money. I don't want any of these youngsters to go, but at the same time I'm happy for them to be sold if they overvalue their worth. It'll be a big PSR boon if he does leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guybrush Posted yesterday at 14:40 Share Posted yesterday at 14:40 20 minutes ago, Froggy said: Because he's stalling on a new contract and asking for £180,000 a week. He's currently on £25,000 a week. I don't know what he thinks he's done to deserve anywhere near that sort of money. I don't want any of these youngsters to go, but at the same time I'm happy for them to be sold if they overvalue their worth. It'll be a big PSR boon if he does leave. That is a crazy increase to ask for . He doesn't even start every game, right? Suppose with PSR it's win win if he stays or goes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conjo Posted yesterday at 14:41 Share Posted yesterday at 14:41 They'll end up bending over and paying him £180k, without this mythical CL/no CL clause. He'll continue having these muscle injuries, playing on and off with the odd glimpse of promise until he's 26 suddenly realizing he isn't 20 anymore and wonder wtf happened. Then he'll move to west ham on a free to maintain his wages and retire at 33. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted yesterday at 15:01 Share Posted yesterday at 15:01 20 minutes ago, Guybrush said: That is a crazy increase to ask for . He doesn't even start every game, right? Suppose with PSR it's win win if he stays or goes. Increase isnt crazy, they could have had him for a lot less before the euros, they chose not to. They knew the risks, now they want to pay what he wanted previously. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero Posted yesterday at 15:15 Share Posted yesterday at 15:15 Mainoo case is quite complicated. I mean, no matter what, he was the starting eleven for England at Euro, at such a young age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 15:16 Share Posted yesterday at 15:16 12 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: Increase isnt crazy, they could have had him for a lot less before the euros, they chose not to. They knew the risks, now they want to pay what he wanted previously. Not sure what this is all about but it's very wrong. We signed him to a new deal the year before the Euros. He's contracted until 2027 and the club have the option of a further year. We hold the cards. He can either sign a reasonable contract extension or he can leave. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted yesterday at 15:17 Share Posted yesterday at 15:17 Just now, Froggy said: Not sure what this is all about but it's very wrong. We signed him to a new deal the year before the Euros. He's contracted until 2027 and the club have the option of a further year. We hold the cards. He can either sign a reasonable contract extension or he can leave. I can categorically promise you it isnt and that his agent was in munich a couple of weeks ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theregulars Posted yesterday at 15:29 Share Posted yesterday at 15:29 4 hours ago, WilliamPS said: PSR. Same reason Anderson was sold, homegrown players are all upside in PSR calcs. Although perhaps Amorim also feels he doesn’t suit their system (who does tbf) Not sure Amorim suits his own system Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted yesterday at 15:30 Share Posted yesterday at 15:30 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Because he's stalling on a new contract and asking for £180,000 a week. He's currently on £25,000 a week. I don't know what he thinks he's done to deserve anywhere near that sort of money. I don't want any of these youngsters to go, but at the same time I'm happy for them to be sold if they overvalue their worth. It'll be a big PSR boon if he does leave. Not saying it’s a quote from you, but the amount of Man U fans claiming him as most they do with all their young stars as the second coming of Christ, you can see why they’d think these wages are acceptable to ask for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted yesterday at 15:42 Share Posted yesterday at 15:42 1 hour ago, Froggy said: Because he's stalling on a new contract and asking for £180,000 a week. He's currently on £25,000 a week. I don't know what he thinks he's done to deserve anywhere near that sort of money. I don't want any of these youngsters to go, but at the same time I'm happy for them to be sold if they overvalue their worth. It'll be a big PSR boon if he does leave. Love Froggy and his input but given he seems to know every intricate detail of all the financial deals, wages, pay offs, etc with Manu either, a) he’s speculating or quoting someone who’s widely speculating or, b) Manu is possibly one of the leakiest clubs in the world. No one can simply look ‘at the published expenditure’ and then accurately workout what each individual player is earning. And if during negotiations players requests are leaked to the press at every juncture the club is gonna become a pariah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 15:45 Share Posted yesterday at 15:45 1 minute ago, Lotus said: Love Froggy and his input but given he seems to know every intricate detail of all the financial deals, wages, pay offs, etc with Manu either, a) he’s speculating or quoting someone who’s widely speculating or, b) Manu is possibly one of the leakiest clubs in the world. No one can simply look ‘at the published expenditure’ and then accurately workout what each individual player is earning. And if during negotiations players requests are leaked to the press at every juncture the club is gonna become a pariah. It's all from strong sources, and yes we are one of the leakiest clubs in the world. Obviously you can't work out each individual wage from the entire wage expenditure, but it's fairly easy to piece together when there are numerous reports from tier 1 sources about what each players wage is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froggy Posted yesterday at 15:47 Share Posted yesterday at 15:47 29 minutes ago, Tonalis Bookie said: I can categorically promise you it isnt and that his agent was in munich a couple of weeks ago The interest from Bayern is well documented. That wasn't what I meant. We signed him to a long term deal before the Euros. He's with us another three years should we want it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotus Posted yesterday at 16:27 Share Posted yesterday at 16:27 41 minutes ago, Froggy said: It's all from strong sources, and yes we are one of the leakiest clubs in the world. Obviously you can't work out each individual wage from the entire wage expenditure, but it's fairly easy to piece together when there are numerous reports from tier 1 sources about what each players wage is. That must near on untenable for everyone involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted yesterday at 18:02 Share Posted yesterday at 18:02 3 hours ago, Froggy said: Because he's stalling on a new contract and asking for £180,000 a week. He's currently on £25,000 a week. I don't know what he thinks he's done to deserve anywhere near that sort of money. I don't want any of these youngsters to go, but at the same time I'm happy for them to be sold if they overvalue their worth. It'll be a big PSR boon if he does leave. Would love to take Mainoo off your hands/wage bill. For what it is worth; big future ahead if handled correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 13 hours ago, Coffee_Johnny said: Would love to take Mainoo off your hands/wage bill. For what it is worth; big future ahead if handled correctly. Chelsea-bound. Another young footballer for Creepy Todd Boehly and Uncle Enzo to misuse and abuse. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonalis Bookie Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 23 hours ago, Froggy said: The interest from Bayern is well documented. That wasn't what I meant. We signed him to a long term deal before the Euros. He's with us another three years should we want it. Every contract has a renegotiation clause for milestones. He hit multiple ones at an incredible rate and rightly wanted what everyone else gets. His number was 60k less and would have averted another milestone at the Euros. Whether he's worth it is the debate but his right to ask for it and also expect it isn't. Especially when at the time a player in the position sitting on the bench was on around 60% more and who he was essentially replacing. He uses Stellar and Dave Lockwood so I cant see how MUFC win this one. Personally Mainoo on 180 or going and plunging back into a market for a player with no love for the club on the same wages seems silly, PSR really is killing everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Crimson Cardigan Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Hopefully there’s upside in either scenario. Fernandes stays and they have less to spend, or they lose their talisman, the guy who has singled handedly bailed them out again and again and one of their only leaders. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pablo123 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, The Butcher said: Would be interesting to see who they got to replace him, if he does go. Would be a huge loss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KennyUtd Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Pablo123 said: Would be interesting to see who they got to replace him, if he does go. Would be a huge loss. Longstaff currently packing his bags. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Crimson Cardigan said: Hopefully there’s upside in either scenario. Fernandes stays and they have less to spend, or they lose their talisman, the guy who has singled handedly bailed them out again and again and one of their only leaders. It will be a huge loss for them and I’m looking forward to see how they waste the money on Ugarte and Zirkzee kind of signings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HayDen Traces Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 27 minutes ago, SweMag said: It will be a huge loss for them and I’m looking forward to see how they waste the money on Ugarte and Zirkzee kind of signings. Or Mbeumo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Displayname Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago I just hope noone comes in with a foolish offer on Garnacho and that they continue being stuck with Sancho/Rashford/Anthony etc. Losing Fernandes wont be positive for them in the short term, even if they get some money to invest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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